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A Sign Of The 'times' ? : Bricks & Mortar Has Shrunk

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Got a real shock yesterday.

Got my usual copy of the TIMES on Friday.

I buy it to see what drivle they are writing in their BRICKS & MORTER supplement.

(Funny enough it was in this very supplement (in October 2003) that I first heard about HOUSEPRICECRASH.CO.UK.

The women who wrote the main introductiin (ANNE ASHWORTH) was maoning about this site, and how she said there was never going to be a property crash !)

Anyway the main paper felt less thick than usual.

I was moaning to my other half saying that I wished I had checked inside the paper when I payed for it as I had a sneaky feeling the BRICKS & MORTER supplement was not inside the paper.

Anyway we eventually found the BRICKS & MORTER supplement. My god its' shrunk to about half the size !

Not sure how many pages it normally has but think its about 20.

It now has 10.

What I notice is that it has the same amount of journalist articles (over about 5 pages) as usual but only about 5 pages of ads (which is still too much in my opinion). Normally ha about 20 pages of ads.

Blimey things must be bad, they can't afford to advertise their overpriced shoe boxes/rabbit hutches any more, or maybe they just don't see the point!

Its so funny cos normally in BRICKS & MORTAR they try ANYTHING to put a positive slant on the property market.

But now they CANNOT, they really are stuffed. The women who normally writes the man page is on leave and another younger women is writing it and she is must more 'honest' about the situation, she is more 'doom and gloom' than we are if thats possible.

I reckon this supplement and all the others like it in other papers will be disappearing over the next few weeks/months :P

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you and me both courtesy of Anne. I was reading her reference in a 'wacky warehouse' play area whilst my 2 year old beat all the other kids up :o Thankfully his behaviour has improved...I'll let you or Paddles finish of the punchline regarding Anne's.... ;)

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you and me both courtesy of Anne. I was reading her reference in a 'wacky warehouse' play area whilst my 2 year old beat all the other kids up :o Thankfully his behaviour has improved...I'll let you or Paddles finish of the punchline regarding Anne's.... ;)

Anne Ashworth has done a lot to promote this site! I also discovered it through a copy of the Times supplement, which I found left on a London bus in 2004.

Seriously, though, the shrinking of a supplement like Bricks & Mortar is, surely, indicative of a big change in sentiment. When the current re-runs of Location x 3 finish, I wonder how many property shows will be clogging up our screens. Commissioning editors are probably having a big rethink right now.

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you and me both courtesy of Anne. I was reading her reference in a 'wacky warehouse' play area whilst my 2 year old beat all the other kids up :o Thankfully his behaviour has improved...I'll let you or Paddles finish of the punchline regarding Anne's.... ;)

Yes, its what they would call the KENNEDY moment. A moment so 'historic' you can recall exactly where you were and what you were doing, the way most people can recall where they were when they heard of the death of KENNEDY, DIANA or ELVIS!

I was in my staff canteen at lunch reading the supplement and rushed straight back to my desk, I was perspiring with anticipation (and I really do mean that!) and logged into the computer so fast I thought I would set it on fire !

When I read there was a site called HOUSEPRICECRASH.CO.UK I really thought this women (ANNE ASHWORTH) was joking! I could not believe it. It was like the answer to all my prayers.

I remember printing off some of the Forum posts and reading on the way home on the bus.

Mostly it was a guy called TIME TO RAISE THE RENTS arguing with others. The main 'discussion' seemed to be that interest rates would NEVER go below about 3% (or something like that).

Then a few weeks later KIRSTY did her famous 'rant' against HPC on LONDON TONIGHT and the rest as they say is history !

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There must have been a very small community at the time she wrote. Did she see it as a threat do you think? I'm not sure why she would point out a small community of nutjobs contrarians at the height of the property boom. If she'd taken the HPC message and spread that instead of ramping house prices then...then she'd not have got anything published :angry:

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I had just woken up, and thought you meant actual bricks and mortar was half the size (for new build flats probably).

doh!

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Yes, its what they would call the KENNEDY moment. A moment so 'historic' you can recall exactly where you were and what you were doing, the way most people can recall where they were when they heard of the death of KENNEDY, DIANA or ELVIS!

