Tuesday, March 3, 2009

Army on standby to be deployed on British Streets

MI5 ALERT ON BANK RIOTS

The “double-whammy” of the worst economic crisis in living memory and a motley crew of political extremists determined to stir up civil disorder has led to the ­extraordinary step of the Army being put on ­standby.

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28 thoughts on “Army on standby to be deployed on British Streets

  • This whole thing seems to be a political charade though – the police are using it to ask for more money, that’s all.

    If the government classes continue to feather their beds on the fat of the land, is it really that surprising that the rest of us riot? Have they learned nothing from history?

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  • mountain goat says:

    The financial authorities have declared war on, and radicalised, every prudent saver in the country. The problem is many will be rioting from Zimmer frames!

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  • There does seem to have been a curious amount of pump-priming taking place – both by the police and the army – to get people out on the streets and rioting. The normal, professional approach, would have been to anticipate the potential problem then quietly prepare for it – yet this seems to be nothing less than an active curtain call for willing participants in mass civil disobedience and unrest. The government knows that the present economic system is visibly falling apart, and with the uncertainties in global oil supply hovering in the foreseeable future, was already setting in place its arsenal of surveillance activities (under the guise of combating non-existent terrorist threats) to help impose martial law at the appropriate time. Perhaps it now needs some evidence of homegrown anarchists wanting to ‘smash the state’ to feed as news reports to a scared and gullible audience, to further facilitate ratcheting up an armed presence on the streets. Twelve months ago this post would have been easily dismissed as paranoid doom-mongering – but I’ll bet some of you aren’t quite so sure now.

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  • I am one of those people who would dismiss this post as paranoid doom-mongering. It did appear in the Daily Express for goodness sake!

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  • PROBLEM,REATION,SOLUTION.

    UK military state. It’s going to move on from the police state.

    3. lierbag said…There does seem to have been a curious amount of pump-priming taking place – both by the police and the army – to get people out on the streets and rioting.

    crunchy- Yep! Total control. Keep doing what we TELL YOU! Picture of armed street soldier.

    Problem.reaction, solution.

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  • cyril said: ‘I am one of those people who would dismiss this post as paranoid doom-mongering. It did appear in the Daily Express for goodness sake!’

    Point taken about the Daily Express! However, these stories don’t appear by accident, particularly with the seeming authorisation of spokespersons for the army or police; think of it more as the government again using willing channels to disseminate its propaganda, in much the same way as the scares over ‘terrorist Ricin labs’, bombs at Old Trafford, and the whole WMD lie were spun out prior to the invasion of Iraq, to secure public complicity in that action. Remember, I’m not the one forecasting widespread violence amidst what is, by any measure, currently an unbelievably placid and tolerant (given the present circumstances) UK public – it’s the government doing so by proxy. Ask yourself – why is it doing this?

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  • who stole my pension? says:

    What rubbish. This is just Gordon Brown’s attempt to stay in power. Gordon will use the pretext of possible riots to declare a national emergency and thus suspend the 2010 general election. For the British police to support such a blatant attempt to undermine democracy is a shame. How can grandma and granddad, with their zimmer frames, be as ferocious as the tens of thousands of fit miners that thought ferocious week long battles with the police? As for rioting bankers getting popular support – stop it or I will die laughing. Nope the British police should be ashamed, they have been drowned in money as anyone who looks closely at council expense reports will know – so how can they now be short staffed? Or is it simply they want yet more money for their generous pension? As for the army, well anyone with common sense knows not to deploy Iraq and Afghanistan battle harden soldiers in to a peace keeping mission. If Gordon Brown does the result will be similar to Bloody Sunday and the Army will, over night, loose the massive amount of sympathy that it has built up fighting new labours wars.

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  • Lord D'arcy Pew says:

    According to the article, British troops could be called upon to shoot at middle class rioters. I doubt this will occur, more likely the officers would turn on Parliament. What would Sandhurst be like if only the chavs were alive?

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  • need-a-crash says:

    As stated above, there’s no way any riots this summer will be as bad as the Poll Tax Riots. Fit unemployed ex-miners and students annoyed at paying the Poll Tax are far more likely rioters than pensioners and professional people annoyed at falling asset prices.

    I’d have thought your typical left-wing rioter would be doing quite well out of this recession, watching the bankers and middle classes suffer.

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  • shining wit says:

    For Gawds sake chaps. THIS IS THE DAILY EXPRESS !!!!

