Saturday, August 2, 2008

7/29/2008 Ron Paul Interview with Glenn Beck where the Congressman warns that something big is about to happen, economically speaking.

Ron Paul Warns Glenn Beck Something Big Is About to Happen with Economy

Some have questioned whether we are going into depression or collapse, thinking that a recession is all at hand. There are thousands of trillions of derivatives in the financial sector, worth many thousands times more than all of the value of the entire world. When, not if, investors realise the reality, when they try to withdraw, there will be a run on the world economy. Not a run on a bank. A run on the world economy. Your currency will be worth nothing, and nobody will be able to fund the food distribution and supermarket system.

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46 thoughts on “7/29/2008 Ron Paul Interview with Glenn Beck where the Congressman warns that something big is about to happen, economically speaking.

  • Taking your headline P4AC

    If money is to be worth nothing – what are people going to buy houses with in 3-4 years time in the trough.

    Or how low do you see houses going.

    Savings can/will be devalued by inflation. However if those savings are specifically for a house purchase and the price of houses is falling then the value of that money is effectively increasing in value isn’t it ?

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  • planning4acrash says:

    All mortgages would be called in. Everybody who can’t pay off their variable rate mortgages will be repossessed. Nobody coming of a fixed rate will be able to re-mortgage. Credit card debt, etc. will all be called in asap. Community’s need to be organised to repel the b(w)ankers. Houses will have infinite fiat value, almost no value in terms of gold. Get to know your neighbours.

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  • A mortgage is an agreement to repay over a certain period of time.

    Banks can’t just call in mortgages. They can ask for top ups on equity if that is part of the deal (it is with BTL) It is not with home mortgages.

    Frankly if things get as bad as you say, the last place I’d want my money is in a supposed asset in a vault in Zurich. The only reference of which I would have to that is a piece of paper or an electronic number.

    What if the vault gets raided, what if the value of Gold falls (it’s 3 x the price it was) it still has the same uses as it did 5 years ago.
    I see Gold in major bubble territory.

    Once the price of a house has dropped to it’s cost to build it, plus say 50% for the land value and services (ie 4 bed det. 150k build cost + 75k land and services) (perhaps currently 500k in reasonable South East area) this would then represents good value. You can live in house don’t forget, or even rent it out.

    Gold is mainly speculation.

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  • planning4acrash says:

    str 2007, I agree. Vaults of innocent people have already been raided by police in the UK. You can get small 1oz coins, krugerands, maple leafs, etc. only 18% capital gains tax on sale, with your allowance on top, or, and I’m not 100% sure about this, no capital gains tax, but, income tax, if you have Brittania’s and Sovereigns, because they are legal tender in the UK. You can get them between 2 and 4% above spot prices. So, store, at today’s prices, close to £500 in an ounce. Even if you don’t move your savings into it, it is prudent for each family to have between 1 and 5 of these coins. If you need to leave the country, for example, these can get you out.

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  • “Ron Paul Warns Glenn Beck Something Big Is About to Happen with Economy”
    Interesting that the site holds the usual links to “Alex Jones”, Infowars etc.

    Whatever the link the theme is same old, same old! They constantly apply the oldest tricks in the book. The mind is far more open to manipulation when confronted with fear, especially when the word “truth” is repeated enough times. Fortunately most people are able to make balanced decisions from a range of sources, whereas others have lost the ability to make balanced decisions and wait like cult members for the next sermon.

    At one end of the spectrum we have what Icke refers to as the sheeple. This is the group of people who are “blind” (according to Icke) to the world around them and simple go along with what is told to them via Govt and the media channels.
    Now, at the other end of the spectrum we have the conspiraloons who seem to me “blind” in #EXACTLY# the same but in a more paronoid way than the sheeple. The conspiraloons are spoon-fed theories through fear from a smaller group of self-publicists who take the role as messiah.