I was in my staff canteen at lunch reading the supplemtent and rushed straight back to my desk, I was perspiring with anticipation (and I really do mean that!) and loggec into the computer so fast I thought I would set it on fire !

When I read there was a site called HOUSEPRICECRASH.CO.UK I really thought this women (ANNE ASHWORTH) was joking! I could not believe it. It was like the answer to all my prayers.

I rememeber printing off some of the Forum posts and reading on the way home on the bus.

Mostly it was a guy called TIME TO RAISE THE RENTS arguing with others. The main 'discussion' seemed to be that interest rates would NEVER go about 3% (or something like that).

Then a few weeks later KIRSTY did her famous 'rant' against HPC on LONDON TONIGHT and the rest as they say is history !

and so many were realising house were over priced back in Oct 2003, and other than 'taking a punt' could not afford the mortgage on an average price property without living on beans on toast. Scary how quickly five years passes though eh?

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I had just woken up, and thought you meant actual bricks and mortar was half the size (for new build flats probably).

doh!

Tell you what DARKMAN go back to sleep till Christmas, We'll wake you up then and your dream will be a reality !!! :rolleyes:

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There must have been a very small community at the time she wrote. Did she see it as a threat do you think? I'm not sure why she would point out a small community of nutjobs contrarians at the height of the property boom. If she'd taken the HPC message and spread that instead of ramping house prices then...then she'd not have got anything published :angry:

that wasn't the height though was it? Prices had bumbled along up to early 2003, then they exploded in some areas they have doubled since, some trebled.

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The local pwoperdee section in our local free rag is minimum 50% smaller than Spring 2007. It's not just because it's Summer - it's been shrinking for months.

As a fan of overseas pwoperdee porn, I watch Real Estate TV a fair amount. They are now owned by the News Corp/Int, the owners of the Times newspaper.

"Bricks & Mortar" is advertised quite a lot on it now for those people "in the know". The number of advertisers on Real Estate TV seems to have nosedived in the last 12 months. If you watch "Overseas Property Shop" on the channel, it now just seems to repeat the same few developments - just a few months ago, there were loads of different developments being advertised.

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that wasn't the height though was it? Prices had bumbled along up to early 2003, then they exploded in some areas they have doubled since, some trebled.

With reference to the graph on the homepage, I was thinking of the steepness of the slope rather than the distance from the x-axis. But I was a bit off as Nationwide data shows the height of the boom was Q12003 with 25.8% annual inflation. Ashworth was writing after Q32003's disappointing (I should think, for her) 17.1% inflation. Maybe that spooked her into needing a scapegoat.

Does anyone have the article? I can't google it.

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Anne Ashworth has done a lot to promote this site! I also discovered it through a copy of the Times supplement, which I found left on a London bus in 2004.

Seriously, though, the shrinking of a supplement like Bricks & Mortar is, surely, indicative of a big change in sentiment. When the current re-runs of Location x 3 finish, I wonder how many property shows will be clogging up our screens. Commissioning editors are probably having a big rethink right now.

If you're interested, July 2008 Location, Location is currently averaging 2.73 million viewers per episode*. I make this around 600,000 plus per week down on the same period last year.

With waning audiences, and a growing anger among the public, commissioning editors would be wise to remove this pedestrian, misleading guff from our screens.

I suggest Allsop and Spencer take their rather embarrassing 'chemistry' to one of the more obscure shopping channels. Preferably one screened in Bulgaria or similar.

* Source: Broadcast Magazine.

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If you're interested, July 2008 Location, Location is currently averaging 2.73 million viewers per episode*. I make this around 600,000 plus per week down on the same period last year.

With waning audiences, and a growing anger among the public, commissioning editors would be wise to remove this pedestrian, misleading guff from our screens.

I suggest Allsop and Spencer take their rather embarrassing 'chemistry' to one of the more obscure shopping channels. Preferably one screened in Bulgaria or similar.

* Source: Broadcast Magazine.

What is intersting is that they are still screening these programmes at all. It shows the desperate poverty of television production for the last 10 years that their only stock of repeats from the recent past is now an era out of date.

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