Thursday, April 3, 2008

More corruption exposed

Bertie Ahern resigns as Ireland's Prime Minister

Bertie Ahern has announced his resignation as Ireland's Prime Minister following sleaze allegations centring on a series of allegedly secret payments that he received from businessmen in the 1990s.

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12 thoughts on “More corruption exposed

  • sold 2 rent 1 says:

    Yesterday the ml-implode.com site, The Mortgage Lender Implode-O-Meter, got mentioned.
    I think we should be monitoring The Power Elite Implode-O-Meter too.

    If Calleman/Lungold’s model of “fifth night” destruction is correct then we should see quite a few of these guys take a tumble over the next few months.
    Remember ETHICS is overcoming POWER.

    Mugabe is clearly next on the list to go.
    Are Bush and Brown worried yet? They should be.

    But top of the list is the David v Goliath story – The Tibetan unrest in China.
    This really is the headline act.
    The Dali Lama of Tibet representing one of the most ethical and spiritual cultures versus China, the king of repression.

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  • Happy Mondays says:

    What a tangled web they weeve…Is everyone who has some sort of so called authority corrupt, they just keep coming, with a few more big surprizes yet to be exposed,….

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  • Ahern should have learned from Blair – resign first and THEN take the sleazy payments.

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  • Sorry S2R, I’m not qualified to comment on Calleman/Lungold or indeed Bertie Ahearn (Irish politics has always been rotten though).

    But the widespread, uncritical support for the Dalai Lama in the UK and especially the US does annoy me.

    You don’t have to be a friend of totalitarian China to find him suspect. There are many who don’t think he comes across as spiritual at all. And as far as the recent events go, many ethnic Chinese outside China who are no friend to Mr Hu still believe the Dalai Lama is at least in some measure behind the bloodshed (which started, don’t forget, as a riot against ethinc Han shopkeepers, many of whom were killed).

    And while the deep spiritual & esoteric teachings of Tibet (Book of the Dead and all that) certainly are interesting, in the brief period between the implosion (to use the word of the week) of the Qing dynasty in 1911, and military re-conquest of Tibet by Mao’s forces in 1949, Tibetan society was far from a peaceful utopia. Indeed it was arguably a fairly standard, ‘traditional’ non-democratic, authoritarian regime run by the usual self-serving elite.

    Let’s not uncritically accept the myths here. Chinese supression of the Tibetan religion is certainly wrong and it’s certainly true they have behaved badly, but their political claim to the area is solid, backed by international treaty and is actually not even in dispute by the Dalai Lama. They are not leaving any time soon.

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  • more dissent s2r1

    Dali Lama says Iraq War May Be Justified
    By Scott Lindlaw 11/09/2003 At 00:01

    The exiled Tibetan leader and Nobel Peace Prize winner said some wars, including the Korean War and World War II, helped “protect the rest of civilization, democracy.”

    http://india.indymedia.org/en/2003/09/7833.shtml

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  • An Bearin Bui says:

    Bertie Ahern is pulling a Tony Blair and getting out before the going gets rough so someone else can take the rap for the housing bubble’s demise: “It was all going fine when I left, lads”. Meanwhile Bertie will secure himself a cushy job in Europe somewhere and tout his success in bringing about the Peace Agreement in Northern Ireland, just like Tony Blair did. The rats are all deserting the sinking ships that they punched holes in…

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  • sold 2 rent 1 says:

    montesquieu/malct,

    Interesting ideas about the Dali Lama not being what they first appear to be.
    If this is the case, can anybody in a position of power or leadership be anything other than corrupt?

    So is the real story about China/Tibet about the struggling masses of all ethnic groups versus the power elites which include the Chinese authorities and the Dali Lama.

    Have I got this correct?

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  • 2. Happy Mondays said…
    “What a tangled web they weeve…Is everyone who has some sort of so called authority corrupt, they just keep coming, with a few more big surprizes yet to be exposed,….”