    The truly smart, the free-thinkers are those that sit in the middle and maintain the ability to assess situations and act accordingly, not the conspiraloons who believe they have the monopoly and inside track on “truth” and not the sheeple who believe BTL is a good investment because Kirsty and Phil told them so. Those free-thinkers do not need messiahs or nanny-state Govt., they are the independent thinkers and there is plenty on this blog. I could name names but I’m pretty sure they know who they are. Those people are making decisions based on input across the spectrum.

    The normal riposte of the conspiraloon to those that do not subscribe to their belief is to provide links to YouTube videos of their messiahs or accuse the other party of having a closed mind.

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  • planning4acrash says:

    Denzil, Ron Paul was a Republican Presidential Candidate. He got more donations from servicemen than all the others combined. campaignforliberty.com

    The interview is on a mainline US primetime talk show.

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  • planning4acrash says:

    Dr, he is a Doctor, Dr Ron Paul made the initial statement on this issue, in, the US Congress.

    When will you wake up people?

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  • Denzil
    A well worded post – you should copy this and post it regularly.

    P4AC
    I guess there’s no harm in keeping a few Krugerands. However in the circumstances you describe, would you trust the person ‘getting you out of the country’ once he/she knew you were paying in gold held about your person and that clearly you had some left for your arrival in your chosen destination.

    I personally think the UK has gone down hill a bit and will no doubt get worse when all the car thieving chavs get made redundant again and have time on their hands. However, where on earth (literally) do you think is going to be any better for you to arrive in with a handful of krugerands ?

    If you haven’t got a job here no English speaking country will want you (plus it takes 1-3 years to emmigrate anyway).

    You could go to Europe but then you’ll face the same problems as here but with a language barrier aswell.

    I don’t know your background but suggest you batten down the hatches here (which you no doubt have) and plan for your future here. It’s probably the safest place to have a crash. And according to you the whole world is going to crash.

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  • P4C,

    For what it’s worth, I think Ron Paul’s observations about the way America prints money are valid however I’m going to have to ask you again:

    Please can we have more material about the UK? Undoubtedly, a major collapse in confidence in the dollar would affect the UK but how exactly? I don’t see any serious discussion about the impact on our country which is a shame. When I browse this site, I’m more interested in what will happen here – the Americans will have to sort out their own issues and our opinions on that count for nothing anyway.

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  • P4AC said:
    “When will you wake up people?”

    You prove my point, re:

    “The normal riposte of the conspiraloon to those that do not subscribe to their belief is to provide links to YouTube videos of their messiahs or accuse the other party of having a closed mind.”

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  • Nice one p4c, you’ve done it again:

    “Our lives are in his hands
    We pay with Krugerands
    The currency of pain to Help Us Leaving”

    When your comments can be found in a Human League song (‘Dreams of Leaving’, 1980), you know you’re onto something big…

    If some of the wilder speculations in Paul and elsewher come to pass, you’ll be back to looking for your dinner with a stick, Gold bug-ery or no. I wouldn’t knock the yanks on this — they’re the ones laying-in the tinned beef along with the assualt riffles, the water filtration systems and the bunkers — but then they have been since the 1950s.

    Life is too short for all for this sort of nonsense — if you want to p1ss yours away on this, go ahead…

    Davip

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  • denzil @ 5.

    A good interpretation of the mind set of the convinced conspiracy theorist and of those with the ability to think and interpret such thinkings without resorting to the “whole worlds in a big mess and we all gonna git stuffed” mantra.

    And I seriously can’t abide anyone who seriously uses David Icke and a reference on anything. I reckon Barry George knows more about the way the world works that David “shell suit” Icke. The royal family are lizards… well they may be a bit cold blooded but that’s it really. I personally think if you mention anything Icke says in a post on this blog you should really be shot at dawn because your ability to think for yourself has deserted you!

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  • planning4acrash says:

    Our press and politics are so totally controlled that there is naff all of any consequence here. In anycase, we follow the US, just look at the housing market and how we followed it. Basically, look the US. If the dollar collapses, you’ve got about 5 days to get yourself food, water, shelter, and, well, just think about how the decadent general public will behave without food and water.

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  • This county could do with a fresh start.

