Thursday, November 13, 2008

BBC turns on Brown at last!

Brown blew my legacy, says Major

Sir John said Labour "has as much financial blood on its hands as any banker". He said Mr Brown took credit for the years of economic growth he inherited from the Tories in 1997. And the former Tory PM accused Mr Brown of presiding over a debt-fuelled boom in property and asset prices.( ...more in the Times)

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29 thoughts on “BBC turns on Brown at last!

  • To put it as simply as possible, Brown is an incompetent fool, who also seems to have problems with truth issues. Frank Field MP, who commands a lot of respect from all parties seems to think that Brown may possibly be insane as well, judging from his ‘Mad Mrs Rochester’ remarks some months ago. God help us all.

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  • planning4acrash says:

    Just a propaganda shift. Post American election, we are now heading towards the British election and the Cameron Coronation. But he won’t change ANYTHING. He will continue the war, the police state, the war on (t)error, the inflation, the globalist agenda. Nothing will change, they will use cover of the new leader to just push through more crap.

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  • Agree with P4AC – different party but same old s**te – it wouldnt matter if Clegg & Co were voted in, same old policies under differently badged poliyical party.

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  • Just keeping a low profile here, but “New Labour” seems to have been a front for “Old Labour” but without the Trade Unions. Their policies of spend-spend-spend will do no good at all and we are back into boom and bust. The biggest losers will be small businesses, but since they do not make the headline “1,000 job losses at XYZ Ltd”, they will be swept under the proverbial carpet.

    The crystal ball show little sign of stabilising just yet and if they continue to wreck havoc on the business community by messing with interest rates (heaven help us if they actually produce a 1% Base Rate) then the boom/bust cycle will actually produce wilder swings.

    There is no hope at all under the current leadership policies, the crash will just swing wildly down, bounce wildly up and there will be an even shorter interlude until the next crash. We are currently predicting a mad mini-boom in the latter half of 2009 and then a stupendous crash in 2010. (Probably accompanied by lots of inflation…)

    On a side note:
    The Pawn Shop deal fell through a few months ago, so that there is still only one shop. Other casualties now reach into the gift and craft shops, which you would expect to hold their ground until the New Year Sales are over. Conditions are definitely very bad along the High Street.

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  • i reckon the nation is really in the mood for austere honesty and not the fantasy politics and economics that have come to dominate under brown’s chancellorship and latterly leadership. i don’t think there is a pan-party global agenda of the sort posters 2 and 3 describe. more global incompetence and a few misguided shared ideas. cameron should be completely honest about what he can deliver, given the constraints imposed upon him. it’s a golden opportunity.

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  • I always rated John Major mostly because of his unassuming unpretentious style of leadership, the sort of P.M. you could actually believe was telling the truth. As for Brown he must rate as one of the worst if not the worst P.M. in U.K. history and the same goes for his time as chancellor.

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  • planning4acrash says:

    Clegg is bought and paid for. They key to understand is, that the same think tanks, foundations and sponsors fund and provide propaganda for all of them. As a wise man once said, when the same agenda continues, from administration to administration, you know that you are under tyranny.

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  • Major is easily the best PM in my life time (but let’s face it the competition isn’t stiff) – even a hardened tory-hater such as myself can see that. He played the most significant part in bringing peace to northern ireland as well – in a way that his predecessor could never have done and for which his successor took the credit. But it’s easier to talk BS and appeal to morons to get votes than do the sensible thing, hence the popularity of the likes of bliar.

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  • planning4acrash says:

    He looked like a stiff tho!!

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  • I wonder if Edwina found him a Stiff

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  • little professor says:

    As someone just about old enough to remember Major’s regime, the only thing that stands out as memorable is the Cones Hotline, and him joking about service stations being too far apart so you end up weeing yourself. That’s the only legacy I see for him.

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  • Jack C said:
    “Agree with P4AC – different party but same old s**te”

    I tend to agree with you both. All three leading political parties are a pile of toss but I don’t believe the Tories or Lib Dem would have milked the British people to the extent that Gordon Brown did. Brown is culpable for a huge proportion of the current economic woes. He sold the British people down the river for his own selfish political ambition. What irks me is that he claimed it was an economic miracle.

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  • The Tories may not be perfect but five more years of Labour would be a total nightmare. It is obvious who not to vote for.

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  • planning4acrash says:

    I’m voting UKIP. Voting with my conscience, you see, in our system, we are controlled, because we vote people out, but the folks at the top, are all run by the same higher group of foundations & think tanks. When you see the same agenda, progressing, unabated, from administration to administration, you know that you are under tyranny.

