Friday, January 30, 2009

“British Jobs for British workers”

Refinery strikes spread across UK

Strikes have been breaking out across the UK in support of a mass walkout by energy workers in Lincolnshire angry at the use of foreign workers. Hundreds gathered for the third day of the original strike at Lindsey Oil Refinery after owner Total gave a £200m contract to an Italian firm. "All we want is for Gordon Brown to fulfil his promise. He said British jobs for British workers."

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20 thoughts on ““British Jobs for British workers”

  • will this cause a petrol shortage?

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  • japanese uncle says:

    Good point. Could be manipulated by the powerful in the oil industries.

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  • Looks like people in the west are finally starting to see what globalization really means for them.

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  • The BBC does seem to be quite careful these days not to mention the likely effect on petrol-station forecourts whenever something happens with refineries/tankers – hasn’t stopped me from thinking about filling up as soon as I can though.

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  • Sounds like jingoistic stuff from the Brits i am afraid. How the british workers cant compete with foreign workers when the pound is at its current level is beyond me. I dont know the background – but would appreciate being enlightened.

    It just strikes me that we live in a global market for resource and Total wouldnt take such a decison lightly – I doubt the management havent weighed up the potential problem with the UK workers that we are seeing now and thought that more than offset by the skills / costs of the italians.

    In some industries it would work the other way – i am reminded of Auf Wiedersehen, Pet.

    “British jobs for british workers” unless i have to pay for me TV when its wherever its made as cheaply as possible.

    Not that i am advocating protectionism of any sort – its just sometimes you cant have your cake and eat it! – Am expecting some wrath ….

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  • mountain goat says:

    Right or wrong I think protectionism will start creeping in as jobs are lost. Obama has shown his direction by starting a Buy American campaign and accusing China of currency manipulation.

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  • Large-scale protests are not common in Britain, although it has happened – the general strike in the 20s, perhaps an indication of things to come – and more recently the poll tax riots and the urban disturbances in 1981. There seems a fair chance there’ll be more of this.

    I expect to see some protectionism. Globalisation is in theory a good idea – find the most efficient means of production – but this has benefited only a small section of society. Hence the super-rich, decline in middle salaries and the poverty of workers in this country and the Far East. I listened to a programme on the radio last night. A Japanese woman opted to live in a tent in a park in Tokyo, rather than work hard just to earn only enough to live in a flat and feed herself. So much for the benefits of globalisation.

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  • letthemfall – glad we are back to being at odds – am much more comfortable now :-). I think protectionism IS a very bad thing for the whole wealth of nations (have i become adam smith?). However i do feel that the facts are that protectionism does always creep in through the back door – so the theoretical global free trade (in all resources – including labour) is exactly that.

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  • Well if British workers didn’t have to pay so much for their housing, they wouldn’t need to be paid so much more.

    When will people realise that housing is something everyone needs and therefore the cheaper it is the better.

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  • japanese uncle says:

    Unless their anger is rightly directed, any demonstration is fine, (“R”)

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  • a note to all, went to a local petrol station the woman said they had been so busy they are having to order in more fuel ,,,,,,,,,,,,maybe we will need to start queuing over the next few days

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  • I think for this country most peoples standard of living increased from about 1880 up to about the late 1960’s, I think since then this country in general has gone down hill if you take in to account things like debt, family breakdown, overcrowding, stress etc etc. Which could be why a lot of people are just throwing in the towel and signing on the dole, the return is no longer worth the effort.

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  • Continental europe companies tend to exclusively use their native companies and other continental european ones to the exclusion of outside ones as a matter of course. British based companies (and government bodies) are technically obliged to go to OJUE on any contract above £93319 in line with EU Regulations. As usual the rules are followed over here and turned a blind eye to over there wherever it suits.

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  • Firsttimebuyer says:

    British jobs for British workers … National socialism is back … and so will its demons. People never learn!

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  • It should really say “British jobs for British Workers, at Foreign Companies!” given that Total is French

    I’d happily swap lives with an Italian. They can come here and have a crap commute, rubbish weather and hugely expensive housing/transport/food/education etc.

    This is a load of nonsense

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  • Comment 9 from need a crash is so true.

    If we are going to be forced to stop being a consumer society and become more of a producer society again, which at the moment appears to be the only option, we have to become more competitive in terms of production costs. While we may not want to get down to Chinese cost levels we have to be able to compete with Germany, France, Spain, Italy etc in terms of manufacturing. At the moment we can’t do this as we are paid too much to compete. Those companies that do try use Eastern European labour.

    But the worker needs a high wage to pay for his housing, whether through mortgage or rental.

    The easiest cost saving would therefore be much lower rents and mortgage costs. It would make us more competitive internationally.

    A basic house should cost no more than the agricultural value of the land plus the genuine cost to build it (with a living margin for the builder of course). In the days of Council Housing this could be achieved. Maybe we need to return to Council Housing big time.

    I think housing costs will fall anyway. As the government is going in the opposite direction it will be done through unemployment the painful way. But it will happen, the market will make sure it does. It may mean big benefit cuts to the sick and the unemployed. It may take big cuts in the health service and education to make us cost competitive wityhin Europe, but the least painful cut would be a cut in housing costs. We can’t continue as a consumer society as noone is going to lend / give us the money to do it anymore.

    I fear that those BTL people are holding continuously declining assets. The real losers though will be those close to retirement that were relying on equity release.

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  • Eternal Sceptic says:

    Immingham and the surrounding area have had a workforce strongly dependant on periodic shutdowns at LOR and conoco. They have the necessary skills and motivation to do the work required. Crash gordon and his ‘british jobs for british workers’ is clearly shown to be the lie that it is.. It is a dangerous game he plays. This could easily spiral out of control. I have every sympathy with the workers of immingham.

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  • Robertpaulson says:

    what a bunch of idiots. i really feel like going up there an walking around with a banner saying “Lindsey jobs for Lindsey locals only, get back to Hull you sponging job nickers”

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  • I hope the use of foreign workers is drastically cut and England can finally reclaim its home. We’ve been paying tax all of our lives why should someone who turns up off of a plane have a right to our work when the country is in such a crisis. Unfortunately there is no way to be kind about this but I’m sure you know what I mean to say.

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  • landofconfusion says:

    “why should someone who turns up off of a plane have a right to our work when the country is in such a crisis.”

    Maybe it’s because our education system is rubbish, our workers overpaid (relative to those in Europe), our costs of living (buying a house mainly) is too high and very few people are willing to do anything about the state of the political system. Except maybe moan and groan.

    If people got off their rear-ends, demand a proper education, better & more affordable housing (no boxes) and challenged the way this country is run we wouldn’t have so many problems.

    Still, the way things are going we’ll be like Italy soon enough. Then their won’t be any complaints about the foreign workers – they’ll be us.

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