    Basically we need smaller government i.e. less politicians and less bureaucracy. Why on earth we have 629 mps in westminister, plus god knows how lords in the upper chamber, 100 odd members for the scottish parliment, 60 in the welsh assemby not to mention the european gravy train. Added to that you got hoards of hangers on at local government. Here in Wales we have 22 unitary authorities for a county that is smaller than yorkshire. The waste in the system is phenomenal!

    If a new political party were to be started which promised to reform the politcal system so that we had a leaner, meaner, fitter form of government I’d vote for that!

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  • planning4acrash says:

    Dead Money, small government doesn’t mean less MP’s. It means less taxation, less printing money and inflation, and less spending. 629MP’s for 55million people is actually probably spot on. What we need is more representation, i.e. if you have enough for an MP by proportional representation, but not enough to get a seat, that we make way additional seats for the fringe groups, like UKIP, Green Party, Libertarian Party, etc. Maybe BNP would get a seat, but, maybe government would finally do something about our open borders.

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  • sold 2 rent 1 says:

    Just as Robert Prechter predicted a slow motion stocks crash, we shall have a slow motion economic collapse with a final end-of-money phase in 2011.

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  • sold 2 rent 1 says:

    There is no other way for the sleepwalkers to wake up.
    This is why it MUST happen.

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  • str 2007 said
    “I personally think the UK has gone down hill a bit and will no doubt get worse when all the car thieving chavs get made redundant again and have time on their hands. However, where on earth (literally) do you think is going to be any better for you to arrive in with a handful of krugerands ?”

    Which is a good question,if the US and UK economies are really going to collapse as some of the uber-doom-mongers predict,then where in the World would be the safest place to escape to.Any ideas anyone?

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  • Put some conspiracy theorists in a room together for a discusion on their pet subject. 5 minutes after the start they’ll all be warily looking at each other trying to spot the conspiracy being hatched by the others against them.

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  • planning4acrash says:

    S2R, you are not up to the speed of change now. It will happen before 2010, remember that we have a year of calm during the 7th day. It will all pass by then. The final stage is co-creation, as the power, technology and ideas are let loose on the population. IMHO.

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  • planning4acrash says:

    Anywhere not controlled by the NWO. It could actually be counter-intuitive. Iran, Serbia, Russia, South America, Venezuela, Cuba. An African village where they are all self-sufficient?! You can buy a house in an African village for £100 and get a plot of land. A single Sovereign will do it!!

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  • Can you explain what you mean about this comment: we have a year of calm during the 7th day. It will all pass by then. The final stage is co-creation, as the power, technology and ideas are let loose on the population.

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  • For goodness sake P4AC

    £100 for a plot of land in an African Village.

    1/ Can you just go to Africa without a visa and how long does that take to get?
    2/ Did you see what happened to white farmers ?
    3/ If you find a place with food and water that will accept you ?
    4/ You might ha…… sorry I could be at this all night.

    With your list of suggestions of safe havens it’s you you should be worried about not the others.

    How are you still alive if your mind works like this.

    I strongly suggest you exchange your Krugerands for a few sessions of councilling.

    I’m happy to listen to your problems but seriously I think you need help of some sort.

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  • 2. planning4acrash said… “All mortgages would be called in. Everybody who can’t pay off their variable rate mortgages will be repossessed.” – Won’t happen
    4. planning4acrash said… “Even if you don’t move your savings into it, it is prudent for each family to have between 1 and 5 of these coins. If you need to leave the country, for example, these can get you out.” – Where are you gonna go?
    7. planning4acrash said… “When will you wake up people?” – I try to have a lie in at least once a week
    13. planning4acrash said… “If the dollar collapses, you’ve got about 5 days to get yourself food, water, shelter” – If the dollar collapses I’ll not only eat Krusties hat, I’ll spit roast her (not that way, the old way!) and devour the woman myself
    17. sold 2 rent 1 said… “There is no other way for the sleepwalkers to wake up.” – Yes you are all so aware and we imbeciles are just cannon fodder.
    20. planning4acrash said… “It will happen before 2010, remember that we have a year of calm during the 7th day. It will all pass by then. The final stage is co-creation, as the power, technology and ideas are let loose on the population.” – And the lizard people reveal themselves and we will all be enslaved
    21. planning4acrash said… “Anywhere not controlled by the NWO. It could actually be counter-intuitive. Iran, Serbia, Russia, South America, Venezuela, Cuba. An African village where they are all self-sufficient?! You can buy a house in an African village for £100 and get a plot of land. A single Sovereign will do it!!” – If African villages are self sufficient how come most of them are affected by world food prices.

