Wednesday, November 3, 2010

QE2 will start small and end massive

Citi Says QE2 Would Be End-Game For The USD

A second round of QE will likely put sharp downward pressure on the USD, to some degree versus the euro and other G10 currencies, with potential for a broader USD sell-off

Posted by sold 2 rent 1 @ 10:28 AM (1838 views)
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33 thoughts on “QE2 will start small and end massive

  • general congreve says:

    But don’t QE2 and the markets will collapse. Oh dear, what a Sophie’s Choice for poor Benron.

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  • the government in the USA are slowly screwing themselves, from too strict immigration laws for workers and investors to killing the dollar to subsidising food.

    I can see an exodus of large companies leaving the states soon.

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  • general congreve
    “But don’t QE2 and the markets will collapse. Oh dear, what a Sophie’s Choice for poor Benron”

    But there is no choice if you really think about. So you can see that this QE2 will start slowly and continue to grow and grow into 2011 with all nations joining in with a Beggar thy Neighbour attitude until we hit the “Event Horizon” – the end of fiat money. Sounds crazy? Absolutely. Could it happen? You better believe it.

    I haven’t posted for a while but today is a significant day.

    The consciousness change cycle that started back in 1999 came to a close yesterday.
    This consciousness change had many different features but the 2 most important ones were:

    -Tracking the rise of internet/technology; from dial-up to high speed broadband and all the functionality that the extra speed brought
    -Tracking the rise of fear/war/crisis; including 9/11, 7/7, wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, War on Terror, financial crisis 2007-present.

    From today Calleman’s model is now in the final cycle where in the next 360 days we will experience a rate of change that is 20 times faster than the last 11 years. It will be a slow start; just as it took most people until 2005 (or even 2008) to realize that we were entering a new era. By next spring we should see some pretty big changes coming down the line and as we zoom into the summer that change should accelerate.

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  • This should get the thread going!!!

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  • Citi most definitely do not say QE 2 would be end game for the USD. Zero Hedge meanwhile seems determined to hyperinflate their credibilty by quantatively easing via self-parody their capacity for discriminating thought.

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  • 2. mark said…”the government in the USA are slowly screwing themselves,”

    No mark, look on the other side of the coin.

    This is where so many citizens get foxed.

    Is it now making more sense. Can you now see where it is going. Take your time and look with fresh eyes.

    The answer has to come from yourself, after you have seen all.

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  • BTW, I bought a house. This missus is chuffed to bits after waiting 9 years.
    I made enough with gold/silver and cashed in most of it.
    Although the gold mania has yet to get going as fiat money devalues to nothing, even gold will end up worthless on the other side of the event horizon.

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  • 3. sold 2 rent 1

    I remember some time back talking about a cashless society and somebody called me nuts.

    Nobody with even the lowest level of conciousness can now deny that this is where we are being steered to.

    And the silly little game with the USDollar continues.

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  • The £ will simply devalue further, soon enough.

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  • Welcome back s2r1!!! – I see you have lost none of your propensity for the dramatic and controversial (and i mean that in a good way), Whatever the case we will find out soon enough – a spike and then a reversal wouldnt be much of a surprise and/or a damp squib.

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  • general congreve says:

    @3 – Totally with you, there is no choice. I do hope you’re prediction of the wheels coming off in the next year is true. Would like to win big before my 40th so I can kick back and enjoy my winnings a little before WW3 kicks off.

    @6 – Interested why you think gold will become worthless. It hasn’t lost real value (last 40 years aside) in it’s entire history as a commodity/currency. Are you suggesting a return to lifestyle so stone age that it won’t have value? Or do you think this whole mess will blow up into WW3 and we’ll all be dead anyway? You’ve just bought a house, so I guess you’re planning on living a little longer than the event horizon? Personally I’m planning on things getting very painful economically, fiat currencies being debased to oblivion and a new, sounder monetary regime springing up to replace the old order.

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  • welcome back s2r1, good to have your comments flowing on this site again…I’m off to see Ian Baillie on ‘2012: Breaking the Chains of Our Paradigm Prison’ tommorow, should be interesting..Enjoy your new house..

