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I'm just happy to see the Tories finally making some sort of assault on Brown's reckless debt explosion. They've been too quiet for too long.

What will change under the Tories? Hopefully they'll do what they did last time, and set interest rates to a level at which over-indebted assholes start feeling the pinch. Then maybe ordinary people can afford to buy houses at sensible prices.

Everything else that's f**ked will, as usual, be overlooked. After all, fixing anything is probably too much hard work for someone who has worked their way up to a management role. But I'll settle for affordable houses.

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They did nothing to stop the debt madness

I remember when we got a an answer from Dav on his "Ask Dave" website. He thought there was nothing wrong with the current house prices and nothing any Gov could do about it!

Still I'll be voting for them, at least they are saying the right things now; and more importantly they are not NuLabour.

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This is so far off it's untrue.

Anyone who comes in now, is going to have to make some seriously unpopular decisions and the pathetic greed of the British public is not going to like it.

The New Labour chav vote will be very hard hit. The thought of having to work for a living and not getting free subsidies is going to make them revert to type and bay for a socialist gravy train.

I fear the UK is beyond help, fashioned in general by a public which is simply too lazy and idle to want anything other than the easy life, no government can rescue this ship now it's been allowed to sink too far under and the correction is going to take a massive effort by ALL, something which I fear we are incapable of doing any longer.

It's all very well for the Tory Toff To$$pot to spout away like this but does anyone actually believe he would change anything for the better?

A resounding NO is my response.

Look! For Fekk's sake. When you see that creep Osborne cavorting around with that viper Mandelson and a Rothschild on a yacht in Corfu, (probably taxpayer funded), you'd think people would put 2+2 together, No?

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Glad Cameron has said it... finally.

Though to be fair they have been going on about debt for some months now.

All politicians are a disappointment these days. We have never needed a charismatic, no-nonsense leader more.

The Tories messed up, they chose a Blair clone, they also got totally sucked into the green stuff, took their eye off the ball as regards the economy and the huge debt bubble that was building.

However, we simply as a country cannot afford to have another Labour term (Economic meltdown* and civil liberty issues). Better a lightweight Tory government who at least acknowledge that debt is the problem and that they are home grown.

We can always boot them out after 5 years, by which time maybe a new generation of politicians/parties might have emerged.

*A vote for Labour would sanction their borrowing our way out of debt policies. Jam today, sticky mess tomorrow.

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So what's your suggestion, vote Labour again? Sit at home and think apathetic thoughts?

Fvckwit

Fvckwit eh?

Hmmmmm

Well, I have to say, I'm left speechless by that

You go vote tory at the next election and see what happens.

My conscience is clear. I've never voted for any of them.

Here, the late great comedian George Carlin explains why voting is a total waste of time

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dqsNrmXgP0

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This is so far off it's untrue.

Anyone who comes in now, is going to have to make some seriously unpopular decisions and the pathetic greed of the British public is not going to like it.

The New Labour chav vote will be very hard hit. The thought of having to work for a living and not getting free subsidies is going to make them revert to type and bay for a socialist gravy train.

I fear the UK is beyond help, fashioned in general by a public which is simply too lazy and idle to want anything other than the easy life, no government can rescue this ship now it's been allowed to sink too far under and the correction is going to take a massive effort by ALL, something which I fear we are incapable of doing any longer.

I also fear this might be true, but there hardcore chavs are actually a small minority and anyway they don't peel their @rses of the chair to vote anyway (which is why we get all these wheezes to allow postal voting - txt voting coming soon I bet).

From what I hear in the workplace Brown is toast.

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I also fear this might be true, but there hardcore chavs are actually a small minority and anyway they don't peel their @rses of the chair to vote anyway (which is why we get all these wheezes to allow postal voting - txt voting coming soon I bet).

From what I hear in the workplace Brown is toast.

You're not working in the public sector then? ;)

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Fvckwit eh?

Hmmmmm

Well, I have to say, I'm left speechless by that

You go vote tory at the next election and see what happens.

My conscience is clear. I've never voted for any of them.

Here, the late great comedian George Carlin explains why voting is a total waste of time

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dqsNrmXgP0

Very good video, thanks.

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The relationship between government and people has been changed. The democratic ideal requires independent relatively self sufficient people selecting a government to implement their wishes. Thus the people are the master and the government is their servant. This is not the case in the UK. The government see's itself as the master and the people as its slaves. They do not seek out the wishes of the public and the public has no means of imposing their wishes on the government. Quite the contrary, the government tells the people what they should do and expects total compliance. This inverse relationship is not a democracy but an oligarchy. The only thing the people can do is vote once every 5 years to replace one lot with another who have exactly the same ideas. The media is a tame beast that supports this state of affairs since it too is corporatist in nature. We see this in the idea of 'UK plc'. This model see's the UK as giant corporation where each person is ruled and slotted into some role. This is wrong, the government is not there to tell the people what to do, or what to think. The government is there to do what they are told by the people.

