scarlets79 Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 If you are determined to work and live within your means and make provisions for your pension and save for rainy days... rest assured you will be punished to help pay for those who didn't bother. If you won't take out a mortgage that eats up most of your income, instead renting until you can afford to buy... rest assured you will be hit in some way or another to "help" those who have borrowed irresponsibly and can't pay up. This country sees to benefit the irresponsible losers and with this rabble in charge of our government I can't see things changing. New Labour will get a lot of votes next time- there are milions of losers in Britain who will vote for them to continue receiving help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Te Mata Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 If you are determined to work and live within your means and make provisions for your pension and save for rainy days... rest assured you will be punished to help pay for those who didn't bother.If you won't take out a mortgage that eats up most of your income, instead renting until you can afford to buy... rest assured you will be hit in some way or another to "help" those who have borrowed irresponsibly and can't pay up. This country sees to benefit the irresponsible losers and with this rabble in charge of our government I can't see things changing. New Labour will get a lot of votes next time- there are milions of losers in Britain who will vote for them to continue receiving help. New Labour are following Jesus' example. IIRC he said something like "It is the sick who need a Doctor, not the righteous". How can you call yourself Christian and not help those who need it? </sarcasm> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarlets79 Posted December 9, 2008 Author Share Posted December 9, 2008 New Labour are following Jesus' example.IIRC he said something like "It is the sick who need a Doctor, not the righteous". How can you call yourself Christian and not help those who need it? </sarcasm> it seems you're as moronic as ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quagmire Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 vote with feet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miserable Barsteward Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 If you are determined to work and live within your means and make provisions for your pension and save for rainy days... rest assured you will be punished to help pay for those who didn't bother.If you won't take out a mortgage that eats up most of your income, instead renting until you can afford to buy... rest assured you will be hit in some way or another to "help" those who have borrowed irresponsibly and can't pay up. This country sees to benefit the irresponsible losers and with this rabble in charge of our government I can't see things changing. New Labour will get a lot of votes next time- there are milions of losers in Britain who will vote for them to continue receiving help. Great post...Spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Te Mata Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 it seems you're as moronic as ever No, even though I 100% agree with your OP, you're cognitively dissonant. The apostles were socialists. Review Acts - from each their ability, to each their need. I think it's interesting that modern churches are so right wing, whereas the book they purportedly model themselves on is so left wing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 If you are determined to work and live within your means and make provisions for your pension and save for rainy days... rest assured you will be punished to help pay for those who didn't bother.If you won't take out a mortgage that eats up most of your income, instead renting until you can afford to buy... rest assured you will be hit in some way or another to "help" those who have borrowed irresponsibly and can't pay up. This country sees to benefit the irresponsible losers and with this rabble in charge of our government I can't see things changing. New Labour will get a lot of votes next time- there are milions of losers in Britain who will vote for them to continue receiving help. Agreed, galling isn't it? Four of my close friends are looking to emigrate, 2 have already bought land in Spain and sold up here, know how they feel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y-QUERK Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 New Labour are following Jesus' example.IIRC he said something like "It is the sick who need a Doctor, not the righteous". How can you call yourself Christian and not help those who need it? </sarcasm> Hehe. Problem is the 'sick' in this case are in fact suffering from self inflicted gunshot wounds.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awf Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 New Labour are following Jesus' example.IIRC he said something like "It is the sick who need a Doctor, not the righteous". How can you call yourself Christian and not help those who need it? </sarcasm> Jesus also said: "Let the dead bury the dead" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Te Mata Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 Hehe. Problem is the 'sick' in this case are in fact suffering from self inflicted gunshot wounds.... Hehe, very true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Converted Lurker Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 (edited) If you are determined to work and live within your means and make provisions for your pension and save for rainy days... rest assured you will be punished to help pay for those who didn't bother.If you won't take out a mortgage that eats up most of your income, instead renting until you can afford to buy... rest assured you will be hit in some way or another to "help" those who have borrowed irresponsibly and can't pay up. This country sees to benefit the irresponsible losers and with this rabble in charge of our government I can't see things changing. New Labour will get a lot of votes next time- there are milions of losers in Britain who will vote for them to continue receiving help. God these threads are getting tiresome, the assumption that it's only the "reckless and feckless" that'll get 'help' is wrong, the mass unemployment that'll hit us next year will take no prisoners, only civil servants and bailiffs will thrive (and the latter won't do that well). The assumption being made constantly on various threads is that those who own a house are somehow reckless if they have a mortgage. Millions of responsible folk will lose their jobs over the next two years, they didn't ask for it. The average outstanding mortgage balance is (iirc) 113K , the average price of a UK property is 175K, hardly seems reckless does it? If someone can't afford the average mortgage (at 6% - 400 quid) then paying them housing benefit (if they lose everything and end up renting), or helping them to pay their mortgage still comes from the same 'till'. Edited December 9, 2008 by Converted Lurker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AteMoose Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 (edited) THE GRASSHOPPER AND THE ANTS One fine day in winter some Ants were busy drying their store of corn, which had got rather damp during a long spell of rain. Presently up came a Grasshopper and begged them to spare her a few grains, "For," she said, "I'm simply starving." The Ants stopped work for a moment, though this was against their principles. "May we ask," said they, "what you were doing with yourself all last summer? Why didn't you collect a store of food for the winter?" "The fact is," replied the Grasshopper, "I was so busy singing that I hadn't the time." "If you spent the summer singing," replied the Ants, "you can't do better than spend the winter dancing." And they chuckled and went on with their work. Then a small child called Gordon, kills off the ants and gives the grain to the grasshopper who sings for him Edited December 9, 2008 by moosetea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobajobbob Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 It is the Labour way. Make sure that everyone is f*cked rather than allow some to do better than others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jadoube Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 God these threads are getting tiresome, the assumption that it's only the "reckless and feckless" that'll get 'help' is wrong, the mass unemployment that'll hit us next year will take no prisoners, only civil servants and bailiffs will thrive (and the latter won't do that well). The assumption being made constantly on various threads is that those who own a house are somehow reckless if they have a mortgage.Millions of responsible folk will lose their jobs over the next two years, they didn't ask for it. The average outstanding mortgage balance is (iirc) 113K , the average price of a UK property is 175K, hardly seems reckless does it? If someone can't afford the average mortgage (at 6% - 400 quid) then paying them housing benefit (if they lose everything and end up renting), or helping them to pay their mortgage still comes from the same 'till'. +1 Excellent post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chichi Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 Write to your local paper - they've all got email addresses so it doesn't even cost you a stamp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rented hell Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 The average outstanding mortgage balance is (iirc) 113K , the average price of a UK property is 175K, hardly seems reckless does it? If someone can't afford the average mortgage (at 6% - 400 quid) then paying them housing benefit (if they lose everything and end up renting), or helping them to pay their mortgage still comes from the same 'till'. Get outta here! They shouldn't have bought in the first place. So yes they were reckless. They all told each other, 'Oooh, prices will never go down. Buy BUY BUY!' Why didn't they do their research and figure out prices were going to have to come down eventually. The more they bought, the more prices rocketed. Idiots. I sincerely hope they do 'end up renting'. And have to pay for the pleasure of living at the mercy of scum landlords, just like the rest of us. Agree with OP. Flatscreen-buyin'-WII-playin'-Kristy-lovin'-Beeny-shaggin'-Loft convertin'-sheeple are truly getting away with it. Now we all have to suffer and it makes me and a lot of other people very very angry. Right. Off to try to cam down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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