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We have a socialist party in power, need I remind you.

Why waste money on educating the workforce when the money is better spent on building prisons to put them in.

Think it is coming to that I am afraid. Prison numbers are forecast to rise significantly and new jails are being built as we speak. Having spent most of my teenage years in one, I think there are far cheaper and much more effective ways of keeping our young people on the straight and narrow.

ps. at least I am working in a 'growth industry'.

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Think it is coming to that I am afraid. Prison numbers are forecast to rise significantly and new jails are being built as we speak. Having spent most of my teenage years in one, I think there are far cheaper and much more effective ways of keeping our young people on the straight and narrow.

ps. at least I am working in a 'growth industry'.

I think you are talking in the past tense "There were more effective ways" it should read.

The introduction of cheap imported labour, the offshoring of low skilled, and mid skilled jobs, have starved the younger generation of a future.

I started work at the bottom ( No I am not gay :-) ) I worked as a labourer, then a Brickie, then a site manager, then started my own business, then retrained to IT, and it goes on and on as I am retraining at present yet again.

If you remove the bottome tiers, via cheap imported labour, via removing those jobs offshore, then the acorns will not grow into grand oaks.

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Are you aware that savings over 3k would make you ineligable to claim any benefits should you lose your job ?

Not correct.

If you lose your job, you can claim JSA for 6 months but this is reduced on a scale with savings over £3k (might be £6k?) until you get nought with savings over £16k. Savings over 3k do not mean you are completely ineligible. You also have to be up to date on NI contributions.

Edit: Since you mention returning to Oz, it may be that you do not qualify under the last criteria above.

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lost my job this week. 1/3 of work force culled across the board. Senior engineer Aston Martin

Sorry to hear that, AM is a fine company to have on one's CV. At the risk of being insensitive, what are the discounts like on the V8 Vantage? I remember the days of waiting lists and premiums, how times change.

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''15 out of 60 notified same day as a company meeting. Mainly because of a large client 'not committing' to anything next year. After the meeting we were told to wait at our desks until contacted by phone or email, ''

Seems a pretty unprofessional, manipulative and sinister way to treat staff. It is a shame that in the current climate it is a bit more difficult to tell them where to stick their deselection procedures.

how would you get rid of worker's...? do you know off a really nice way. :unsure:

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Well not wishing to be heralded as the new sherlock, but if you remove British Jobs to go offshore, then in no time you have removed the skill base, then you have removed the consumers who buy your products. So as it was a race to the top for profit, its now a race to the bottom for bankruptcy.

Its not fcking rocket science is it ?

What's becoming clear is that we seem to have bred an entire generation of business and financial 'experts' who have no ability whatsoever to join the dots- it's like some strange brain disease has taken out their capacity for mid to long term thinking- a goldfish generation constantly surprised when the straight line projections on their graphs don't pan out.

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What's becoming clear is that we seem to have bred an entire generation of business and financial 'experts' who have no ability whatsoever to join the dots- it's like some strange brain disease has taken out their capacity for mid to long term thinking- a goldfish generation constantly surprised when the straight line projections on their graphs don't pan out.

I thought the same when I read Tesco's results.

The increased their profit, but it didnt fit in with their projections of ever increasing growth.

Its amazing that business's today fail because they didnt increase their profits for a single quarter, in line with extravagant projections designed to entice investors.

The stark reality is that over this ten year period it would appear that no business has ever made a profit, they have simply engineered their books with creative accounting techniques to increase their share price, which in turn makes the business more profitable on paper.

Can anyone point to a business that made a real profit ? I cannot think of a single business that would fit this criteria.

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quote a few people losing their jobs on this site.

After all the arguements about value in the public sector, it would ony be fair to see the same sort of culling among the management of their ranks too.

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Sorry to hear that, AM is a fine company to have on one's CV. At the risk of being insensitive, what are the discounts like on the V8 Vantage? I remember the days of waiting lists and premiums, how times change.

I heard from someone in the finance department that if anyone turned up at Gaydon with 50k they would let you walk off with a new V8! we have 2000 V8's unsold sitting at Fenny Compton.

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15 out of 60 notified same day as a company meeting. Mainly because of a large client 'not committing' to anything next year. After the meeting we were told to wait at our desks until contacted by phone or email, after about an hour & a half my dept told we were in the clear as we were 'core' staff to the business.

Phew isn't the word :oss

I worked for a similar sized company and a similar amount were let go in the first wave. They were the lucky ones as they got redundancy and pay. The company crashed a year later owing me 10K, but I got not a penny. I had, however, taken income protection out which paid out 20K in the end. My advice is get this, not morgage, cost about 50pcm but was well worth it.

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My God!, it's no wonder the country is going to the dogs if this is the calibre of management. Disgusting.

The top man in the last company I worked for in the UK in the late 90's was an insensitive, bully boy and people walked in fear of him.

I was relatively fortunate in that I had some money in the bank, a wife I disliked (having married late and in haste) with no children; I had little to lose.

At an office-do one night he decided to pick on me in public. That night I was stressed and in a sour mood and much to his surprise and embarrassment I ripped into him. Shortly afterwards he retired early to bed and very much with his tail between his legs.

Did it end there? Over the next year he made my life hell in an effort to get rid of me . I'd refused to be bullied and belittled. But what goes around........not long afterwards we were bought out by the Americans and bully boy and his ****-licking henchmen were all out on their rings, frantically looking for jobs in a shrinking market.

My point ? The quality of management in so many British companies is indeed truly appalling, with bullying commonplace and sycophants regularly being promoted to jobs they can't do.

Unfortunately, as usual, the incompetent elite will be the last to get the chop .

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So sad to see many on here losing jobs, very stresfull. I am honestly horrified at the method some firms seem to adopt for informing staff of job losses. Are management so insensitve to people's feelings? I may have the wrong end of the stick here, but it seems very callous to me.