    Planning4acrash get yo’ @rse up to Edinburgh immediately, theres a slot for you at the fringe 2008. BArking is not only a town in Essex!

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  • sold 2 rent 1 says:

    P4AC,

    The 6th night does not finish until Nov 2010.
    We only get 4-5 months of bliss before being thrown into chaos again.

    At the end of the last 6th night (1972-1992) we saw communism fall.
    This is when capitalism will fall too (mid-late 2010)

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  • Some of Ron Paul’s comments have a firm foundation. Much of the economy of the US has taken an unprecedented hit recently . If you look at yesterday’s posts you will see the GM made a thumping $15bn loss, Ford have made big losses ($8bn), announced a week ago.

    Will this ripple across to the UK? – in my opinion, it can’t be avoided as we buy/sell/insure/hire Mondeos, Fiestas and Astras (to name but a few).

    I could talk about Air Ticket sales, Starbucks coffee houses or Housebuilding. The very weak American marketplace is being replicated here. Jobs are being lost, industries are being squeezed as well as those nasty Estate Agents.

    How far will it go? – I don’t know. But I do feel the comments by P4aC have some validity. I think this economic problem could quickly turn into a major issue.

    Some time back, I bought some “insurance” against disaster – on a regular basis I bought some gold coins. I treated them as “dead money” at the time, like an insurance premium. With the rise of gold I’ve (accidentally) made a big profit. I also have an alternative currency to buy with (just in case).

    However, if law & order breaks down, my first purchase may be a gun!

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  • alan @ 25.

    “However, if law & order breaks down, my first purchase may be a gun!” and “But I do feel the comments by P4aC have some validity.”

    I (believe it or not) also think that some (and I do mean SOME) of what the more ‘adventurous’ posters here have to say (P4AC, S2R1, malct and others) has roots in truth. But I do honestly feel that talk of absolute economic collapse is both unprecendented (unless through war!) and dangerous. An awful lot of people need leading and as such they can be led to destruction and carnage (Rwhanda and 30s Germany / Japan) . Nobody wants economic collapse, it just makes the world ungovernable, I don’t believe in anarchy because that just lead to the chap with the biggest gun/army. People talk about previous civilisations collapsing but that normally meant either war or usurpment by others through war.

    I hope (i don’t prey because that would be foolish) that the “global conciousness” does change, but I don’t wish for economic collapse because that would be more awful than what’s here now. But I don’t want no bloody world where I gotta have gold to survive and have a gun to keep the starvin masses from finding my stash of 20 year old baked beans. I think people know that our civilisation could end but that’s very diferent from it actually happening. I have more faith in humanity than that. Most people are decent, reasonably honest and won’t mess with others unless messed with themselves.

    Law and order is an extremely hard thing to remove.

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  • sold 2 rent 1 says:

    nooneo,

    Read Calleman’s “The Transformation of Consciousness”.

    You cannot reach “global enlightenment” without complete economic collapse.
    There is no change/creativity without chaos

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  • sold 2 rent 1 @ 27

    “You cannot reach “global enlightenment” without complete economic collapse.” – I just dont believe that. I think that ‘enlightenment’ = ‘tolerance’ and through tolerance there will be enlightenment.

    You have to persuade people not to smoke, not take away their fags/weed/smokes.

    And chaos is exactly, and I do mean exactly, what we have now.

