Vespasian Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 Good thread, can this be pinned at the top as an important topic? don't forget Propertypin, concerning RoI http://www.thepropertypin.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 Another Irish property crash forum. http://www.irishpropertycrash.com/dnn/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azogar Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Nationwide Historical Data: http://www.nationwide.co.uk/hpi/historical.htm need excel or open office open office is free and available here: http://www.openoffice.org/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azogar Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 Addendum to above: Doccyboy raised questions regarding the Nationwide data yesterday and whilst I cannot answer DBs specific question I thought it best to list the accompanying information in the last quarterly release, Q4 2007 and the methodology from their website. Quarterly Release Notes: 1) Indices and average prices for the UK and the regions are produced using Nationwide's updated mix adjusted House Price Methodology which was introduced with effect from the first quarter of 1995. All changes are nominal and do not allow for inflation. The methodology can be found on our website: http://www.nationwide.co.uk/hpi/ 2) Price indices are seasonally adjusted using the US Bureau of the Census X12 method. Quarterly series are seasonally adjusted using data since 1973. The seasonal adjustment is recalculated quarterly and may lead to revisions. 3) The price changes in the sub regional, and local authority tables are based on the price per unit area of the properties in the sample. Samples are smaller than at a regional level and figures should not be relied upon for any critical application. Figures are not directly comparable with mix-adjusted indices. 4) The Nationwide House Price Index is prepared from information which we believe is collated with care, but no representation is made as to its accuracy or completeness. We reserve the right to vary our methodology and to edit or discontinue the whole or any part of the Index at any time, for regulatory or other reasons. Persons seeking to place reliance on the Index for their own or third party commercial purposes do so entirely at their own risk. Methodology There are several methods that could be used to calculate the trend in house prices, ranging from a simple average of purchase price to a statistical method of averaging. Then there is the matter of making sure that the different mixture of properties sold in each month does not give a false impression of the actual change in house prices. The next few sections explain the way we do this as well as providing some background to the Nationwide house price series and the current methodology that we employ to calculate average house prices. Decorative Image: For Sale Sign Background to Nationwide House Price Information Nationwide Building Society has a long history of recording and analysing house price data and has published average house price information since 1952. The following provides a short chronology of publish series and developments in Nationwide's methodology of calculating average house prices: 1952 - Annual publication of house price data (Some indices back to 1946). 1974 - Quarterly data is published for the first time. 1989 - Development of new house price methodology. A statistical 'regression' technique was introduced under guidance of 'Fleming and Nellis' (Loughborough University and Cranfield Institute of Technology). 1993 - The house price system was further improved following publication of the Census 1991 data. Frequency for UK series increased to monthly. The monthly figure measures the mix adjusted average house price for all houses in the UK. Every quarter the Nationwide also publishes a more detailed breakdown of house prices. These include both UK and 13 regional estimates for: * 4 types of house (Detached, semi-detached, terraced and flats); * 2 types of buyer (First time buyer and Former owner occupiers); * 3 property ages (New, modern and older). *This makes a total of 140 separate series, all of which are published in our Data Download Data - source, cleaning and sample size Source All house price information is derived using Nationwide mortgage data. This data is extracted monthly for mortgages that are at the approvals stage and after the corresponding building survey has been completed. Approvals data is used as opposed to mortgage completions since it should give an earlier indication of current trends in prices in the housing market. Cleaning Nationwide house price series utilise only residential property information. In addition, properties that are not typical and may distort the series are also removed from the data set. Therefore, the following criteria is used to select which properties to include: * House purchases - remortgages and further advances are excluded * Properties sold at true market prices - right to buy sales at discounted price are excluded * Floor size has to be within specified limits for a give type of property - e.g. a detached house has to have at least 400 sq. ft floor area Sample Size The number of cases that are used to calculate the average price for a given month will depend on the volume of monthly mortgage activity and out of these the cases that meet the criteria in the cleaning process. The monthly sample size will therefore vary from month to month. Nationwide has sufficient sample size to produce a representative house