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Golden Trough Award

Director of Corporate Services

Employer: HAMPSHIRE COUNTY COUNCIL

Industry: Government - Local government, Government - General, Senior executive - Commercial, Senior executive - General, Senior executive - Government

Contract: Permanent

Hours: Full Time

Salary: Circa £150,000

Silver Trough Award

Group Chief Executive

Employer: FLAGSHIP HOUSING GROUP

Location: Norwich

Industry: Housing - General, Housing - Housing services, Senior executive - General, Senior executive - Professional, Senior executive - Public sector

Contract: Permanent

Hours: Full Time

Salary: Circa £150,000

The Twilight Zone

Cultural Develoment Manager, PRESTON CITY COUNCIL

Category Manager, DEPARTMENT OF WORK & PENSIONS-1

Substance Misuse Analyst, LONDON BOROUGH OF ENFIELD

Senior Community Safety Officer, LONDON BOROUGH OF BRENT |

Configuration and Change Manager, IDENTITY AND PASSPORT SERVICE-1

Stronger Communities Project Officer, LONDON BOROUGH OF MERTON

Interpretation and Outreach Officer, HEREFORDSHIRE COUNCIL

Service Director - Strategy and Commissioning, WILTSHIRE COUNTY COUNCIL

Information Governance Officer, LONDON BOROUGH OF TOWER HAMLETS

Deputy Team Manager, SHEFFIELD CITY COUNCIL

Definitive Map Officer, NORTHAMPTONSHIRE COUNTY COUNCIL

Senior Community Safety Officer, LONDON BOROUGH OF BRENT

Partnership Development Officers, WOKINGHAM BC

Stronger Communities Project Officer, LONDON BOROUGH OF MERTON

Performance and Business Improvement Officer, LONDON BOROUGH OF MERTON

Diversity and Community Cohesion Manager, LONDON BOROUGH OF MERTON

Consultation and Community Engagement Manager, LONDON BOROUGH OF MERTON

Stronger Communities Manager, LONDON BOROUGH OF MERTON

Prevention & Development Officers (2 posts), NOTTINGHAM CITY COUNCIL

Public Policy Advisors, FRESH MINDS

Supplier Relationship Management Team Leader, DEPARTMENT OF WORK & PENSIONS-1 |

SENIOR ARTS DEVELOPMENT OFFICER (YOUTH & EDUCATION), CHELMSFORD BOROUGH COUNCIL

Leicester and Leicestershire Housing Market Area New Growth Point Coordinator, LEICESTER CITY COUNCIL

Childrens Commissioning Manager, LEEDS CITY COUNCIL

Principal Officer (Business and Contracts) - Children, LEEDS CITY COUNCIL

Head of Strategic HR, RURAL PAYMENTS AGENCY

Adult's Strategy & Performance Manager

Assistant Portfolio Management Officer, BRISTOL CITY COUNCIL

Programme Director - World City, LONDON COUNCILS-1

Programme Director – Fair Funding, LONDON COUNCILS-1

Enviro Enforcement officer, ENFORCEMENT JOBS

Area Manager Additional Superintendent Registrar, SURREY COUNTY COUNCIL

Corporate Strategy and Performance Advisor, SOUTHEND ON SEA BOROUGH COUNCIL

Community Safety Partnership and Engagement Adviser, IMPROVEMENT & DEVELOPMENT AGENCY