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  • #4. G’day P4ac. As well as Gold sovereigns as you rightly pointed out. Good to buy a emergency store for a rainy day. But I have been looking at the sterling silver £2 piece @ £16.95, which in truth is extremely poor value. Also 952/1000. With silver at $17.50 would look at 1oz canadian silver maple C$5 999/1000 Queen’s Head on back, but saw a place selling at $20.50 out of British Columbia. So, may be worth investigating how to purchasing/importing said items. Question is would there be tax on such items? Or if you can get £2 ounce pieces off of coin dealer for a decent price. Just a thought.

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  • last_days_of_disco says:

    Ok, so we are talking about counter-party risk here. Ultimately.

    How many financial institutions are relying on derivatives to actually pay if their bets turn out to be true.
    Basically the problem is if you bet against a position using a derivative, there is you and some else who bets in the opposite direction (the counter party). Will the counter party pay, when they lose big? They should but they may reneg. When that happens, you are basically stuffed.

    Really these things are over played. No government will allow the food supply to collapse. There may be a delay while a rationing system is put into force but I am pretty confident that there are pre-organized plans for handling this. And yes this involves declaring a state of emergency and bringing the police/army out on the streets to prevent chavs going ape. Welcome to the wonderful world of a civilized country. The VIs as we call them, will make sure that doesn’t happen. The thing is going to be getting back the eroded liberties after the dust has settled. Make sure you vote for MPs who care about that sort of stuff.

    Really if your government can’t do these basics are they worthy of the title. Despite all their failings I am pretty sure the Brits are up to this. And we don’t have a bunch of guys hunkered down in bunkers with guns and stuff, so that helps improve things, but the US is a very different model of government and a very different place physically (bigger, etc). Sometimes being a kingdom, has real utility. The monarchy having so much power again will be a pain but hey, its better than the chavs running rampant. Maybe it could have been avoided, but I think we are beyond that point.

    So just chill, the UK is not going to become 28 days later, ok, and houses will still have value here.

    There may be a change of consciousness coming S2R, but its not the one you are hoping for, trust me…

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  • nooneo – corrections, malct does not have any say any more

    my critics have succeeded in getting my password disabled for the fourth and probably final time

    there is no point in commenting if the comments one makes appear when the discussion is over.

    perhaps enlightenment for most will not take place here

    I don’t blame admin, I know they are under pressure to conform.

    p4ac and s2r1, like di and pp generate bizarre diversions and are therefore useful

    me? – I’m too dangerous

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  • ldod @ 29 – Phew!!

    Well said!

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  • 5. denzil said…

    “Those free-thinkers do not need messiahs or nanny-state Govt., they are the independent thinkers and there is plenty on this blog”.

    Agreed. Exactly what makes this the ideal place for the discussion of these issues IMO.

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  • 26. nooneo said…

    “An awful lot of people need leading and as such they can be led to destruction and carnage”.

    Do our leaders diliberately create people who need to be led? Weak people need government. Empowered people need it far less. All this irresposible lending of late (among other things) suggests people cant be trusted to be resposible for themselves. Human nature or engineered attitude?

    Something I think about a lot is to what degree do the powers that be understand our collective psychology and how far can they manipulate the masses. I too have faith in humanity though many studies have shown that people will do the most awful things to each under certain circumstances.

    Personally I call in to question many of the underlying aspects of our culture, a la Alan Watts. For me the question is if they came about ‘naturally’ or were put in place somehow?

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  • For me the question is if they came about ‘naturally’ or were put in place somehow?

    ponerology

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  • last_days_of_disco says:

    @unplugged

    Every government/political movement is trying to do both. Exploit people’s nature (weakness or strengths) to achieve their objectives (they usually consider themselves the good guys — no surprise there). There is the truth (i.e. reality) and the way we describe is (philosophy). The closer our philosophy matches reality, the better off we will be.

    The big question/debate is: How do you view reality, what is truth?