    The newspaper that had DIANA on the front cover for 10 years. The paper that joined the Al-Fayed conspiracy rubbish.

    Quote form one of the comments —

    ” Summer of unrest, massive civil unrest, yes there will be, but it will be the government that orchestrates the unrest, they will use activists to hijack peaceful protests. They will then declare a state of emergency, all elections, local, EU, and national, will be suspended. They will then declare that the police are severely overstretched and cannot deal with all the civil unrest, so they propose that the army patrols the streets and the protests. However the army is overstretched in two illegal wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, so and here comes the crunch, they turn to the EU for help, namely the European Gendarmerie Force, [google this sinister force.] So there you have it, foreign forces on the streets of the UK. ”

    These people are certifiable.

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  • shining wit says:

    Some of the blogs on here remind me of the far-right lunacy that comes out of the american mid-west.

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  • shining wit: ‘For Gawds sake chaps. THIS IS THE DAILY EXPRESS !!!!’

    Strange, but it didn’t stop the issue being debated in Parliament on 23 Feb:

    ‘The home secretary, Jacqui Smith, was urged by Crispin Blunt, the shadow security minister, to make a statement on reports that police are preparing for a “summer of rage” over the economic downturn. He protested that she had failed to answer questions from him about possible unrest. The Speaker, Michael Martin, said: “I’m not responsible for the reply that any minister gives.”But you’ve put the matter on the record and I hope the ministers responsible will take note.”

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  • shining wit says:

    Can you imagine what would have been said if we had the internet and blogs at the time of the poll tax.

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  • shining wit says:

    So an MP ask’s a question in the house of commons.

    I think you’ll find that this is just the media ramping stuff up. I’m not saying that there will be no violence or unrest. I just don’t think that we are either a police state in waiting nor do I think we are ‘hours away from total financial collapse’ as some poster on here seem to think.

    Things are bad, and could get worse, but people seem to think that everything will be much, much worse than ever before. That’s just delusional.

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  • needacrash: ‘I’d have thought your typical left-wing rioter would be doing quite well out of this recession’

    Why would any rioters necessarily be ‘left-wing’? Remember the widespread disruption caused by the first Petrol Blockade? The country later deemed to have been within 48 hours of complete structural collapse? That was almost exclusively undertaken by farmers and HGV owner-drivers – and what a bunch of lefties they traditionally are! Do you read the ‘Daily Express’ by any chance?

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  • shiningwit: ‘I think you’ll find that this is just the media ramping stuff up’

    Of course – because papers like the ‘Mail’ (its founder, Lord Northcliffe, supposedly having stated that he intended giving his readers ‘something new to hate every day’) and The ‘Express’ have their own agendas; which is to fuel largely middle-class paranoia by constantly suggesting either that ‘forces’ are constantly at work to undermine their way of life, or – using the resentment angle – that someone, somewhere is getting money/benefits they shouldn’t be getting. Governments constantly, though more subtly, try to invoke the same reactions – using dogwhistle phrases such as ‘hard working families’ at every opportunity.

    The key thing here, is that it clearly hasn’t been a case of the newspapers just making this up – ‘National Enquirer’ fashion. We have spokespersons – for the army and police – seemingly acting in concert; predicting summer violence from a populace which, as I’ve already said, has been for the most part peaceful, civilised and acquiescent throughout the current economic downturn. The only suggestion of unrest, coming from the government’s own agencies. The matter of the police and army suggesting civil violence being inevitable in the face of the recession was deemed important enough to attract questions in parliament, but without any success in drawing a statement – either to confirm or deny – from Jacqui Smith. Now, don’t you think this is all rather odd?

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  • shining wit says:

    Nope

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  • shining wit says:

    Where exactly are these ‘spokespersons for the army and police’ ?

    Could you supply references please.

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  • Let’s conclude this interesting discussion by restating the comments originally made by Supt David Hartshorn. You can read it in one of two ways; either at absolute face value (concerned but startlingly irresponsible cop), or as a clarion call of coded suggestions (‘join protests’, ‘foment unrest’, ‘footsoldiers’, ‘Suddenly there is the opportunity for people to mass protest’, “viable targets” for protesters’) as to how people might go about physically venting their anger on the streets.

    Rather odd indeed.