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  • general congreve,

    Here are your answers – be warned they are deep.

    Q: “Would like to win big before my 40th so I can kick back and enjoy my winnings a little before WW3 kicks off”

    A: You might have this opportunity as maybe we will have the “colloidal silver” mania 6-9 months before the monatomic gold (MG) mania. If silver hits $26.90 then corrects to $20, then buy, buy, buy as $200 could be on the cards (but not for long though). Haiti and Pakistan are ripe for epidemics and the colloidal silver manufacturers might seize the opportunity in front of the mass media who love to film carnage.

    Q: “Interested why you think gold will become worthless”

    A: Remember the event horizon isn’t just an end-of-money event. It is the event horizon to the conscious singularity; which by definition is not possible to see beyond. (Read about Black hole singularities and note the similarity). IMHO an end-of-money event could quite easily be linked in with a MG mania, whereby people are taking MG to transcend to a higher level of consciousness only to find out it has been the biggest setup – ever.

    Read: Mono Atomic Gold -Think Twice
    http://educate-yourself.org/cn/monoatomicgoldthinktwice15aug05.shtml

    Q: “You’ve just bought a house, so I guess you’re planning on living a little longer than the event horizon”

    A: I’ve bought a house because I am living in this world and that’s what people do. However it might be the case that I will have to give it up when the consciousness singularity happens? What do I mean by give it up? As quantum physicists are already suggesting, our entire physical world is just our mind/consciousness decoding vibrations/waves that are emanating from the centre of our galaxy. Bruce Cathie in his books claims to have unified Einstein’s equation (E=MC2) and can express E as a function of light, or M as a function of light. In other words our physical reality is just a function of light waves that we decode.
    But that leads to the question of what is the true nature of reality; I am sure that is what the consciousness singularity is all about.

    As techieman said, not long now.

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  • Welcome Back S2R1 (or should that be Bought 1 Not 2 Rent 1) B1N2R1 ?

    Sold my Gold and Silver aswell expecting a bit of a reversal which hasn’t happened yet.

    That could be a mistake depending what happens today, but locking in a bit of profit is never a bad thing I guess, if only to make up for all that lost interest.

    Not sure I’m ready to buy just yet as all I can see is downside to property prices no matter how much they print as I can’t see it working it’s way through to wages on any great scale yet.

    No doubt you have all bases covered with whatever you have bought though.

    Is Mrs. B1N2R1 going to allow you a bunker in the grounds ? LOL.

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  • happy mondays,

    Looks like a cozy venue in a scout centre and then beers in the pub afterwards.
    I saw David Icke do a 9 hour marathon talk this summer. He got a standing ovation from the 2,500 crowd at the end.

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  • str 2007,

    “Is Mrs. B1N2R1 going to allow you a bunker in the grounds ? LOL”
    I may be bonkers but bunkers are for golf courses only.

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  • It seems hard to believe the FED will live up to all that’s expected of it today, after all the speculation we’ve had. So expect an upturn in the USD for now.

    As for tomorrow, just remember that the USD has lost 95% of its value since 1913. There is no reason to think that trend will be reversed.

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  • Tomgone2toronto says:

    Having sold up in mid-2005, spousal encouragement lead me to buy again in early 2006. And it didn’t work out too badly, as I held it through the recent reflation, before cashing in again in May 2010, at around 95% of 2007 peak price. I relocated with my family to Toronto this summer to continue to work in big real estate development projects. The issue for me now is $CAN vs GBP and moving cash over…..and then whether to buy here. Canadian has historically been closely linked to US (which is surely downward) but GBP is probably too. Gut instinct says that US will move first, and then Pound over time as the austerity..and then QE2 kicks in.

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  • “Bruce Cathie (Born in New Zealand in 1930) is a retired airline pilot who has written seven books related to flying saucers and a “World energy grid”. His central thesis is that the laws of mathematics describe a grid-like pattern on the earth that powers flying saucers and controls the dates and places where nuclear bombs can function.”… combined with above comments on e=mc^2… ignorance is creative bliss.

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  • sibley's b'stard child says:

    Wait Rumble, you’re not suggesting…that..it’s all poppycock?

