D.C. Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 Is that for real? Yes, sad but true I'm afraid. The US and China also do it, probably loads of other governments too. If you have a good 'standing' on a high traffic forum, companies will even pay you to plug their tat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piece of paper Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 Is that for real? Vast armies of them. On all sides. You are the only poster on here outside political control. Were you abroad when we were all recruited? p-o-p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mr Parry Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 Vast armies of them. On all sides. You are the only poster on here outside political control. Were you abroad when we were all recruited?p-o-p I wondered how you lot made a living. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tegan Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 (edited) Is that for real? Sure is! Companies like this specialise in such things - http://editorialintelligence.com/ Entirely coincidently a company with very close links to New Labour! Edited November 30, 2008 by tegan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bootfair Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 Regarding your answer to my question "wasnt Blair accused of illegality" No. Hmm, well there were accusations made towards those at the highest levels of power, which according to you the police then had a RESPONSIBILITY to ARREST for, but this was not done. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6179911.stm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piece of paper Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 I wondered how you lot made a living. The real pros like RB work for different masters on different boards. Were you privy to the IP addresses, you'd know that he makes Bob Crow look like a rabid tory on some other sites. p-o-p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mr Parry Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 The real pros like RB work for different masters on different boards. Were you privy to the IP addresses, you'd know that he makes Bob Crow look like a rabid tory on some other sites.p-o-p You lot are havin' me on! Really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellerkat Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 ¡Vota Chavez! Whoops, sorry, wrong forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bootfair Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 (edited) Just made a thread on this, but its probably better here..... A thread on here led me to a link to Nick Robinson's blog last night... He made comparisons between the arrest of Damian Green and that of Ruth Turner, leading to a storm of protest, today we see a re-write..if you scroll down you can see the original blog too... http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/nickrobinson/ Edited November 30, 2008 by bootfair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pindar Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 I'm sure thay are employed by the state to deliberately infect internet forums with their pro-socialist drivel No no, they've been seconded from the BBC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherSTR Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 Great to see this clip of Gordon Brown available. It's already on this discussion, but it's worth highlighting again. http://www.order-order.com/2008/11/brown-c...misconduct.html Banged to rights. Lock him up before he ***cks anything else up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepwello'nights Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 The arrest of Damian Green is outrageous. So was the murder of David Kelly and the subsequent whitewash. How are we going to rid the country of this administration. I fear that they will win the next election even if nobody votes for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest happy? Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 The arrest of Damian Green is outrageous. So was the murder of David Kelly and the subsequent whitewash. How are we going to rid the country of this administration. I fear that they will win the next election even if nobody votes for them. My thoughts exactly ZanuLabour have ruined this country: I'm off / can I interest you in the Countryside Alliance Christmas raffle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patprimer74 Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 Just imagine: You're a junior civil servant. You're an active member of one of the main political parties. In the past you've stood, unsuccessfully, for a minor elected office under that party banner. You'd like to work full time for that political party and apply for a job. You are interviewed by a senior member of that political party but you don't get the job, yet. You now return to your civil service job and keep your head down. You start leaking a stream of confidential items to the very same person who interviewed you for the party post and turned you down. Nothing wrong with that, is there? It's all 'in the public interest'. JUST A MENTAL EXERCISE, OF COURSE. ANY SIMILARITY TO ANY PERSON LIVING OR DEAD IS PURELY COINCIDENTAL. p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecrashingisles Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 Just imagine:You're a junior civil servant. You're an active member of one of the main political parties. In the past you've stood, unsuccessfully, for a minor elected office under that party banner. You'd like to work full time for that political party and apply for a job. You are interviewed by a senior member of that political party but you don't get the job, yet. You now return to your civil service job and keep your head down. You start leaking a stream of confidential items to the very same person who interviewed you for the party post and turned you down. Nothing wrong with that, is there? It's all 'in the public interest'. JUST A MENTAL EXERCISE, OF COURSE. ANY SIMILARITY TO ANY PERSON LIVING OR DEAD IS PURELY COINCIDENTAL. p And just as a mental exercise, who is the guilty party in your little scenario? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonjo Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 Vast armies of them. On all sides. You are the only poster on here outside political control. Were you abroad when we were all recruited?p-o-p I'm employed by the LibDems, which is why points are generally pointless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quagmire Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 (edited) Just imagine:You're a junior civil servant. You're an active member of one of the main political parties. In the past you've stood, unsuccessfully, for a minor elected office under that party banner. You'd like to work full time for that political party and apply for a job. You are interviewed by a senior member of that political party but you don't get the job, yet. You now return to your civil service job and keep your head down. You start leaking a stream of confidential items to the very same person who interviewed you for the party post and turned you down. Nothing wrong with that, is there? It's all 'in the public interest'. JUST A MENTAL EXERCISE, OF COURSE. ANY SIMILARITY TO ANY PERSON LIVING OR DEAD IS PURELY COINCIDENTAL. p Just Imagine: You're a junior civil servant. You leak information that the public SHOULD KNOW, potentially embarrassing the authoritarian regime known as New Labour. You are arrested in a dawn raid and 'accommodated' in a 'safe