    Unfortunately all the evidence seems to be pointing to a great big YES. I am now convinced this is just a small part of a coordinated whole system. It would be impossible to think of these examples as isolated. These apparent surprises are like haemorages from wounds caused by those that try to seek the truth. I am sure of this.
    Many logical and educated people can see what is happening but their ‘logic’ does not allow them to accept the ever increasing evidence that such an organised system exists, and for what purpose? The real question for each individual is : How deep do you want look? This can be off-putting to all and I am no exception.
    I don’t want to instigate another great debate like we recently had, as it exhausted me just reading the posts. (Mind you I learned a lot and easily distinguished the superficial from the meaningful, and it must be good for the Site.) However as every question relating to HPC is posted it cannot simply be answered by a few sums and yes/no answers. All would soon be bored and give up. Life is just not like that.
    The relevance being that so much affects HPC in reality.

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  • sold 2 rent 1 says:

    An Bearin Bui,

    “Bertie Ahern is pulling a Tony Blair and getting out before the going gets rough so someone else can take the rap for the housing bubble’s demise”

    Me thinks an Irish bank could be going down shortly.
    That will cause havoc within the EU as German taxpayers won’t want to foot the bailout bill.

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  • @S2R1:
    The Chinese Government has given Tibet more autonomy than it grants the larger part of China (=not hard). It’s not a strictly an ethnic issue, but what’s happening is that it’s harder to keep the people down in non-Han areas than in the Han-dominated ones (which is more than 90% of China) as they generally have less to lose and feel less connected to a genuine feeling of national purpose. It’s part of the Chinese mindset to want to have control over religion, hence the conflict in particular in Tibet but also in muslim regions.

    My sense (having spent time there) is that better off city dwellers – maybe half of the population, mainly in the key growth areas (predominantly on the great river deltas and the coasts) are very reluctant to rock the boat. The cultural revolution is firmly in people’s minds and they know how ruthless the government can be. So on the whole they are quite happy to go shopping and shut up about the bad stuff.

    The big trouble looming for these people, overwhelmingly Han, is not about individual rights, but about environmental policy, growing inequality and to some extent a weakening of the connection between Chinese people and the ruling elite. There are some limited political mechanisms for dealing with this (don’t underestimate the responsiveness of the party), there is a genuine dialogue with the people that goes on through a massive party edifice, just not one we would recognise in the west as democractic. And it certainly isn’t enough to reassure people sitting outside under threat from what is still a totalitarian state (eg, people in Taiwan).

    Elsewhere, especially with ethnic groups who haven’t benefitted but only get the downsides, there seems more willingness to show anger at the government. But this is marginal in the overall scheme of things (China is home to a fifth of humanity after all).

    But Tibet aside, most Chinese people (and they mean it!) will tell you that for all the party’s faults, it genuinely cares about the fate of China and its people and honestly wants to somehow create a more equal society. Since Deng came to power in ’78, people’s lives in general have got better, the mass punishments and injustices of the Cultural Revolution have largely gone away, there is growing wealth and prosperity, and they are proud of what has been built.

    The main issue is that, having gone through so many horrific convulsions in the past 150 years since the opium wars (when we forced them to buy our drugs, and then to open up their ports for international trade) there is resolutely no appetite – as in, Zero – among this huge majority for a new round of full-scale political upheaval. Hence the failure of 1989/Tianenmen. But if the economic miracle turns sour, watch out. The other 50% of have-nots and never-will-haves might well have their day. Then where will the world be, if we’ve outsourced everything and don’t know how to make stuff any more?

    As for the Dalai Lama he runs a Government in Exile which the Indians were happy to tolerate for a long time but increasingly aren’t any more. This is an absolutist monarchy, a court-in-exile, essentially. There’s no question that the Elite label applies here – absolutely it does.

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  • sold 2 rent 1 says:

    montesquieu,

    Thanks for that.

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