Friday, October 1, 2010

Red Ed draws up housing plans

Ed Miliband: ‘make social housing desirable for all’

New Labour leader Ed Miliband is considering how to make social housing a tenure of choice as part of his vision for Labour policy. Mr Miliband also said the Labour Party had become ‘stuck with a dogma that councils should not be allowed to build houses’ and pledged to give them greater freedom to borrow, in a statement on housing written for the Labour Housing Group during his campaign. The document also puts a clear divide between Mr Miliband and the current government on planning. While the coalition has scrapped regional spatial strategies and central targets, Mr Miliband states he wants to look at ‘more aggressive targets for social housing in property development’. It adds that this represents ‘a complete surrender to the vested interests which prevent new builds’.

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12 thoughts on “Red Ed draws up housing plans

  • So first Labour destroy the dreams and aspiration sof generations of people who want to get onto the ladder.
    Ignoring anyone who questions their policies for over a decade.
    They Lie and spin.
    And now they attempt to pass the blame for for generations being priced out of housing, onto the present coalition, without ever admitting the pain and havoc they have caused.

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  • Good idea…but where is Ed living now… let’s go and build some new social housing in his back yards and see what he says. If he says yes and stays there after the houses are built and tenants moved in (some decent, some aren’t) , then I will take him seriously.

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  • mark wadsworth says:

    And who was in power for the last 13 years and was merrily flogging off Council Housing?

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  • Mark W,
    That’s the whole point. Milliband Jr is trying to make a clear difference between himself and “old new Labour”. At the last election we had the false choice between Heir-to-Blair Cameron and Heir-to-Blair Gordon. I personally was frustrated and annoyed that Cameron was so light on policy and so heavy on spin. For better or worse, Red Ed is defining his position and making it clear what he, and new new Labour, stand for.

    Easybetman,
    Chavs and pikeys have to live somewhere. Nobody wants them as neighbours; but in a fair society they have to live somewhere. Where do you think they should go?

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  • mark wadsworth says:

    Drewster; “Where do you think they should go?” That’s easy! ‘Not in my back yard!’

    That said, I am a tenant and a taxpayer and I say ‘Hooray for more social housing!’ In fact I say ‘Hooray for more housing!’ generally, it’s all good.

    Cue NickM: “So that means you won’t be happy until the last field is concreted over?”

    Cue Uncle Tom: “Selling off council housing was a brilliant policy of Thatcher because it helped millions onto the property ladder”

    Cue Mr G: “I worked my way up from the shop floor, I don’t see why anybody should be given an easy ride.”

    Cue hpwatcher: “It will just lead to hyperinflation.”

    And so on and so forth.

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  • Yes, chavs and pikeys have to go somewhere but I haven’t yet met anyone who will volunteer to have them in their back yard. Mixing social housing (known in my area as ‘anti-social housing’) with privately owned properties sounds like a great idea until you see the difficulties which social tenants cause. No one wants to buy houses which have built-in problem neighbours. Many tenants are fine but a substantial number have no idea how to behave and no interest in changing. They are born with a fingers-up-to-all attitude and a propensity to transform their homes into slums within a frightening small space of time. Somehow, we have to change the attitude of social tenants before things can work. However, having lived in Chavland for longer than I care to admit, I just don’t know how anyone begins. Personally I just want to get the hell out.

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  • Clive Goggins says:

    Red Ed huh? Wasnt so red when it came to paying his inheritance tax was he?

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  • general congreve says:

    @3 – Where do you think they should go?

    Having lived on an estate where 50% of the housing was social housing, and also having friends whose lives have been blighted by the tenants of social housing that was built (by govt. decree) on their estate, I fully back the good old-fashioned council estate.

    The idea of mixing small amounts of social housing into all new developments, just causes problems (vandalism, littering etc. – this is from experience) and resentment. Resentment by the social housing tenants at those that can afford their own homes and have nicer cars etc., and resentment by the owners who had to work hard and take out crippling mortgages to buy their property, just to see the neighbours sit on their @rse all day and get it for free.

    The idea that social housing tenants will be pulled up by their boot straps if mixed in with others is wrong, they just usually end up dragging the area and everyone else down with them.

    I’ve fully in favour of putting them all in ghettos. That goes for good and bad tenants, it’s up to the good ones to make their own way out, which they will if they want to join civil society badly enough.

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  • I agree, Congreve. I’m tired of hearing about ‘the fair society’. The real question is: fair for whom, exactly? Certainly not the well-behaved working families who struggle to buy a home only find themselves next door to problem people who are not constrained by anything as humdrum as working for a living. Trying to hold down a job and retain your sanity whilst being assailed by noise and nuisance is very stressful indeed. When Drewster writes that he’ll take Miliband seriously when he starts by building ‘social housing’ in his own backyard, he is making a very valid point. Generally politicians dismiss their own private lives as being irrelevant to the big picture when in fact what they do when their own families are on the line tells you everything you need to know about their real convictions. In the end Diane Abbott decided that a state school wasn’t quite the thing for her own son, although it was sure as hell good enough for other people’s children. I suspect Ed will always feel that somehow there is always a better place for social housing than right next to him.

    Yes indeed, bring back the council estate. At least the rest of us can avoid it.

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  • A little bit of satire from mark wadsworth there.

    I must admit I don’t know how many council houses were sold off under Labour (started by Cons of course). Figures?

    general congreve (Col Blimp?)

    Well, no one can deny the behaviour of a certain group of council house dwellers, though I wonder whether it is a relatively small minority, just as most crime is caused by a handful of people according to the police. The trouble is your attitude only ensures that the problem of an underclass will never be solved. Put them in ghettos? Or would you advocate the next step from there?

    Incidentally, I live in a very posh area. Tons of litter.

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  • @5 gc

    It’s a wonder that a one trick pony has the audacity to make a comment on mixes! Wonder where you got you’re one trick investment from? I hope, for your sake, that the ETF’s that you probably hold don’t go sour when all is out. It’s only paper.

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  • general congreve says:

    @6 – Yeah, I know it was a bit harsh, but when you’ve endured 2years of your gas meter box being kicked to pieces and your windows put through for a laugh, and then subsequently have your tenants move out cos a gang of yobs caused 2k worth of damage to their car in front of their very eyes, then perhaps you might want to let off a bit of steam about it too 😉

    @7 – ETF’s? Yeah I love paper promises me.

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