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  • “However it might be the case that I will have to give it up when the consciousness singularity happens? What do I mean by give it up? As quantum physicists are already suggesting, our entire physical world is just our mind/consciousness decoding vibrations/waves that are emanating from the centre of our galaxy. Bruce Cathie in his books claims to have unified Einstein’s equation (E=MC2) and can express E as a function of light, or M as a function of light. In other words our physical reality is just a function of light waves that we decode.
    But that leads to the question of what is the true nature of reality; I am sure that is what the consciousness singularity is all about.”

    I think I’m getting it – Arthur C. Clarke’s “Childhoods End”. We are going to be led into a utopian future by advanced reptilians.

    Am I warm?

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  • S2R1

    Good answer.

    I was only joking and not disrespecting your deep research.

    I do find it quite fascinating and who knows ?

    Always keep an open mind I say, especially when it’s as tiny as mine.

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  • S2R1 – you should get to know Mark – the 2 of you seem to converse on the same level. He will at some point claim that Bruce Cathie is probably scrounging immigrant scum on benefits but don’t worry, he has Tourette’s.

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  • “Wait Rumble, you’re not suggesting…that..it’s all poppycock?”

    Just appreciating the wonderful creative freedom we have when unconstrained by knowledge.

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  • general congreve says:

    @11 – OK, heard of colloidal silver, but not the Mono Atomic Gold. Gave it a read and to be honest I think I’ll stick to economics.. But, if you are right my gold stash really will enrich me beyond my wildest dreams!

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  • 22. general congreve.

    Money, yes. Enrichment comes from not depending on that money or anything else.

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  • I found this link

    Michio Kaku (Professor of Theoretical Physics) confirms David Icke was right
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xv2yMY4DCg

    This video compares what Icke said about vibrations and the nature of reality in the early 1990s to what Michio Kaku is saying now,

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  • sibley's b'stard child says:

    Meh, the only difference between a cult and organised religion is the number of followers.

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  • I am posting this here for the people who insult me on a regular basis, please read it.

    it amazes me how the people who insult others on this site never post anything of real interest.

    It is a real shame this website has become home to the idiots who thrive in life from insulting others.

    So far it appears at least 5 people probably the same person loves to insult my posts and libel me, any further insults to me personally will be passed to my lawyers, after all the evidence is on here

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  • “Your honour, I was on the internet, and somebody insulted me!” Now there’s good use of taxes.

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  • “This video compares what Icke said about vibrations and the nature of reality in the early 1990s to what Michio Kaku is saying now”

    Well, it doesn’t really, does it. Icke, in 1991, talks about frequencies, as people have been doing since the late 1800s, nothing new there, then before he starts on whatever undoubtedly nonsense theory of his, it cuts to Kaku talking about frequencies, as people have been doing since the late 1800s, nothing new there, and no Icke theory confirmed, they simply used the same metaphor, then it cuts to an older Icke talking like an ignoramus on acid. How can you not see that nothing was confirmed there? Seriously, a first year open university physics course should clear up a few things.

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  • Mark @25 LOL

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  • Long time reader 1st time poster (I think…damn beer)
    OK so first post may be of no value but this is the internet…who gives a…?!
    Mark @25: generally enjoy reading your posts, so I dearly hope that’s a joke that failed to make it through in the written word. If not…well I thought I’d already read the most bonkers post on this thread before yours appeared.
    S2R1B1ForTheMisssus….your as crazy as a religionist, but I love the self-depracating style, and heck, it’d take a bit of effort to show whether it’s nonsense. I even agreee in the sense that we only experience existence through the scale we live at, a bit like looking at the EM spectrum through a burka. Top work, ol’ horse.
    OK, some predictions to valadate (or otherwise) my inane, drunken first post.
    House prices to fall 30% min. over next 5 years. Nominal.
    Gold to rise further in nominal terms from now by 2013.
    UK ecomony (GDP)…no freaking idea. Bigger by 2015?
    Statement of interest…no house (renter), 50% savings cash, 50% gold/silver.

    Techieman…best poster of of the lot here imho, thouroughly enjoy reading your thoughts, keep it coming

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