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I am a financial controller, so am used to getting calls from annoying recruitment consultants. They always used to be so full of beans, but I am getting increasingly desperate consultants phoning me up. Readers of this site all saw the turnulance coming, but it seems to have only just dawned on the the recruitment consultants that this is real and they are in trouble. Some approximate quotes from recent telephone calls

"Maybe you could help me out"

"I dont suppose you need to recuit anyone on the temporary or permanent side"

one actually just told me that she would advise me to stay put, which is like a car saleman telling you that you can make do with the one you've got.

"I dont think I will be able to get a mortgage when my fixed rate term expires"

I used to get annoyed with these guys, but I actually have a strange feeling of sympathy for them. It really does seem like things are grinding to a complete halt out there, its going to get so much worse before it gets better.

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I. Hate. Recruitment consultants.

There, I've said it, I'm glad that's off my chest. They rank lower than EA's IMO. In the scheme of things they're below dogs and rats, above pond slime. Just. Well the 'office angels' type ones anyway. I've had some decent dealings with professional consultants, but the temping agencies used to make me want to vomit, when I was a student.

Why is it they have a window full of adverts, but no jobs?

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I am a financial controller, so am used to getting calls from annoying recruitment consultants. They always used to be so full of beans, but I am getting increasingly desperate consultants phoning me up. Readers of this site all saw the turnulance coming, but it seems to have only just dawned on the the recruitment consultants that this is real and they are in trouble. Some approximate quotes from recent telephone calls

"Maybe you could help me out"

"I dont suppose you need to recuit anyone on the temporary or permanent side"

one actually just told me that she would advise me to stay put, which is like a car saleman telling you that you can make do with the one you've got.

"I dont think I will be able to get a mortgage when my fixed rate term expires"

I used to get annoyed with these guys, but I actually have a strange feeling of sympathy for them. It really does seem like things are grinding to a complete halt out there, its going to get so much worse before it gets better.

Bridgeman International seem to be getting increasingly desperate. 3 calls a day.

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I have been bombarded by calls recently - took it as a good sign until I asked one of the callers, he said 'its not good but there are jobs for the right candidate'. Depressing but obvious I suppose. Why do they ring you at work? They should run out of hours like double glazing salespeople!

Edited grazing to glazing!

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I have been bombarded by calls recently - took it as a good sign until I asked one of the callers, he said 'its not good but there are jobs for the right candidate'. Depressing but obvious I suppose. Why do they ring you at work? They should run out of hours like double glazing salespeople!

Edited grazing to glazing!

They tend to ring you at work when they are trying to tout their candidates around, and then try and sneek in to the conversation about getting in touch with them if you are looking for a new job. Other than that, they usually call your mobile when trying to get you onto their books as a candidate.

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I. Hate. Recruitment consultants.

There, I've said it, I'm glad that's off my chest. They rank lower than EA's IMO. In the scheme of things they're below dogs and rats, above pond slime. Just. Well the 'office angels' type ones anyway. I've had some decent dealings with professional consultants, but the temping agencies used to make me want to vomit, when I was a student.

I've had dealings two types of recruitment consultants: (1) complete wastes of space who know nothing about their industry, don't care about you, and are worse than pond scum. (2) Really switched on professionals who take an interest and actually provide you with good pre-vetted candidates or, if you are on the other side of the fence, get you lots of relevant interviews.

In 15 years have had dealings with 3 in the second category - they helped me out as an employer and an employee. They earned their fees. I lost count of the number that fall into the first category and they have p*ssed away a huge chunk of my life. (Just got 2 calls from category 1 consultants in the last 30 minutes.)

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I used to be a recruitment consultant about 8 years ago, probably fell into the "pond life" category.... :lol:

I was interested in the industry but given sod all training. It was like; "there's your computer, here's our data base just ring people up and ask them if they want a job or if they want anyone to start...."

I can honestly say it was the worst job of my life..... :angry:

I've done some sh*t jobs involving real sh*t and they were more fun than that.... :lol:

In the end I couldn't handle it; I was lying to the canditates, the candidates were lying to me as well as their boss, I was lying to my boss and he was lying to me, he was also lying to my candidates company, (our client) I was also lying to the client and they were lying back to me and my boss and we all lied to each other everyday in the office..... :unsure:

Thats how I would sum up the whole recruitment industry.....one for Eric me thinks; a whole LIAR INDUSTRY :lol:

Truly unbelievable, god knows how they stayed in business.

AJ

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I've had dealings two types of recruitment consultants: (1) complete wastes of space who know nothing about their industry, don't care about you, and are worse than pond scum. (2) Really switched on professionals who take an interest and actually provide you with good pre-vetted candidates or, if you are on the other side of the fence, get you lots of relevant interviews.

In 15 years have had dealings with 3 in the second category - they helped me out as an employer and an employee. They earned their fees. I lost count of the number that fall into the first category and they have p*ssed away a huge chunk of my life. (Just got 2 calls from category 1 consultants in the last 30 minutes.)

