Wednesday, Aug 30, 2006

Business leaders seek 'unlimited immigration' from new EU states

The Independent: Business leaders seek 'unlimited immigration' from new EU states

The leaders of Britain's biggest businesses employing millions of people have called on the Government to allow unlimited immigration from Bulgaria and Romania when the two former Eastern Bloc states join the European Union next year.
Seems like big business loves the cheap labour and low interest rates

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1. Bloody Annoyed said...

I don't know how to do this but if there isn't a joint effort across governments to reign in the multinationals most of us are going to be running our arses off and work all day for a bowl of gruel. That's keeping labour costs down.The trickle down theory is absolute bollocks.Bizarrely our system based on greed has made the "haves" so insecure and miserble that they now need botulism injected into there face to make something even resembling a smile and the "have nots" miserable for obvious reasons. I just don't get what is so great about a cheap burger flipper.I would rather pay a fiver for a burger knowing the said flipper could have a reasonably comfortable existence.It would also be an full proof way of myself and others becoming fat bastards. I am aware that this is a rant but I am sick to death of cost. What happened to value and concensus.

Wednesday, August 30, 2006 01:56PM Report Comment

2. uncle chris said...

Well what do you expect, business leaders couldn't give a stuff about the people within this country. It's all about their own bank balances at the end of the day - nothing more and nothing less. Sadly we currently live in a world where greed is thought of by some as a positive trait and business leaders didn't get to where they are without a good sprinkling of it. I remember a time when we spent the summer holidays picking strawberries and potatoes, and gathering in field upon field of straw bales. Now kids sit on their backsides playing on the x-box and gradually getting fatter and learning nothing more than how to consume - again to the benefit of businesses. God forbid that running the country was left entirely up to the business world. What we need is a revolution in our way of thinking, not mass immigration with its inherent potential for civil war. Hopefully a good deep recession will give us the good kick up the backside we all need.

Wednesday, August 30, 2006 02:43PM Report Comment

3. inbreda said...

Even in an extreme situation of low wages because of immigrant labour, this will keep house price rises to a minimum (income multiples are already at a maximum given historically low interest rates), and all those people who got Interest only mortgages will still have huge debt in 30 years time (no erosion of debt by inflation). Either way you look at it, it's a precarious time to buy. So many things are stacked against house prices, you'd have to be a gullible VI believer to make the jump now.

Wednesday, August 30, 2006 04:23PM Report Comment

4. Retiredbanker said...

Bloody Annoyed-

I have never been convinced by the "trickle down" theory so beloved by Margaret T.

It didn't work in Victorian times, and I don't see it working now.

Thanks to Maggie abolishing exchange control regulations the rich have been able to transfer their
wealth abroad, and have effectively divorced their economic fate from that of this country.

Wednesday, August 30, 2006 05:45PM Report Comment

5. Ticktock said...

-God forbid that running the country was left entirely up to the business world.

Unfortunately Chris, that is exactly what has happened. This is why things are the way they are.

Anti-Globalisation resistance is not random unprovoked anarchy, but a reaction to the rule of global capital. It is not the first war of its kind, and won't be the last either, but the war is only just beginning, and unfortunately will involve every last one of us taking sides.

Wednesday, August 30, 2006 09:39PM Report Comment

6. indiablue19 said...

Apparently the business tycoons advocating for this don't get out much. It's not a case of "picking and choosing" the parts of an open market that Britain would like. Britain can't bear the traffic, not practically and not emotionally.

Growing up in the States I heard stories all my life from relatives who emigrated to the US from Britain and the Irish Republic. About twenty years ago I started visiting the British Isles to see these places firsthand and I really enjoyed what I saw. The atmosphere was always entirely friendly and welcoming. What a shock for our family to emigrate to the UK five years ago and find nothing but hostility. It was so bad in England that we finally settled in Scotland. But not much better here.

My husband is born and raised British [Lancashire] and worked and paid taxes here all his life and he's painted with the same brush because his children and I have American accents. He's angry with the people-- his people supposedly -- every day. He was never treated shabbily in the USA like we are here, and he is embarrassed to have brought us here.

But I truly think he's wasting his breath. Naturally one wonders -- what happened between the 1990s and now? There's no mystery. The British people are fed up. They can't get services and jobs for themselves. They're not inherently nasty; but they've turned nasty on a steady diet of broken promises and hardships. They're angry at Margaret Thatcher for trying to be the next Ronald Reagan. And at Tony Blair for trying to be GWB. The US and the UK have absolutely nothing in common structurely; no common political or economic background nor industrial and natural resources. This idea of imitation just doesn't work. And this misplaced emphasis and failed emulation has become a source of hatred toward Americans by the British people. I know that Americans who come here now are shocked. My own relatives who have visited are just plain depressed to witness what I've described to them in letters over the past five years. And, sadly, what I remember from many past visits here is that Britain was reasonably fine the way it was! A unique and idyllic, friendly, quiet, industrious and pleasant place.

Although our family do all we can to be contributors as we now live here-- and we do work hard and pay our own freight -- I'd never have guessed as a visitor to my ancestral home over so many years, what it would be like to actually move here. As a family, we are considering all other options to move on because this country obviously is simply too small to accept more and wishes we would leave. There's nowhere to put more people; there are no jobs to offer. No schools, no homes, no hospitals. As people who had a lifelong affinity, wanting to come here and feeling the UK and Ireland were our "roots" we don't feel welcome at all and by now the bad memories and impressions far outweight the good. I know Brits in the States don't have this problem. But then the States are enormous in every dimension, and find the odd foreign person fascinating, while the UK is lilliputian in size and just sick to death of everybody else.

Wednesday, August 30, 2006 10:46PM Report Comment

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