price series. N.B. Net lending figures quoted at our half yearly and annual results are not a guide to our sample size. Sample size is based on the number of new loans we write i.e. the amount of gross lending for house purchase(remortgage cases are excluded). The Nationwide Building Society is the 4th largest mortgage lender in the UK by stock. This allows us to be confident that the series based on Nationwide mortgage data is representative of the whole house market. The quarterly UK series for all houses uses 3 months of data and hence a much larger sample than at the month. The samples sizes for the other quarterly series will depend on what it is they are measuring, for example the series for first time buyers only considers properties being brought by first time buyers and hence this will have a smaller sample size than that used for the whole of the UK. It is for this reason that detailed breakdown of house prices are produced quarterly. Mix Adjustment Process Why Mix Adjust? The purpose of mix adjustment is to simply isolate pure prices changes. The simple example below illustrates how the changes in the mixture of properties sold each month could give a misleading picture of what is actually happening to house prices. The set of properties sold from month to month will vary by location and design etc. and some adjustment is necessary to make sure all of these do not give a false impression of the actual changes to house prices. A mix-adjusted or 'standardised' index is not affected by such changes because the relative weight given to each characteristic of a property in the 'mix' (or 'basket', to use an analogy with retail prices) is fixed from one period to the next. Simple example - Benefits of mix adjustment Suppose that the price of both detached houses and flats increased at the same rate for five periods, with flats being cheaper. Further suppose that the proportion of flats and detached sold in each period varied considerably, as the table shows. The simple average of both kinds of properties will be influenced by the proportion of each property sold. In periods 3 and 4 the simple average shows a decrease, whereas the actual prices of both increased! The mix adjusted average uses a consistent measure of the proportion of each type of property and is able to better reflect the true change in prices. Time Period P1 P2 P3 P4 P5 % Flats 50 30 70 30 70 % Detached 50 70 30 70 30 The mix-adjusted price represents the price for an average or 'typical' house. This should not be confused with the average price of all houses. The latter is usually higher because even though there are fewer more expensive houses sold, their price is such that they bias the simple average to be greater than the price of the typical house. Calculating the price of a typical house Calculation The price of a property will depend on the characteristics of the property. These characteristics could include physical properties of the house, like its design, but other aspects such as the type of neighbourhood the house is located in will also contribute to the price someone is willing to pay. Using mortgage data, the Nationwide house price system can relate all the observed combinations of these factors and relate them to the price of which the house was sold for. From this, the model can estimate how much on average a house would cost given a set values for these characteristics, in particular a set of characteristics that describes the 'typical' house. This typical house does not physically exist, it is an 'average' house across all the characteristics that the model uses. This method is repeated on data sets at different points in time and changes in the price of this typical house reflect only the price changes over the same time periods, and not the mixture of properties sold in the current or pervious periods. Factors that affect the price of a house The following are the items that are used to describe the characteristics of a property. There is no set order that these contribute most to the price of the house, although UK location, the type of neighbourhood and house size are consistently the three most important followed by the design of the house. * UK Location, i.e. part of country * Type of neighbourhood. The Nationwide index uses an established demographic system that classifies areas in the UK into 56 categories based on the type of people that live there, two examples include retirement and council areas. * Floor size * Property design (detached house, semi-detached house, terraced house, bungalow, flat, etc.) * Tenure (freehold/leasehold/feudal) except for flats, which are nearly all leasehold * Number of bathrooms (1 or more than 1) * Type of central heating (full, part or none) * Type of garage (single garage, double garage or none) * Number of bedrooms (1,2,3,4 or more than 4) * Whether property is new or not Seasonal Adjustment House prices are slightly seasonal - that is, prices are higher at certain times of year irrespective of the overall trend. This tends to be in spring and summer, when more buyers are in the market and hence sellers do not need to discount prices so heavily, in order to achieve a sale. The effect on prices over the year is of the order of +/- 2%; however this is much smaller than the change in volume of property transactions. The seasonal effect is estimated twice a year using established statistical methods. For the monthly house price index where changes can be as little as 0.1%, seasonal factors are important. The Nationwide therefore produce a seasonally adjusted series for UK house prices which seeks to remove this effect so that the overall trend in prices is more readily apparent. Seasonal adjustment shows that June is generally the strongest month for house prices (raw prices are 1.3% above their SA level) and January is the weakest (raw prices are 1.9% below their SA level). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azogar Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 (edited) With regard to your question yesterday Doccyboy maybe(?) this is the answer: 2) Price indices are seasonally adjusted using the US Bureau of the Census X12 method. Quarterly series are seasonally adjusted using data since 1973. The seasonal adjustment is recalculated quarterly and may lead to revisions. Edited March 1, 2008 by prophet-profit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted March 3, 2008 Share Posted March 3, 2008 Have you seen this website before? http://www.irishpropertywatch.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monto Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 When I applied for a job in Northern Ireland, two things surprised me. One was the insanely high house prices (there really should be a much higher price differential between Windsors Belfast and Berkshire...). The other was the equal opportunities question on community background, which asked for your school of origin if you declined to give your community of origin One positive consequence of this nosiness for off-island incomers is that the Northern Ireland Neighbourhood Information Service (NINIS) is far more useful (though less pretty) than upmystreet - it gives info on percentage of renters and OOs, relative measures of crime, environmental quality, employment and education levels, car ownership and use, and allows you to map all sorts of indicators. I use Firefox and add-ons called 'Add to search bar' and 'Context search' to bring up neighbourhood data by right-clicking on a postcode. The site was down for a couple of months, but now it's available again. Also, Noise Northern Ireland, the local response to a recent European directive on environmental and noise pollution, is full of surprises, with good - if slow - mapping. Oh, and though upmystreet is crap for NI, aboutmyplace is a bit better. At least it has a decent interface to Windows Live Local's bird's-eye-views. Still don't know if I'm moving to NI - I might find out next week... even if I don't end up 'round Belfast, I'll be moving house soon, and I've learned a lot on the NI HPC forum. Hope this post helps someone (by way of returning the favour) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul65 Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 I can't believe we forgot to add the Property-Bee tool in here. http://www.property-bee.com/ Remember for the newbies that you'll need to be running Firefox browser at the same time as it is a plugin for that browser only. You can download Firefox here: http://www.mozilla-europe.org/en/firefox/ Happy bee'ing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 To see if a house is on a flood zone click on the grey button near the bottom of this page; http://www.riversagencyni.gov.uk/index/sta...+Rivers+%26+Sea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subby Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Titanic Quarter discussion www.phpbb88.com/tq -for owners or anyone interested in the Titanic Quarter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr slump Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/house-price-crash-calculator crash calculator estimates previous prices Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Boy Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 Nationwide - Regional Quarterly Indices (Post '73) click here. Some people may not have a spread sheet program, so here is the data going back to 1990. Nationwide - Northern Ireland quarterly house prices. Q1 1990 29985 Q2 1990 29280 Q3 1990 27668 Q4 1990 29674 Q1 1991 30490 Q2 1991 30626 Q3 1991 31669 Q4 1991 30808 Q1 1992 31054 Q2 1992 32284 Q3 1992 33280 Q4 1992 33603 Q1 1993 34574 Q2 1993 36328 Q3 1993 36564 Q4 1993 35837 Q1 1994 37942 Q2 1994 37230 Q3 1994 39858 Q4 1994 38773 Q1 1995 37889 Q2 1995 40789 Q3 1995 40808 Q4 1995 42082 Q1 1996 41610 Q2 1996 45068 Q3 1996 46222 Q4 1996 47321 Q1 1997 48052 Q2 1997 50732 Q3 1997 51962 Q4 1997 52447 Q1 1998 53456 Q2 1998 57005 Q3 1998 54869 Q4 1998 57984 Q1 1999 59179 Q2 1999 60972 Q3 1999 64369 Q4 1999 61946 Q1 2000 65462 Q2 2000 70557 Q3 2000 70056 Q4 2000 71238 Q1 2001 72797 Q2 2001 76376 Q3 2001 76635 Q4 2001 73697 Q1 2002 76074 Q2 2002 82548 Q3 2002 83152 Q4 2002 85289 Q1 2003 86655 Q2 2003 90265 Q3 2003 92999 Q4 2003 94028 Q1 2004 97303 Q2 2004 103238 Q3 2004 107509 Q4 2004 110925 Q1 2005 109949 Q2 2005 117149 Q3 2005 119795 Q4 2005 125585 Q1 2006 129321 Q2 2006 146367 Q3 2006 159859 Q4 2006 181031 Q1 2007 203815 Q2 2007 225447 Q3 2007 227970 Q4 2007 224816 Q1 2008 196892 Q2 2008 183476 Q3 2008 159970 Q4 2008 118525 Q1 2009 112986 Q2 2009 112348 Q3 2009 116051 Q4 2009 116151 Q1 2010 115545 Q2 2010 119057 Q3 2010 117234 Q4 2010 116836 Q1 2011 113863 Q2 2011 117691 Q3 2011 116610 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenzoil Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 BOI/UU Quarterly price archive back to 2003 http://www.bankofireland.co.uk/bank-of-ire...-index-archive/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