Same experience that I have had with these people - in about 10 years I have met 4 or 5 in the second category and lots in the first. Getting calls and emails every day to place candidates - depressing that there are so many good candidates around and so few jobs for them. However have had 3 calls from headhunters in the past month too and they all said that there is movement at very senior levels in my field (a specialist field of accounting) mainly due to early retirements but also due to emigration. I too am considering emigration.

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I used to be a recruitment consultant about 8 years ago, probably fell into the "pond life" category.... :lol:

In the end I couldn't handle it; I was lying to the canditates, the candidates were lying[/b] to me as well as their boss, I was lying to my boss and he was lying to me, he was also lying to my candidates company, (our client) I was also lying to the client and they were lying back to me and my boss and we all lied to each other everyday in the office..... :unsure:

Thats how I would sum up the whole recruitment industry.....one for Eric me thinks; a whole LIAR INDUSTRY :lol:

Truly unbelievable, god knows how they stayed in business.

AJ

How do we know you are telling the truth about this?

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Uh oh...... I work for one of the largest executive search firms.. and well it seems we are as popular as estate agents around here. Oh behalf of all my industry colleagues I apologize for all the naff call center type experiences it sounds like you've put up with.

We are not all naive cowboys, some of us do deeply care about candidates ... some of us care about your business success and strive to understand what's driving your business and what kind of leadership you need. I couldn't do the job otherwise.... But whether it drives you mad or not, recruitment goes on in volatile times..... especially at senior levels.... and these market conditions are even good news to consultants working at the top of their game as the CEOs and Business Leaders get the chop and need to be replaced.

Anyhows - - you'll be pleased to know with typical HPC schadenfreude glee that our company is making preemptive redundancies in the middle management recruiting areas - - and I'm 1) expecting to be laid off and 2) standing back on HPC to get shot down for being one level up from pond slime estate agent ..... Ready, Steady, Take Aim ...... :(

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two years as a recruiter, two years running recruitment inside an it firm, just moved into an it job via an agency.

I think i've seen the industry from every angle.

Executive search. Haha ha! Bet you tell all your mates you're a head hunter.

Funny old world

St

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Executive search. Haha ha! Bet you tell all your mates you're a head hunter.

Funny old world

St

:lol: Yeah that's such a terrible term isn't it "I'm a head hunter" or "I've just been head hunted"......lol

Used to make me cringe, my boss was always saying to me; "just tell them you're a head hunter.....people love to think they've been head hunted.....works everytime......"

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Hang on guys - I'm a temporary P.A./Sec. Really enjoyed working as a temp. Never been out of work - few weeks ago my last booking finished and only one week later I had two temp job offers on same day. Accepted one (local & decently paid) , they've taken me on perm (good position to be in with coming recession). Some of us give everything we've got in a temp post & thoroughly enjoy the challenge. Enjoy temping, but with current climate glad to get the perm offer. :P

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I used to be a recruitment consultant about 8 years ago, probably fell into the "pond life" category.... :lol:

I was interested in the industry but given sod all training. It was like; "there's your computer, here's our data base just ring people up and ask them if they want a job or if they want anyone to start...."

I can honestly say it was the worst job of my life..... :angry:

I've done some sh*t jobs involving real sh*t and they were more fun than that.... :lol:

In the end I couldn't handle it; I was lying to the canditates, the candidates were lying to me as well as their boss, I was lying to my boss and he was lying to me, he was also lying to my candidates company, (our client) I was also lying to the client and they were lying back to me and my boss and we all lied to each other everyday in the office..... :unsure:

Thats how I would sum up the whole recruitment industry.....one for Eric me thinks; a whole LIAR INDUSTRY :lol:

Truly unbelievable, god knows how they stayed in business.

AJ

God, is it still the same? I was a recruitment 'consultant' for 7 months in the 1980s. It was the most awful goddamn job I've ever had.

Everything you say is absolutely spot on.

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I. Hate. Recruitment consultants.

There, I've said it, I'm glad that's off my chest. They rank lower than EA's IMO. In the scheme of things they're below dogs and rats, above pond slime. Just. Well the 'office angels' type ones anyway. I've had some decent dealings with professional consultants, but the temping agencies used to make me want to vomit, when I was a student.

Why is it they have a window full of adverts, but no jobs?

I worked as a financial recruitment consultant for a 18 months after quitting research, and I completely agree with you. I was only there to clear my student loans, which I did quickly, and I was only dealing with high end placements (FDs and FCs), but some of the people I worked with would sell their grandmothers to satan for a fee. I watched people lie through their teeth about jobs to candidates, and candidates to employers, all egged on by the boss of the business. I never hated a period of my life more than working in that office.

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I never hated a period of my life more than working in that office.

Good. It's great to hear from you ex 'consultants' that you hated yourselves as much as the candidates you lied to hated you. Your clients think you are scum as well.

I've dealt with plenty, every word out of their mouths is a lie. I don't know how they sleep at night. Scum.

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