Wednesday, Nov 04, 2009

Cf. EU orders UK to restructure/bailout RBS/Lloyds.

The Telegraph: Lisbon Treaty: more of Britain's powers surrendered to Brussels

“Europe can now move forward. The Treaty will allow effective European action in areas where solutions are urgent, such as the financial and economic crisis, climate change and energy”

Posted by devo @ 07:06 AM (726 views)
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1. vinrouge said...

Good.

Politicians are all crooks, it doesn't make any difference where they are from. At least they are not half blind.

Wednesday, November 4, 2009 07:41AM Report Comment
 

2. cat and canary said...

i'm normally a Euro-sceptic, but right now at least Brussels is doing something to counter the self-serving, expense-fiddling, corruption stinking, people impoverishing, market manipulating, lying, headline-spinning excuse for a UK government :)

Wednesday, November 4, 2009 09:01AM Report Comment
 

3. Ndg said...

Dear cat and canary, that'l all change when Toe Knee Blair is gifted Imperial Wizard status.

Wednesday, November 4, 2009 09:20AM Report Comment
 

4. need-a-crash said...

@2. fair comment

However the ratifying of Lisbon without a referendum does remind me that we don't really have ANY democracy in this country. The overwhelming majority of people in the UK do not want Lisbon, do not want Gordon Brown and do not want to bail-out bankers and yet what we have is the exact opposite.

Wednesday, November 4, 2009 11:11AM Report Comment
 

5. cat and canary said...

need-a-crash.. "However the ratifying of Lisbon without a referendum does remind me that we don't really have ANY democracy in this country. The overwhelming majority of people in the UK do not want Lisbon, do not want Gordon Brown and do not want to bail-out bankers and yet what we have is the exact opposite."

..agreed. It does seem a good time for Eurocrats to squeeze through any proposals, whilst everyone's too busy reeling with the effects of the crisis.

Democracy is an illusion of choice in the UK right now. The most meaningful outcome would be if next spring the majority of voters choose not to.

Wednesday, November 4, 2009 12:18PM Report Comment
 

6. landofconfusion said...

@3

"However the ratifying of Lisbon without a referendum does remind me that we don't really have ANY democracy in this country."

That's been known for ages. Liebour got in with a massive majority and with only ~33-34% of the voting population voting for them. In fact, we're pretty unusual in that we're a first world country* with a first-past-the-post voting system.

And of course, none of the main parties (or the BBC it seems) see any reason why this should change.


*Not for much longer.

Wednesday, November 4, 2009 01:05PM Report Comment
 

7. rumble said...

"Democracy is an illusion of choice"
Well said!

I feel the same way about democracy as I do about communism - there's validity in there, but they've cocked it up. (Not saying communism could work, but they could have done a better job.) I think it's this party nonsense.

Wednesday, November 4, 2009 01:20PM Report Comment
 

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