house'. You are coerced by the politicised MET to contact a Tory MP in an attempt to ensare him. The Tory MP simply encourages you to get legal advice, fearing his phone is tapped by the regime. The Tory MP is arrested by anti-terror police. This action is widely critised, even by members of New Labour. The Tory MP is released without charge. You are kept in the safe house to 'protect' you from the media. New Labour rapidly try to distance themselves from the arrests. Some retard called PatPrimer tries to defend the arrests on housepricecrash.co.uk Nothing wrong with that, is there? It's all 'in the public interest'. JUST A MENTAL EXERCISE, OF COURSE. ANY SIMILARITY TO ANY PERSON LIVING OR DEAD IS PURELY COINCIDENTAL. q Edited November 30, 2008 by Quagmire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Lorne Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 (edited) Just Imagine:You're a junior civil servant. You leak information that the public SHOULD KNOW, potentially embarrassing the authoritarian regime known as New Labour. You are arrested in a dawn raid and 'accommodated' in a 'safe house'. You are coerced by the politicsed MET to contact a Tory MP in an attempt to ensare him. The Tory MP simply encourages you to get legal advice, fearing his phone is tapped by the regime. The Tory MP is arrested by anti-terror police. This action is widely critised, even by members of New Labour. The Tory MP is released without charge. You are kept in the safe hour to 'protect' you from the media. New Labour rapidly try to distance themselves from the arrests. Some retard called PatPrimer tries to defend the arrests on housepricecrash.co.uk Nothing wrong with that, is there? It's all 'in the public interest'. JUST A MENTAL EXERCISE, OF COURSE. ANY SIMILARITY TO ANY PERSON LIVING OR DEAD IS PURELY COINCIDENTAL. q ...good point....the acid test is to read or write it without the names Tory and New labour ....it reads like an attack on our democracy.... Edited November 30, 2008 by South Lorne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Injin Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 Just imagine:You're a junior civil servant. You're an active member of one of the main political parties. In the past you've stood, unsuccessfully, for a minor elected office under that party banner. You'd like to work full time for that political party and apply for a job. You are interviewed by a senior member of that political party but you don't get the job, yet. You now return to your civil service job and keep your head down. You start leaking a stream of confidential items to the very same person who interviewed you for the party post and turned you down. Nothing wrong with that, is there? It's all 'in the public interest'. JUST A MENTAL EXERCISE, OF COURSE. ANY SIMILARITY TO ANY PERSON LIVING OR DEAD IS PURELY COINCIDENTAL. p If the action is harmless, it doesn't matter why it's been done. He could have handed the info over because his tablelamp told him to or he thinks there are fairies at the bottom of his garden, as the action itself is harmless, it's irrelevent. is handing information over in and of itself a crime? Nope. No injured party, see? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Lorne Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 If the action is harmless, it doesn't matter why it's been done. He could have handed the info over because his tablelamp told him to or he thinks there are fairies at the bottom of his garden, as the action itself is harmless, it's irrelevent. is handing information over in and of itself a crime? Nope. No injured party, see? ....the information concened government ineptitude in connection with national security...I as a citiizen have been injured..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Injin Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 ....the information concened government ineptitude in connection with national security...I as a citiizen have been injured..... What was the damage? Was it to your person or your property? Did it leave a mark? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormymonday_2011 Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 (edited) Just imagine:You're a junior civil servant. You're an active member of one of the main political parties. In the past you've stood, unsuccessfully, for a minor elected office under that party banner. You'd like to work full time for that political party and apply for a job. You are interviewed by a senior member of that political party but you don't get the job, yet. You now return to your civil service job and keep your head down. You start leaking a stream of confidential items to the very same person who interviewed you for the party post and turned you down. Nothing wrong with that, is there? It's all 'in the public interest'. JUST A MENTAL EXERCISE, OF COURSE. ANY SIMILARITY TO ANY PERSON LIVING OR DEAD IS PURELY COINCIDENTAL. p Yes. Happens all the time. But as Labour Party members far outnumber Tories in the Civil Service rank and file then they are the main beneficiaries of this activity, particularly when in opposition. As a former Trade Union official in the old Inland Revenue Staff Federation (now part of the PCS) this is one bit of government where I have direct experience. Although the Union was not technically politically affiliated many of its most activists were Labour party members. Indeed, its ex alumni included James Callaghan a future Labour Prime Minister. In addition, several of its general secretaries (e.g Clive Brooke) and other officials (Liz Symons) have wound up as Labour peers in the Lords which seems strange for a staff organisation that claimed to have no direct links to the party. One assumes they did not get these peerages for nothing. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clive_Brooke,..._of_Alverthorpe http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Symons This set up means that Labour always had a good feed of information about what was going wrong in government. Indeed, one of the follies of the Tory party over the years was its constant desire to denigrate all Civil Servants and not to develop better contacts within it. It seems that the Labour party simply does not like it when the Conservatives start playing them at their own game. Edited December 1, 2008 by up2nogood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearbullfence Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Great to see this clip of Gordon Brown available. It's already on this discussion, but it's worth highlighting again.http://www.order-order.com/2008/11/brown-c...misconduct.html Banged to rights. Lock him up before he ***cks anything else up! No mouth breathing in the interview? What happened to him since then that means he has to suck air every few sentences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wires 74 Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 (edited) If you really wanted to see a Police State in action you should have tried living in a Yorkshire Pit Village circa 1984/85 ... Edited December 1, 2008 by Wires 74 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patprimer74 Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Nice to see that Nick Robinson reads this board. 'Groomed'. I wonder why the police used that word, 'groomed'? In addition to the word 'induce'. Things are looking more and more serious. Are we in for an early statement to the media at the drive entrance, flanked by members of the close family a la Little Britain, do you think? Sad. p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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