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Why do tin foil hatters get such a bad reputation when all their most paranoid predictions come true a few years down the line? One common thread in tin-foil hattism is the idea of troops patrolling the streets military-dictatorship style:

This is now hapening in Italy:

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/07/29/europe/italy.php

Also, John McCain, who wants to lead the USA, spiritual home of tin foil hattism, wants an Iraq-style surge into poor, high crime neighbourhoods. If you've seen French flick, District 13, there's a story involving the use of a neutron bomb to wipe out the undesirables. Why not?

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/20...rge-on-the.html

With the credit crunch clearly going to be far more devastating than the meejduh dare admit, I'm sure similar plans are afoot in the UK.

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We are seeing a breakdown in one-worldism into supremacism, whether ethnic, national or religious. There is even 'defensive supremacism', as exhibited by Israel, i.e. the need to be on top to survive. The USA and Iran are showing similar tendencies, and resurgent Russia and China are beginning to do so again too.

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The Italians must be on drugs - every man and his dog knows you can't use trained killers as police. The chances of "accidents" are high and will have serious political impact.

Madness. At least in the UK it's unlikely to happen soon, we ain't got no troops left to use!

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Why do tin foil hatters get such a bad reputation when all their most paranoid predictions come true a few years down the line? One common thread in tin-foil hattism is the idea of troops patrolling the streets military-dictatorship style:

This is now hapening in Italy:

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/07/29/europe/italy.php

Also, John McCain, who wants to lead the USA, spiritual home of tin foil hattism, wants an Iraq-style surge into poor, high crime neighbourhoods. If you've seen French flick, District 13, there's a story involving the use of a neutron bomb to wipe out the undesirables. Why not?

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/20...rge-on-the.html

With the credit crunch clearly going to be far more devastating than the meejduh dare admit, I'm sure similar plans are afoot in the UK.

You can bet on it.The fact that these countries are doing the same thing similtaneously can mean only one of two things:

world war or international emergency.

maybe world war is only the facade to gear up for the international emergency.

Me being a tin-foil-hat wearing tribulation starts in 2010 type,I have a hunch it's both.

All you have to do is read the bible for the sequence of events,and you can judge the timeline.

I'm a bit skeptical of the neutron bomb thing,the more likely scenario is the doomsday sterilised by massive solar flare.

Edited by oracle

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The Italians must be on drugs - every man and his dog knows you can't use trained killers as police. The chances of "accidents" are high and will have serious political impact.

Bear in mind though that continental policing is traditionally different to the UK. There has always been a closer link between the armed forces and the police on the continent - a legacy of the Napoleonic Code - and organisations like the Carabinieri are paramilitary in nature. British police forces, by contrast, have always stressed their regional and civilian status (ie, non-national, unarmed and wearing civilian-style clothing rather than military uniforms) specifically because the Georgians deeply objected to the concept of policing by militia.

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Troops were used in UK on the streets until a few years ago - in Northern Ireland - with good reason.

Using troops as police back-up is OK as long as they are under police command and unarmed in most instances. Their military training would be of great benefit, so if they as 'lent' as police back-up it would have to be clearly defined as such.

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every man and his dog knows you can't use trained killers as police.

At least trained killers would save us some money in the long run. They'd only need to pump 2-3 bullets into innocent tube travelers, not a wasteful 8.

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Why do tin foil hatters get such a bad reputation when all their most paranoid predictions come true a few years down the line? One common thread in tin-foil hattism is the idea of troops patrolling the streets military-dictatorship style:

actually, we said 'storm troopers based on every street corner. to round up undesirables.

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A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years.

Great nations rise and fall. The people go from bondage to spiritual truth, to great courage, from courage to liberty, from liberty to abundance, from abundance to selfishness, from selfishness to complacency, from complacency to apathy, from apathy to dependence, from dependence back again to bondage.

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Troops were used in UK on the streets until a few years ago - in Northern Ireland - with good reason.

Using troops as police back-up is OK as long as they are under police command and unarmed in most instances. Their military training would be of great benefit, so if they as 'lent' as police back-up it would have to be clearly defined as such.

In a past life I used to be involved in joint military/police operations in the UK (training against the threat of chem/bio/radiological improvised bomb/dispersal devices). This is still a home office led operation and although the military pretty much have 95% of the expertise to deal with the devices, and provide most of the personnel - it is still a policeman/woman (chief super of constabulary, or COBR) who is in charge.

I would expect the same to apply here. One area of interest however would be the rules of engagement for military personnel, which at present for benign environments (ie Bosnia as opposed to Iraq) are still very different to police rules of engagement here in the UK. Also, if the military end up policing the sink estates, we must remember that many squaddies are from the same or similar sink estates themselves.......I don't think the'd be too keen on killing their own - it's also not what they joined for. If they wanted to police the UK, they'd have joined the police ;)

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who wote that?