    And that is the age old battle. Figure out the truth, and convince others you are right and then get together enough like minded souls to enforce some basic order around your ideas. The problem with the post-modern/post-Christian types is that they have no answers because they have stopped asking the questions (well really they don’t expect to find answers is more accurate). So they have settled for less than the truth and hence things start sliding horribly into chaos and from their into the arms of despotism. I don’t think the UK is going there, but its up to people like us to prevent that by being involved in our local society and stopping the loony left/right/pinks/greens/etc from making progress on the ground. This is a totally winable battle but we have to insist on being in charge and pushing against the political correctness in millions of practical ways.

    The good news in all of this is that not all people agree with this Voltarian Atheist view of the world and once these basically secular ideas have discredited themselves (similar to what happened with communism), we can return to our more urbane stodgy Christian roots (saving, living within your means, not dressing ostentatiously, etc, etc) and start rebuilding this country into a place where its ok to be English/Scottish/Welsh/Irish again and believe in stuff without being treated like the village idiot. It won’t be as fun as the bubble times but, hey, its sustainable. I mean the bubbles were a blast (dot com was great fun for me at least).

    Cool Britania is history I am sad to say. Blair was fun, but he was really crazy.

    Oh and another thing, houses will be a lot cheaper.

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  • Shame your password has been removed Malct…. your posts of late have been quite reserved.

    I can understand why some feel that some posts are off topic to an extent and might detract from the purpose or aims of the site. But I can also understand why other bloggers attempt to bring certain issues to light and I personally think that, with caution, its the ideal place.

    In my view the HPC site bridges the gap between mainstream news sites and obscure forums, being free from spin while getting a wider audience and publicity. The subject matter and recent turn of economic events gives the site credibilty which should be maintained but I’m not sure censorship can ever be a good thing. Its a difficult balance but by censoring bloggers the site starts on a slippery slope IMO.

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  • planning4acrash says:

    Nah, Malct, I had mine removed about 6 times. This time, I threatened to set up 20 spoof aliases, letting them know, and this is the truth, that I don’t care much for the name. S2R, you should be careful with your terminology. We don’t have Capitalism. Fiat currency is a trademark of command and control economics. It is the hallmark of Fascism, Communism, and the hybrid being developed in China and Russia, planned to be exported to a shore near you!

    About my choices? I’m not talking about a bit land holding, but, I would feel very safe in an African Village with a smallholding, say, an acre. I’ve lived in African villages before, and find the people far nicer and accommodating than anything in the UK. In a crisis, their communities actually come together. We, no doubt, would just start looting, then fighting, then, well, I don’t want to know, and, just look at the police state aparatus put in place by Blair and Bush. Doesn’t bear thinking of. 42 days detention, in a hole, with no trial and jury, from a government that doesn’t object to waterboarding, the admission of “evidence” from torture in trials, and who has done naff all to shut Guantanamo Bay.

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  • Too far fetched. Anyway, if the economic systems fail, then gangs will take over the streets, they’re the only ones with guns, that are unscrupulous enough to use them at will. A house in the countryside away from the cities with a large veg patch would be my best bet at survival. Let the city potatoes sort each other out. Leave ’em to it.

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  • @ last_days_of_disco

    I agree with much that you say. For me solution seems to be in the need for people en masse to realise and shift away from certain views of reality and the way the world works such as the ego, competition with and exploitation of each other and nature, natural selection (which we decide), power and so on.

    Its hard if not impossible to see how this will pan out. I don’t think things will revert to the way they were in times past. I’d like to think we are finally on the way to seeing ourselves/the masses becoming enlighted, allowing us to empower ourselves, perhaps due mainly to the internet.
    A general change/evolution of consciousness perhaps, as S2R1 has suggested? Maybe we can finally all grow up?

    The nets certainly changed the way I (and others I know) view the world. Right now some of the main the issues for me are what to pay attention to, how to evaluate information, what to trust and what action to take. I think (and hope) these could soon be key issues for many… as opposed to a relative few who have been exposed to these concepts through education, intrigue or otherwise.

    Having said that, with caution I think its important for people to entertain the possibilities raised by some of the more ‘far out’ ‘conspiracy’ ideas for not to do so would also be to stop asking questions as you metioned.