This is compounded by idealism is politics. Time after time we see governments making policies based on ideology rather than doing what is best for the people. The government is not there to implement social models, not Marxist, socialist or anything else. It is there to do whatever is in the interest of the British people. The politician may go into politics with the idea of implementing some agenda. This is itself should disqualify them. They should have no agenda, their job is to do the will of the people.

One of the more egregious policies is that of creating dependence. They don't want people growing their own food because then they would not be dependent. You don't have heat pumps and solar cells on each house because then they would not be dependent. You encourage all food to come from a few large supermarkets, who make political contributions, all power comes from central generators. Everything must be centralized leaving the individual powerless. Many ancient societies considered self reliance a virtue. These days it is prevented to turn the person into a helpless worker doing whatever it is told. We no longer meet our neighbors and discuss what we can do, most dont even know who lives next door. Everyone is kept isolated, driving to work alone, watching TV alone or with family. There is no community at all and thus no activism. This is exactly what they want. You cannot get together with your neighbors, cut the wood and quarry the stone to build your own homes. You cannot even build without their permission.

I contend that we have become a nation of slave workers and that suits our government just fine. You can expect to be called a terrorist if you try to oppose this state of affairs.

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The relationship between government and people has been changed. The democratic ideal requires independent relatively self sufficient people selecting a government to implement their wishes. Thus the people are the master and the government is their servant. This is not the case in the UK. The government see's itself as the master and the people as its slaves. They do not seek out the wishes of the public and the public has no means of imposing their wishes on the government. Quite the contrary, the government tells the people what they should do and expects total compliance. This inverse relationship is not a democracy but an oligarchy. The only thing the people can do is vote once every 5 years to replace one lot with another who have exactly the same ideas. The media is a tame beast that supports this state of affairs since it too is corporatist in nature. We see this in the idea of 'UK plc'. This model see's the UK as giant corporation where each person is ruled and slotted into some role. This is wrong, the government is not there to tell the people what to do, or what to think. The government is there to do what they are told by the people.

This is compounded by idealism is politics. Time after time we see governments making policies based on ideology rather than doing what is best for the people. The government is not there to implement social models, not Marxist, socialist or anything else. It is there to do whatever is in the interest of the British people. The politician may go into politics with the idea of implementing some agenda. This is itself should disqualify them. They should have no agenda, their job is to do the will of the people.

One of the more egregious policies is that of creating dependence. They don't want people growing their own food because then they would not be dependent. You don't have heat pumps and solar cells on each house because then they would not be dependent. You encourage all food to come from a few large supermarkets, who make political contributions, all power comes from central generators. Everything must be centralized leaving the individual powerless. Many ancient societies considered self reliance a virtue. These days it is prevented to turn the person into a helpless worker doing whatever it is told. We no longer meet our neighbors and discuss what we can do, most dont even know who lives next door. Everyone is kept isolated, driving to work alone, watching TV alone or with family. There is no community at all and thus no activism. This is exactly what they want. You cannot get together with your neighbors, cut the wood and quarry the stone to build your own homes. You cannot even build without their permission.

I contend that we have become a nation of slave workers and that suits our government just fine. You can expect to be called a terrorist if you try to oppose this state of affairs.

Well put. Any suggestions how this state of slavery can be overturned?

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Excellent post!

+1

Very neatly summarises the corporate socialist state we are living in.

He also corrrectly pointed out some things that are not so openly talked about.

The centralization of food supply and distribution is particularly dangerous. They can literally starve the people into submission if they have to. Not many people have considered how dangerous it is to centralize the entire nation's food supply into the hands of a few supermarket chains. The few independent food retailers that still exist can't possibly feed the nation.

The other rather insidious aspect of centralized food supply is the ease with which they can control the content and price of food. There have been several accusations of price fixing and cartel type activity between supermarkets. As for food quality, alot of it as simply appalling. Tesco, the biggest retailer in the UK, taking an astonishing 30% of ALL money in the retail sector, has absolutely CRAP food. I never shop there.

It isn't a free market. It is like our money supply. It is centrally controlled.

Our water supply is now almost exclusively in foreign hands too.

Corporatism is fascism. ENDOF.

Just because the government isn't gassing people to death doesn't mean we aren't living in a fascist state.......because we are, and people need to wake up and do something about it because the gas chambers can't be far away.

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