No one knows. It can be traced back to 1959.

It neatly describes the fall of the Roman republic into the reign of Julius Caesar and on. So it could be yet older than that.

I'd like to think its buried somewhere in the latin tracts of the Roman historians. We need a classicist to help us out on this.

(A constitutional monarchy seems to be a way out of the vicious cycle... until they are replaced by an elected queen like Tony Blair).

Edited by 2MeterBear

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WE tin foil hatters were warning about average speed check cameras and no one listened and now we have the poping up all over the place and we are warning about RFID implants and meet with the same responce.

Wake up people it's your life and you can make a difrence.

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Also, if the military end up policing the sink estates, we must remember that many squaddies are from the same or similar sink estates themselves.......I don't think the'd be too keen on killing their own - it's also not what they joined for. If they wanted to police the UK, they'd have joined the police ;)

You got it wrong a big rule of murdering your own civilians is to send soldiers from a different region to do the killing , therefore if you want to wipe out the civilians in Manchester you don;'t send in the Lancashire regiments you send in a Scottish or a London based regiment, if you want to massacre the Londoners you send in the Scots.

The Scots hearing that their own have been massacred by London platoons will be much happier to massacre Londoners, etc...

Mental conditioning before hand to dehumanise the 'terrorists' will occur submlininal programming will occur while soldiers sleep.

As said in 1989 PLA soldiers were ok about killing people in Beijing , they would be much less likely to do so if they themselves had grown up and lived in Beijing.

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The "authorities" know full well the hard times to come. They are preparing the ground for the inevitable and, from their perspective, necessary suppression of the mass of the population.

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Yes , there was an old story in an old book I forget the name of , it said that nuclear power was seen as an option not only to solve energy problems, but once populations got out of control , conveinent (intentional) nuclear melt downs would occur in large population centres wiping out the chaff of the population.

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In a past life I used to be involved in joint military/police operations in the UK (training against the threat of chem/bio/radiological improvised bomb/dispersal devices). This is still a home office led operation and although the military pretty much have 95% of the expertise to deal with the devices, and provide most of the personnel - it is still a policeman/woman (chief super of constabulary, or COBR) who is in charge.

I would expect the same to apply here. One area of interest however would be the rules of engagement for military personnel, which at present for benign environments (ie Bosnia as opposed to Iraq) are still very different to police rules of engagement here in the UK. Also, if the military end up policing the sink estates, we must remember that many squaddies are from the same or similar sink estates themselves.......I don't think the'd be too keen on killing their own - it's also not what they joined for. If they wanted to police the UK, they'd have joined the police ;)

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actually, we said 'storm troopers based on every street corner. to round up undesirables.

But, of couse it will be done on the cheap. PCSO's who will be told zero tollerance litter bugs. 'slightly windy troopers'

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I remember the police needing over 200 armed units in order to search a few shops in Finsbury Park (weapons, drugs, etc), and it being routine to turn up with such a small army in 'trouble spots' because smaller units would not survive the task.

So, Mr. Tinfoilhat, this is an old hat in the UK too.

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Why do tin foil hatters get such a bad reputation when all their most paranoid predictions come true a few years down the line?

A conspiracy only needs two people (or more) making plans to the detriment of a third party and yet whenever the suggestion is made that such a thing has happened you get all kinds of fools slagging of the idea.

It would actually be a miracle if more than 10 minutes passed in any major city without a new conspiracy of some sort being formed <_<

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You got it wrong a big rule of murdering your own civilians is to send soldiers from a different region to do the killing , therefore if you want to wipe out the civilians in Manchester you don;'t send in the Lancashire regiments you send in a Scottish or a London based regiment, if you want to massacre the Londoners you send in the Scots.

This has already sort of happened, 1919 during the "Red Clydeside" era.

"The campaign for a 40-hour week and improved conditions for the workers took hold of organised labour. On January 31, 1919, a massive rally organised by the trade unions took place on George Square in the centre of Glasgow. It has been estimated that as many as 90,000 were present, and the Red Flag was raised in the centre of the crowd. Massive brawls between the police and demonstrators took place, with a police tram being overturned after the Riot Act was read.

The Liberal government panicked, fearing a possible threat to order or even a Bolshevik-style insurrection. It was only 14 months since the Russian Revolution, and the German Revolution was in progress in January 1919. Troops based in the city's Maryhill barracks were locked inside their post, with English troops and tanks sent into the city to control unrest and extinguish any revolution that should break out. No Scottish troops were deployed, with the government fearing that fellow Scots, soldiers or otherwise, would go over to the workers' side if a revolutionary situation developed in Glasgow. English troops were transported from England and stationed in Glasgow specifically to combat this possible scenario."

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