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  • Just recently I have noticed loads of dome shaped cameras popping up everywhere. Additional to the common types. They are all along the A1 for example and also in my home town. Anyone else seen these? Maybe I just didn’t notice them before?

    I can’t help but wonder whether the government might be planning something or expecting some degree of unrest in the coming years. Not wanting to sound gloomy, and its just one view but it seems that the potential exists for a total breakdown of society. Plan for the worst and hope for (and aspire to) the best as someone said.

    Without wanting to state the obvious, many social/economic changes/policies, both past and prestent involve sending us down path from which there is no easy way back if the change turns out to be undesirable. ie. We may specialise or centralise and be more efficient as a whole but this also stops us from being self sufficient. I guess the question (assuming for now a fairly benign un-ponerological Government) is how far down the path do we go/have we gone and what (possibly costly and hence undesirable) failsafes are in place?

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  • last_days_of_disco says:

    I don’t think that things will be the way they were, I am not nostalgic for some golden age. But I do see things in our past that would be great to have back. For instance an identity as an Englishman would be nice!

    And not one that makes me into some effeminate guy with a floppy fringe who is basically a failure in every area of life but chicks dig me because I am so understanding (but that doesn’t help because he likes boys). 😛 We basically suck right now. And I didn’t sign up for that.

    I am thinking Master and Commander (acted ironically by an Australian). Jack Aubrey for me is the kind of guy that I am much more comfortable being associated with. Yeah, its a violent guy thing, deal with it. And if someone says the words “social exclusion” to me one more time I am going to explode.

    Oh, and we should treat women as the weaker sex instead of pretending we are all the same, which is a load of rubbish (that guy that punched that girl over for spraying his shirt with juice is the prefect example of a feminist — he treated her the same way he would treat a guy who did that). We all know that was wrong, but we don’t know why because our heads are so messed up.

    If S2Rs change of consciousness involves rolling back all the PC rubbish that is continually forced down our throats by an army women in business suits, then I am all for it. Where do I sign up?

    Somehow I think what S2R has in mind is a more extreme version of the feminism/hippy/lefty/health-and-safety/eco-piety we have already had rammed down our throats which to me sounds like more of the same, not anything different (except in S2R’s world we will all willingly roll over and do the “right thing” — BWAHAHAHAHA).

    And to link to back to the house prices, I think that philosophy/view of reality has to take responsibility for the housing bubble, because it was the environment in which it grew and developed. The “poor things” view of banking standards, lend them the money the “poor things” they need it. Totally feminized view of the world — old Bill “ruled by his wife” Clinton started it in the US. Guys are tougher than women and we are way more cynical, and that is what makes us better at reducing the number of credit bubbles that happen. Some women are the exception to this, and to them I apologize, but the reality is on average guys are just tougher.

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  • planning4acrash says:

    Unplugged, so say the MOD.

    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=S2xctu-Vg8g

    The Ministry of Defence (MoD) released a report that predicted 30 years of riots – basically beginning now. They didn’t say what the riots would be about, but they did say that they are prepared for it.

    Alan Watt explained that the riots are obviously to come about due to the engineered increases in the price of food and fuel.

    April 13, 2007 Alan Watt Blurb (i.e. Educational Talk)
    “Pathocrats’ Conspiracy AGENDA for Upcoming Generation” (from Ministry of Defence)”
    mp3 – http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.co
    transcript – http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.co

    Here is the article from The Guardian:
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/200

    And here is the UK Department Of Defence Document “DCDC Global Strategic Trends Programme 2007-2036” (PDF – 6.11MB):
    http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com/articles.html
    (DCDC stands for Development, Concepts and Doctrine Centre)

    This Channel 4 News report from June 2008 shows that the riots predicted by the MoD have already begun, and they’re only going to get worse because the powers that be want them to get worse.
    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Vc3j8BFQy9E

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  • planning4acrash says:

    Oops, I meant to say, that was a response to Last Days of Disco!

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