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  • Hasn’t he forgotten it was his economic policy that led to Black Wednesday, and that the beneficial exchange rate freedom that followed (and which led to the recovery) was entirely accidental?

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  • planning4acrash says:

    yup, monte, and the mainstream media fed us the LIE that Black Wednesday was bad, no, the boom prior caused the misallocation of wealth, and those sucked into the ponzi scheme were addicted to it like a junkie. Yup, freedom is actually good, I mean, the opposite, what we have now, is tyranny. The Austrian Explanation for the Business Cycle

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  • P4AC – the man who carries with him problems, no solutions.

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  • best not to register or vote at all. What difference does it make? For me I just try to stay off the system as much as possible before they microchip us all.

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  • Voting for UKIP is a wasted vote.

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  • @mytimeisnigh – “Voting for UKIP is a wasted vote” and so is voting Labour, Conservative or Lib Dem – do have you any other ideas for me?

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  • @jack c 17, I’m sure that everyone would like the opportunity to vote for a common sense party, with the financial experts running the economy, teachers running education, medical professionals runing the NHS etc etc. The ministry of mechanics would get things working beautifully, n’est – ce pas? They would soon sort out the defective cogs in the wheel. This is wishful thinking, there is a choice of two, blues or reds. 🙁 I’d prefer pink.

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  • Bring Forth The Guillotine says:

    How come you lot don’t bring your comments over to the main forum, there is no thread related to this over there? For what its worth the fact the Major has finally waded in suggests that he now feels that labours mismanagement of the economy and current collapse in sterling knocks the ERM debacle into a cocked hat. Are they now bringing out the loud voices so that the public is left in no doubt who is responsible and why?

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  • Ahhhh….. The cones hotline! Forgotten about that.
    Major may have been a stiff, but at least he wasn’t a psycho. He had a life outside politics, seemed to be quite pleased to be out of the job and preferred watching cricket when it was over – seems more normal to me – well except for edwina. Better than a megalomaniac who destroyed half the Country like Mrs T, an amoral conscienceless tw*t like blair or a man deluded of his own abilities like Brown.
    Then again there was the ERM debacle – but he did succesfully pass the blame for that onto Lamont!
    I do find it quite depressing that that I can’t think of anyone worth voting for these days. Perhaps Thatcher was a good thing, because I knew who I hated.

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  • Pardon my french but what is cones? Do I take it, phdinb that you’d vote for my common sense party?

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  • Bring on the purple alliance?

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  • If only Brown’s legacy was half as strong as John Majors’…. Certainly John Major was underrated and left a sound economy (where public debt was reduced!), and of course he began the Northern Ireland peace process, and introduced the National Lottery making money available to good causes, and the success of our Olympians is in part a result.

    Fahrenheit451 I like your point regarding the likely swings in our economy…perhaps the most damning legacy from Brown.

    A central task of any government is to manage the business cycle in a way that minimises the gap between peak and trough. The economic picture should give the impression of being constant and without fluctuations.

    Asset inflation grew at such a pace that the downturn is now likely to be severe and of course, most economists will tell you the longer you go without a recession the worst it will be when it arrives. A severe recession will also create greater upside risks. I fear therefore a feature of our economy in the coming years will be greater swings in the economic cycle.

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  • I did try the UKIP, but eventually realised that the leadership seems to have lost the plot and have become corrupted by “the powers that be”, so I no longer have any time for them.

    This may help, the web traffic says it all

    http://blog.webometrics.org.uk/2008/03/surprising-web-case-of-uk-political.html

    I seriously think that dynamic and radical action is required, by people with common sense, who know how to work with limited money, and realise that the real causes of this moving train wreck must be addressed, including the damage caused by Political Correctness, and other Marxist ideologies.

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  • When you vote, you are participating in a rigged system. That does not mean that it is wrong to vote, or that all outcomes of the election are equivalent. They are not, and this is why Howard Zin and Noam Chomsky advocated voting for Obama recently. Is it not better to vote for the least bad realistic option (getting the Labour candidate may be a priority) and work to change the rigged system so that it is less rigged come the next election?

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  • Cones hotline:
    “The hotline was widely seen as being a waste of government resources, costing several thousand pounds per year to run. It was quietly disbanded in September of 1995, having fielded a total of fewer than twenty thousand calls. It was rumoured that many of these calls were not serious enquiries, with many a prankster calling up to request a “’99 with raspberry sauce”.”
    (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cones_Hotline)

    There was a man that got down to the real issues

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