I lost my job a month ago and I was sent an email by the partner to come to a meeting and then told I was "at risk". I was then asked to keep it quiet. The meeting was held two days later (they messed up with making sure everyone was in the office).

Under current redundancy laws I'm not sure what else they could have done. It would be nice to know what is the most humane way to tell people all at once that they're being made redundant and let employers know about this best practice.

The main thing is to fight for the biggest settlement you can and if the redundancy criteria is arbitrary to bang the table about that.

I know I may sound a bit Marie Antoinette here but we are going to see big job losses, there has been massive debt and overinvestment in the last few years and so we are going to have to have a massive reallocation. Save like mad, make sure your lifestyle can cope with a big pay cut and find ways of making your CV attractive. Even if you did those things it still stings like anything when it happens.

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Are you aware that savings over 3k would make you ineligable to claim any benefits should you lose your job ?

I left my job and currently doing some training before returning to Oz, however was suprised to find that having paid over 2k per month in deductions for the past five years I am entitled to nothing at all because I have savings.

For sure 60 quid a week is not going to pay for much else than my fags, or half a night out on a Saturday with a walk home rather than the usual 20 quid taxi. But it would be nice to see that people who saved for a rainy day are not penalised.

Means testing? Well, that's what you morons get for voting for liberals and socialists. Next thing you know, you'll be wondering (again!) where you're fooking weapons are when the enemy invades. I swear, you guys are fooking retards.

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Means testing? Well, that's what you morons get for voting for liberals and socialists. Next thing you know, you'll be wondering (again!) where you're fooking weapons are when the enemy invades. I swear, you guys are fooking retards.
Alright, you're not fooking retards, but you are fooking gobutits. Is that better? Come out, come out, wherever you are...... It's late.

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lost my job this week. 1/3 of work force culled across the board. Senior engineer Aston Martin

I wish you the best of luck and genuinely feel sympathy for you.

I keep banging on about how much better we were when the economy was growing. The market for Aston Martins was very healthy when property developers, speculators, estate agents, surveyors and the like were making money from the housing market. Now they're screwed we're getting screwed.

Have we gained now the economy is in housing market led downturn.

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I heard from someone in the finance department that if anyone turned up at Gaydon with 50k they would let you walk off with a new V8! we have 2000 V8's unsold sitting at Fenny Compton.

Really sorry to hear about your job kman but as another poster noted having AM on your CV must be pretty impressive.

GBP50k for a V8 is very tempting indeed though.

When I worked at one of the 'big 4' accounting firms they had a round of redundancies where notification was via e-mail. :o

We were all told they were doing s review and affected staff would get an e-mail on a certain date. Didn't even have the decency to tell staff face-to-face.

BTW I work for one the largest banks and redundancies have been very minor to date although I am hearing strong rumours that these will be ramped up next year with up to 10% of staff going in some countries / business lines. :o

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I work with young criminals and have never had so many referrals. Our research suggests that the shortage (or total absence) of modern apprenticeships in construction/engineering during the typical June to September recruiting season is to blame. This has forced/reduced more working class boys to petty crime and drunken behaviour etc.

The number of school leavers without a 'destination' (ie. work, training, FE, HE) in our latest survey has increased by a sixth.

Your job safe then

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My firm annouced that we were going on short time then stuck a notice on the Coffee Machine saying people were going to be made redundant. Classy!

Really cheesy!

Some years ago I got notice of redundancy through the post, on my birthday!

None of the "managers" thought to speak to me in person!

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The top man in the last company I worked for in the UK in the late 90's was an insensitive, bully boy and people walked in fear of him.

I was relatively fortunate in that I had some money in the bank, a wife I disliked (having married late and in haste) with no children; I had little to lose.

At an office-do one night he decided to pick on me in public. That night I was stressed and in a sour mood and much to his surprise and embarrassment I ripped into him. Shortly afterwards he retired early to bed and very much with his tail between his legs.

Did it end there? Over the next year he made my life hell in an effort to get rid of me . I'd refused to be bullied and belittled. But what goes around........not long afterwards we were bought out by the Americans and bully boy and his ****-licking henchmen were all out on their rings, frantically looking for jobs in a shrinking market.

My point ? The quality of management in so many British companies is indeed truly appalling, with bullying commonplace and sycophants regularly being promoted to jobs they can't do.

Unfortunately, as usual, the incompetent elite will be the last to get the chop .

Good for you. Wait Long by the River and the Bodies of Your Enemies Will Float By.

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Not to rain on your relief but i think this Winston Churchill quote applies right now "Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. but it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning"

About sums up where we are. We have a long "war" ahead of us I am afraid and it is well past time that we had new leadership to get us through the difficult times causes and/or contributed to by the man who thought the boom would never end and ran the economy accordingly.

R4 this morning said that the number of marriages breaking up and under severe strain due to the financial collapse is growing at alarming rate and counseling services are overwhelmed with calls.

The social consequences of Brown's folly will be huge. Tragic loss of jobs, families and hope. It is one thing to delight in seeing house prices come back to where ordinary people can afford them but quite another to see the consequences of Brown's HPI-MEW-BTL "miracle" cause so much human suffering.

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R4 this morning said that the number of marriages breaking up and under severe strain due to the financial collapse is growing at alarming rate and counseling services are overwhelmed with calls.

This isn't surprising, the social cost of this correction will be huge. Trouble is many who are married will be unable to afford to get divorced. Those who invested wisely in choosing their partners are going to have a much easier time than those who where fickle and based choosing someone on a consumer basis because it was easy to change your mind and move on.

I'm expecting a lot of shall we say open marriages where people have broken up but can't move on so just end up sharing a house an living separate lives.

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