Wednesday, Oct 14, 2009

Cloud Cuckoo Land Economy

Telegraph: Public sector workers get pay rises twice the rate of private sector workers

Figures from the Office for National Statistics indicated that public sector workers received a pay rise of 3.4 per cent in the three months to August compared to a pay rise of just 1.5 per cent for employees in the private sector. It highlights the growing disparity between those working in the public sector, who enjoy generous perks such as gold-plated pensions, and those working in the private sector who have suffered the closure of many final salary pension schemes.

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1. Enough Already said...

Disgusting - why are we just letting this continue? No wonder the country is sinking fast. George Orwell's 'Animal Farm' nailed it - with the 'pigs' being the public sector workers and the poor old 'horses' the private.

Wednesday, October 14, 2009 05:58PM Report Comment

2. Redbullish said...

This is an absoute disgrace. I hope the conservatives have the balls to stand up to the public sector if they get in and cut the workforce by 25%, pay by 25%, pensions by 50% and scrap anything to do with early retirement, especially in emergency services.

ps the above includes the sacred NHS and its doctors who have well and truely given Labour an back passage examination over the last 10 years.

Wednesday, October 14, 2009 05:58PM Report Comment

3. crunchy said...

It's great to see Baffoon Brown keeping our armed forces busy on the destruction line.

Money no object!

BTW.... Fox News has joined Crunchy. Down with the Whitehouse! Is the USA coming to it's senses? Let's hope so.

Take back the Nobel Peace Prize for starters, Bloody liar.

Wednesday, October 14, 2009 07:58PM Report Comment

4. mr g said...

From Wikipedia: The nomenklatura were a small, elite subset of the general population in the Soviet Union and other Eastern Bloc countries who held various key administrative positions in all spheres of those countries' activity: government, industry, agriculture, education, etc.

It was widely seen (and resented) by ordinary citizens as a bureaucratic élite that enjoyed special privileges and had simply supplanted the earlier wealthy capitalist élites.

Describes the UK's public sector perfectly.

Wednesday, October 14, 2009 08:56PM Report Comment

5. Cheekie Charlie said...

Labour's value of our loyal seviceman!
Life of an 18 year old infantryman worth 18k a year
RBS boss Stephen Hester worth £9.6m.

Wednesday, October 14, 2009 09:03PM Report Comment

6. Batko said...

"a small, elite subset of the general population".
If only. If only.
Our party cadres are undeniably privileged, wealthy and indulged, but they're very far from élite, and very, very far from small.

Wednesday, October 14, 2009 09:10PM Report Comment

7. icarus said...

mr g - describes much of the private sector too. Why is so much of the private sector so keen to capture government policy and agencies? Big pharma, big food, defence contractors, banks, insurance etc.

Wednesday, October 14, 2009 09:19PM Report Comment

8. icarus said...

crunchy - Why should Obama give back the Nobel Peace Prize? The Prize has been a political tool for nearly all of its life. Only for the first few years was it awarded to unknown people who worked quietly for real peace. Nobel was a Swedish arms trader and knew how closely tied were politics, diplomacy and arms manufacture and trading. He therefore entrusted the award of the prize to Norway (then part of Sweden) because Norway was as neutral as it could be, given its relationship with Sweden (which had a foreign-relations-diplomacy network and therefore couldn't be entrusted with the task of awarding the Prize). A peaceful nation-state, as far as he was concerned, was an oxymoron. Then Norway became independent and tried to muscle into the big-time and hang on to American coat-tails. So it awarded the prize to Teddy Rooosevelt (for his pursuit of the Spanish-American war, massacres in the Philippines and his exhibition of Filipino 'monkey-men' as the missing link between the apes and Americans, badly in need of a forcible dose of Americanisation). The committee has awarded the prize to the likes of Kissinger on a regular basis. So the decision to award the Peace Prize to Obama really has a long and distinguished pedigree.

Wednesday, October 14, 2009 09:49PM Report Comment

9. crunchy said...

4. icarus

My wallet and brains are still intact so no harm done.

Shame about the millions of worshippers. Scary stuff!

Wednesday, October 14, 2009 10:43PM Report Comment

10. mark wadsworth said...

We can quibble about pay levels (a below inflation increase for a decade would sort that out) and get upset about the early retirement/generous pension stuff, but what really irks is that there are twice as many on the public payroll as there ought to be. Surely we could manage with one-in-eight workers working for the state and not one-in-four?

That's where the big savings are. Plus less hassle for the rest of us as fewer forms to fill in.

Wednesday, October 14, 2009 11:54PM Report Comment

11. little professor said...

Doctors, nurses, teachers and police officers were all tied into long-term pay deals - at the time these looked paltry compared to inflation (around 2.5% when RPI was nudging 6%) - the government thought they had pulled a fast one.

Wednesday, October 14, 2009 11:55PM Report Comment

12. fallingbuzzard said...

I'd sack the public sector wholesale and just farm it out on proper contracts, not this public/private nonsense. Frankly the private sector could do the public sector much better. In fact, schoolchildren could do it better. Hey, thats an idea.

Thursday, October 15, 2009 12:17AM Report Comment

13. uncle tom said...

Obama has decided to take on the rabidly political Fox news channel, and at this stage of his presidency he can afford to do this; but Fox, predictably, are going from rabid to hysterical as a result.

Obama deserves to win this showdown, so ignore the lies and distortions that Fox are spouting 24/7, and get your information from less political sources.

Hopefully, Fox will hang themselves..

Thursday, October 15, 2009 01:06AM Report Comment

14. crunchy said...

uncle tom!

Thursday, October 15, 2009 01:11AM Report Comment

15. Robh said...

A lot of public sector pay was agreed for 3 years, 2 years ago. At the time it was below inflation.
This is just feeble (though functional) rabble rousing

Thursday, October 15, 2009 08:26AM Report Comment

16. layers said...

Icarus - thanks for the info on 'Nobel'- very interesting! An interesting article a while ago speculated on what a fourth Bush term would look like, and guess what - exactly as Obama's! It's all BS.
UT - wash your mouth out ;-)

Thursday, October 15, 2009 08:28AM Report Comment

17. Redbullish said...

The NHS has given this governement a through internal examination over the last 10 years.

Thursday, October 15, 2009 10:12AM Report Comment

18. Chrisb said...

Well I work for a local authoirty that's been given a pay rise of 1% this year, so I think its far too easy to generalise on Public Secotr / Private Sector issues. All organisations are diffferent so don't tar everybody with the same brush please

Thursday, October 15, 2009 10:14AM Report Comment

19. letthemfall said...

The usual rubbish from the usual suspects on the public sector.
little professor is right: the public sector has been getting below inflation pay deals for years. Figure I heard the other day - 88% of the civil service are on salaries below the national average. Sounds like a bargain to me.

Thursday, October 15, 2009 12:02PM Report Comment

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