Friday, Dec 18, 2009

Perfectly timed so Israel can bomb Iran over Xmas so no one notices.

Yahoo News: Iraq official confirms Iran incursion in oil area

Blatant propaganda and lies, but you might want to buy some oil.

Posted by general congreve @ 03:38 PM (1597 views)
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1. general congreve said...

Latest update from Bloomberg, no photos, this is the headline:

"Iran Forces Occupy Iraqi Oil Well, Border Guard Says (Update1)"

'Border guard says'. Stop it, my sides are hurting.

Friday, December 18, 2009 03:55PM Report Comment

2. vinrouge said...

Surely the US and Israel are not that cynical, or stupid. - But then as they and their supporters control the MSM it's not impossible.

Friday, December 18, 2009 06:14PM Report Comment

3. general congreve said...

@2 - It's a question of desperate rather than stupid I feel. Iran is only a year away from a nuclear weapon, they have capable missiles already and the necessary nuclear facilities, they just need to enrich a bit more uranium and it's welcome to the club.

So, bearing that in mind, is it more likely they would be stupid enough to bait the Yanks in Iraq which could result in attack and invasion, leading to lose of nuclear status before development of nuclear weapons make their borders fully secure? Or is it more probable the Yanks and Israeli's know that soon they won't have the easy option to steal Iran's oil and gas and suppress opponents of Israeli oppression with a freehand, so they need to create a reason to attack Iran?

Friday, December 18, 2009 07:58PM Report Comment

4. rumble said...

Don't buy it.

Al Jazeera:
Colonel Peter Newell, a US military spokesman in Iraq, said that such incidents were not uncommon in the area.

"What happens is, periodically, about every three or four months, the oil ministry guys from Iraq will go ... to fix something or do some maintenance. They'll paint it in Iraqi colours and throw an Iraqi flag up.

"They'll hang out there for a while, until they get tired, and as soon as they go away, the Iranians come down the hill and paint it Iranian colours and raise an Iranian flag.

"It happened about three months ago and it will probably happen again."

Friday, December 18, 2009 08:54PM Report Comment

5. mr g said...

Why is their such a prevalence of anti American,anti Israeli and anti UK older generation sentiments amongst HPCers?

Could it be something to do with sour grapes after misreading the housing market and the aforementioned are easy targets on which to vent their spleen and tantrums?

And before any smart ar*e accuses me of being anti HPC, let me say that although I own my house outright, I couldn't give a tinker's fa*t about house prices and would be delighted if they dropped by another 50%.

Friday, December 18, 2009 10:24PM Report Comment

6. crunchy said...

5. mr g The good old days are the days some are beginning to envy. It's sad when you realise you were born too late. I would rather be my age than have 30 years taken off my life only to live 30years longer is this era. You said 'I couldn't give a tinker's fa*t about house prices and would be delighted if they dropped by another 50%.' In this era that comment is difficult to quantify, but I appreciate your sentiment.

Has anyone really thought about the ramifications of such a drop in house prices? And before any smart ar*e accuses me of being anti HPC, let me say that you really should give this observation more thought than the 50% you have done to date.

Friday, December 18, 2009 11:28PM Report Comment

7. tick tock said...

Mr g

You think that peoples problem with Isreal/ US has something to do with them being bitter about house prices?

If so, then I think that this is a great example of that special mix of ignorance & self centered foolishness that is so often espoused from the British 'older generation' Isn't it?

I think peoples problem with Isreal/ US far more likely stems from a moral objection to their crimes against humanity, than from any bitterness regarding fair valuation of your house.

Saturday, December 19, 2009 08:53AM Report Comment

8. fubar said...

Mr g, I don't think there is a massive amount of ignorant anti-Americanism/ anti-Israel material on here. What there is a lot of is reasoned anti-American anti-Israeli foreign policy and its polar opposite. The cynicism is understandable if you don't believe the hype that Iran is a danger or that its all "plucky little Israel" against the forces of darkness. Which I personally don't buy. The regime in Iran is nutty but it's not suicidal. They're all nutters from the Islamofash's through the Zionists, to the US hawks to leftie liberal middle-class socialists. Not enough pragmatists around for my taste. As someone who didn't cash in on the boom in houseprices I am fairly sure I'm not bitter about it. It hasn't negatively affected my life in any way. To say that is the source of my discomfort at the state of geo-politics is wrong. The source of that unease is a healthy sense of history and a grasp of the law of unintended consequences. No better illustration of that than Iraq. We did exactly what Osama Bin Liner hoped for when we invaded Iraq and Afghanistan. Foreign policy directed by the witless and bewildered as well as the secretly fundamentalist Blair. It's a mess and will only get worse for years to come. My own view as a youngish person who rents and was in the army is that it's the beginning of the end for western democracy. Houseprices don't come into it.

Saturday, December 19, 2009 09:09AM Report Comment

9. icarus said...

Being anti-American has nothing to do with age. Anybody can follow what happened in Afghanistan. Don Rumsfeld, first consigliere to the Bush Crime Family and especially to Giorgio minore, then capo di tutti capi, started by giving up who sections of the country to the warlords, who are at least the equals of the Taliban in brutality, pillage, religious fanaticism and anti-women policies and are their superiors as druglords. It's obvious that building democracy there is not the aim. The aims are to establish a beachhead in central Asia, to monitor China, surround Russia, control resources from the Caspian basin and provide security for US corporations who regaed Asia as the market of the future.

Saturday, December 19, 2009 11:12AM Report Comment

10. icarus said...

"whole sections", "regard"

Saturday, December 19, 2009 11:29AM Report Comment

11. crunchy said...

Are the Bush family pro American?.......

I love America, but hate the people that have taken it over. May they rot in prison where they belong.

Saturday, December 19, 2009 12:40PM Report Comment

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