    From BBC News:

    Police are preparing to face a “summer of rage” in the UK as people join protests over the economic downturn, says a senior Met Police officer. “Known activists” were likely to foment unrest, with the recession creating more “footsoldiers” to join them, Supt David Hartshorn told the Guardian. The G20 meeting in London in April is expected to be a focus of protests. BBC home editor Mark Easton said signs of anger would “not necessarily translate into action on the streets”.

    Supt Hartshorn is regularly briefed on potential civil unrest, as head of Scotland Yard’s public order branch. The officer said that the established activists “would be good at motivating people, but they haven’t had the ‘footsoldiers’ to actually carry out [protests].
    “Obviously the downturn in the economy, unemployment, repossessions, changes that. Suddenly there is the opportunity for people to mass protest.” The upcoming meeting of the G20 in London in April has been selected by some activists as a focus for anger

    Supt Hartshorn also said that banks, particularly those that paid large bonuses despite receiving billions of pounds of taxpayers’ money, had become “viable targets” for protesters.’

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  • shiningwit: ‘Where exactly are these ‘spokespersons for the army and police’ ? Could you supply references please.’

    My apologies. The scaremongering has all been originating from the Police – the army supposedly being placed ‘on standby’, but without any comment on this having been made by the military themselves. My mistake – and I’m happy to point that out.

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  • shining wit says:

    smoke an mirrors are being used everywhere.

    This isn’t the age of aquarious, this is the age oof the internet, the paranoid, the whole of the modern world becoming the chattering classes, the age of consumption and the age old story of everything being blown out of proportion.

    When we all blow things out of propertion, when soemthing big happens like this recession/depression, then the exaggeration is even bigger.

    I expect that their will be violence at the G20 summit, but that would be inline wth all the other summits that have happened with a G in front of them.

    People like a good scrap ! They also love predicting the ‘end of the world’ scenarios – Just like the jehovahs !

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  • Yes, it is being blown up out of all proportion. Shockingly though, it’s the police doing all the hyping up of threats of urban violence – complete with a checklist of suggested targets – and then when this approach is brought into question in parliament, no comment from the Home Secretary is forthcoming. Not paranoia then – just well founded concern.

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  • sold 2 rent 1 says:

    lierbag,

    Derren Brown would be proud of this “suggestion planting” by the police.

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  • shining wit says:

    lierbag….

    Everyone, and I do mean everyone, is a vested interest of some sort or other. Estates agents have a vested interest in increased property prices, politicians have a vested interest in increasing their poweres and the police have a vested interest in trying to prevent mass violence. Almost everyone on HPC has a vested interest in lower and more sustainable house prices.

    Some vested interests are harmless and some very sinister and dangerous. It’s hardly surprising that the police are warning of possible civil unrest as it is with psychiatrists warning of the dangers of psychoactive substances like cannabis.

    Of course there are ‘dodgy’ people trying to ramp up all kinds of pressures but that is because they may either have hidden agendas or because they just want to vent their opinions. The police already have to deal with (literally) millions of drunk @rseholes in every town and city centre for 2-3 days a week causing havoc and making their job tantamount to just clearing up after violent and irresponsible waste of spaces. They are just trying to prepare for it, they are hardly saying ‘come to London and wreck the place at the G20 summit, we want more overtime’.

    Sooner or later there is bound to be roiting and unrest, that’s the nature of millions of people in a small space. It’s also not hard to see that the current recession/depression will make people resort to violence to vent their anger.

    In almost every single case civil unrest is an extremely ugly and unwanted thing. Following the ‘eye for an eye’ strategy can end up making a lot of people blind.

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  • 6% of any population – beware
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    the bods who fed this to the express will of course know this.

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  • not exactly new or confines to express either

    Police fear mass protests and a ‘summer of rage’ in response to economic crisis
    By Daily Mail Reporter
    Last updated at 2:08 PM on 23rd February 2009
    Comments (112) Add to My Stories Police are bracing themselves for a ‘summer of rage’ against the economic crisis, a senior officer warned today.
    Superintendent David Hartshorn, who heads the Metropolitan Police’s public order branch, said he feared there could be ‘mass protest’ at rising unemployment, failing financial institutions and the downturn in the economy.
    The officer told The Guardian that ‘known activists’ were planning returns to the streets, and intelligence revealed that they may be able to call on more protesters than normal due to the unprecedented conditions.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1152583/Police-fear-mass-protests-summer-rage-response-economic-crisis.html

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