getdoon_weebobby Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 http://lpsni.gov.uk/vListDCV/search.asp?submit=form RV website new link to get to it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul65 Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 University of Ulster Quarterly House Price Index Transaction Levels since 1988 (Some gaps exist) Data Source: University of Ulster, Centre for Research on Property Planning Graph here Qtr and Year No. of Transactions Q3 1988 1858 Q4 1988 1387 Q1 1989 1297 Q2 1989 1313 Q3 1989 1274 Q4 1989 1323 Q1 1990 1467 Q2 1990 1188 Q3 1990 1393 Q4 1990 1512 Q1 1991 1348 Q2 1991 1384 Q3 1991 1194 Q4 1991 1273 Q1 1992 1079 Q2 1992 1172 Q3 1992 1222 Q4 1992 1151 Q1 1993 1595 Q2 1993 1508 Q3 1993 1634 Q4 1993 1668 Q1 1994 1491 Q2 1994 1521 Q3 1994 1534 Q4 1994 1678 Q1 1995 1629 Q2 1995 Q3 1995 1814 Q4 1995 1690 Q1 1996 1715 Q2 1996 1989 Q3 1996 1739 Q4 1996 1625 Q1 1997 1892 Q2 1997 2018 Q3 1997 1979 Q4 1997 1922 Q1 1998 1875 Q2 1998 2185 Q3 1998 1899 Q4 1998 1854 Q1 1999 1662 Q2 1999 Q3 1999 2061 Q4 1999 1773 Q1 2000 1769 Q2 2000 2114 Q3 2000 2040 Q4 2000 1847 Q1 2001 1922 Q2 2001 1922 Q3 2001 1961 Q4 2001 2111 Q1 2002 2202 Q2 2002 Q3 2002 Q4 2002 Q1 2003 2089 Q2 2003 2600 Q3 2003 2575 Q4 2003 2492 Q1 2004 1921 Q2 2004 2551 Q3 2004 2102 Q4 2004 2457 Q1 2005 2037 Q2 2005 2461 Q3 2005 2772 Q4 2005 2503 Q1 2006 2166 Q2 2006 2283 Q3 2006 2291 Q4 2006 2525 Q1 2007 2134 Q2 2007 2120 Q3 2007 1480 Q4 2007 1663 Q1 2008 893 Q2 2008 1044 Q3 2008 670 Q4 2008 704 Q1 2009 692 Q2 2009 950 Q3 2009 716 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BelfastVI Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 We are now discovering that the figures shown by the UUJ are their sample size and are not the actual number of transactions. A more accurate table would be the Council of Mortgage Lenders table on the number of loan for the purchase of property below. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Boy Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 Office of National Statistics - income reports. The Annual Survey of Hours and Earnings (ASHE) provides information about the levels, distribution and make-up of earnings and hours paid for employees within industries, occupations and regions. http://www.statistics.gov.uk/StatBase/Product.asp?vlnk=13101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldeagle09 Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 Further statistics on HPI for Northern Ireland re January 2010 (-13.7% compared to Jan 09) Out of kilter with rest of UK http://www.communities.gov.uk/publications/housing/hpi012010 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Boy Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 I was looking for the Nationwide data for Northern Ireland and could not find it. So here is a link to the Nationwide website... http://www.nationwide.co.uk/hpi/datadownload/data_download.htm Click on 'Regional Quarterly Indices (Post '73)' Then scroll right for Northern Ireland data. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
getdoon_weebobby Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 an entire site dedicated to receiveship jobs being undertaken by Colliers. http://www.colliers-receivers.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azogar Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 I was looking for the Nationwide data for Northern Ireland and could not find it. So here is a link to the Nationwide website... http://www.nationwide.co.uk/hpi/historical.htm Click on 'Regional Quarterly Indices (Post '73)' Then scroll right for Northern Ireland data. i posted these links (+ methodologies) on this thread in 2008. I still do not fully understand why they were removed - apparently someone objected Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azogar Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 (edited) I've set them visible again PP -- there were complaints that this thread be purely for links to sites and not reports or comments. Here's some good charts comparing NI to other UK regions for different criteria: http://www.bustbubbles.com/charts/ edit - typo edit - removed unnecessary rant, apologies to BelfastVI Edited December 13, 2010 by p.p. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shotoflight Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 I can't believe we forgot to add the Property-Bee tool in here. http://www.property-bee.com/ Remember for the newbies that you'll need to be running Firefox browser at the same time as it is a plugin for that browser only. You can download Firefox here: http://www.mozilla-europe.org/en/firefox/ Happy bee'ing. Anyone having diffs with the bee on property news. Still have toolbar etc but all histories gone from yesterday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sure thing! Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Anyone having diffs with the bee on property news. Still have toolbar etc but all histories gone from yesterday? Don't think it's related but just noticed the loss of changes being displayed in the search results, they are there in the individual entry still but makes finding recent changes at a glance harder. Think they have changed the site a little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Boy Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Found this page on the DETI website. Northern Ireland hours and earning going back to 1997. Could be useful for comparing current house prices and incomes with years gone by. http://www.detini.gov.uk/deti-stats-index/stats-surveys/stats-hours-and-earnings.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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