Executive Officer - Sustainable Development Officer, DRIVING STANDARDS AGENCY

Health Trainer, LONDON BOROUGH OF HOUNSLOW

Resources Officer, LONDON BOROUGH OF HOUNSLOW

Local Children's Services Partnership Managers, KENT COUNTY COUNCIL

Local Authority Designated Manager (LADO), MILTON KEYNES COUNCIL

Extended Schools Cluster Co-ordinator, LONDON BOROUGH OF TOWER HAMLETS

Information Governance Team Manager, LEICESTER CITY COUNCIL

Performance and Review Officer, BUCKINGHAMSHIRE COUNTY COUNCIL

Person Centred Review Coordinator (One Post), LONDON BOROUGH OF BARNET

Negotiating Body - Chair, DEPT FOR CHILDRENS SCHOOLS AND FAMILIES

Assistant Director of Training and Doctrine, Emergency Planning College, York

Head of Corporate Management, COLCHESTER BOROUGH COUNCIL

Public Arts Officer, ESSEX COUNTY COUNCIL

Senior Compliance Adviser, TRANSPORT FOR LONDON

Project Manager (Carers Strategy), BRISTOL CITY COUNCIL

Team Manager - Adults, WEST SUSSEX COUNTY COUNCIL

COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT MANAGER, ROYAL BOROUGH OF KENSINGTON AND CHELSEA

Schools and Families Learning Officer, LONDON BOROUGH OF HACKNEY

Community Safety Team Leader, COMMUNITY SAFETY SKILLS

Community Safety Team Manager, COMMUNITY SAFETY SKILLS

Supporting People Manager, DEVON COUNTY COUNCIL

Joint Strategic Commissioning Managers (x2), DEVON COUNTY COUNCIL

Principal Policy Officer Equality, SHEFFIELD CITY COUNCIL

Senior Policy Officers Equalities, NORTH YORKSHIRE COUNTY COUNCIL

Senior Policy Officers Community Safety, NORTH YORKSHIRE COUNTY COUNCIL

Programme Manager Ref: SS540, WALSALL METROPOLITAN BOROUGH COUNCIL

Head of Younger People Services, STOKE ON TRENT CITY COUNCIL

Head of Older People Services, STOKE ON TRENT CITY COUNCIL

Director of Adult Social Care, Health & Communities, STOKE ON TRENT CITY COUNCIL

Commissioning Support Manager, LONDON BOROUGH OF BARKING AND DAGENHAM-1

Strategic Commissioning Manager x 3, LONDON BOROUGH OF BARKING AND DAGENHAM-1

Extended School Cluster Co-ordinator, LONDON BOROUGH OF WANDSWORTH

Performance and Improvement Officer, NORTH EAST DERBYSHIRE DISTRICT COUNCIL

Parenting Commissioner, MANCHESTER CITY COUNCIL

Communications and Marketing Officer

HEAD OF PARKING OPERATIONS, ROYAL BOROUGH OF KENSINGTON AND CHELSEA

Environmental & Sustainability Manager - London

Information and Service Delivery Manager

Performance and Improvement Manager - Community Safety

Customer Traffic Manager

Climate Change and Sustainability Manager, SURREY COUNTY COUNCIL

Partnership Fundraising and Project Officer, COMMUNITY SAFETY SKILLS

Project Manager (Green Infrastructure and Green Space)

Starter Conference Producer

Conference Producer, public sector, ALBANY APPOINTMENTS

Community Safety Policy & Strategy Manager, COMMUNITY SAFETY SKILLS

Democratic Services Officer, LONDON BOROUGH OF HACKNEY

Head of Culture, LONDON BOROUGH OF NEWHAM

Membership Services Manager, WAKEFIELD METROPOLITAN DISTRICT COUNCIL

Newham Link Engagement Officer, BLACK & ETHNIC MINORITY COMMUNITY CARE FORUM

Newham LINk Facilitator, BLACK & ETHNIC MINORITY COMMUNITY CARE FORUM

Equality and Diversity Projects Officer (Corporate Equalities), LONDON BOROUGH OF RICHMOND UPON THAMES

Service Director - Younger Adults, BIRMINGHAM CITY COUNCIL

Senior Practitioners, DONCASTER COUNCIL

Research and Strategic Intelligence Manager, ELEVATE EAST LANCASHIRE

Partnership & Involvement Manager

Governance Manager

Interim Publicity and Communications Officer

Team Support Officer, CITY OF WESTMINSTER COUNCIL

Other Tax Abusers

Director of Adult Services

Employer: HAMPSHIRE COUNTY COUNCIL

Industry: Government - Local government, Senior executive - Government, Social care - Older people's services

Contract: Permanent

Hours: Full Time

Salary: Circa £140,000

Chief Executive

ISLE OF WIGHT PRIMARY CARE TRUST

Location: Isle of Wight

Industry: Health - Health management, Senior executive - General, Senior executive - Health

Contract: Permanent

Hours: Full Time

Salary: c£145,000

Strategic Director of Regeneration and Neighbourhoods

Employer: LONDON BOROUGH OF SOUTHWARK

Industry: Housing - General, Housing - Regeneration, Senior executive - General

Contract: Permanent

Hours: Full Time

Salary: Up to £140,025 + up to 15% PRP, benefits and relocation

Executive Director - Corporate Services

Employer: VEREDUS EXECUTIVE RESOURCING

Location: London

Industry: Legal, Senior executive - Public sector

Contract: Permanent

Hours: Full Time

Salary: Up to £140k possibly more for an exceptional candidate

Executive Director - Commissioning

Employer: VEREDUS EXECUTIVE RESOURCING

Posted: 22 Jul 2008

Location: London

Industry: Legal, Marketing & PR - Not for profit, Senior executive - General, Social care - Criminal justice

Contract: Permanent

Hours: Full Time

Salary: Up to £140k possibly more for an exceptional candidate

Executive Director - Business Support

Location: London

Industry: Legal,

Marketing & PR - General,

Senior executive - General

Contract: Permanent

Hours: Full Time

Salary: Up to £140k possibly more for an exceptional candidate

Director of Children, Schools and Families

Employer: LONDON BOROUGH OF MERTON

Industry: Senior executive - General, Social care - Children's care

Contract: Permanent

Hours: Full Time

Salary: Up to £135k

Director of Adult and Community Services

Employer: LONDON BOROUGH OF RICHMOND UPON THAMES

Location: Richmond upon Thames

Industry: Government - Local government, Health - Community, Senior executive - Government, Social care - Older people's services

Contract: Permanent

Hours: Full Time

Salary: UP TO £125K

Director of Place Shaping and Enterprise

Employer: LONDON BOROUGH OF ENFIELD

Industry: Government - Local government, Senior executive - General, Senior executive - Government, Senior executive - Public sector

Contract: Permanent

Hours: Full Time

Salary: £113,238 - £133,221 plus up to 10% PRP

Chief Executive

Employer: MANCHESTER CITY COUNCIL

Location: North West - Greater Manchester

Industry: Government - Local government, Senior executive - Government

Contract: Permanent

Hours: Full Time

Salary: circa £120k

Chief Executive

Employer: SOUTH SOMERSET HOMES LTD

Industry: Housing - General,

Senior executive - General,

Social care - Older people's services

Contract: Permanent

Hours: Full Time

Salary: £115K + generous package

Assistant Director Planning & Public Protection

Employer: LONDON BOROUGH OF CAMDEN

Industry: Environment - Planning, Environment - Urban, Senior executive - Government, Senior executive - Public sector

Contract: Permanent

Hours: Full Time

Salary: £85,950 – £105,050

Assistant Director Planning & Public Protection

Employer: LONDON BOROUGH OF CAMDEN

Industry: Environment - Planning, Environment - Urban, Senior executive - General

Contract: Permanent

Hours: Full Time

Salary: £85,950 - £105,050

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Children's care
Contract: Permanent
Hours: Full Time
Salary: Up to £135k

Children's directorship pays quite well.

I have asked my local MP to push for a Parliamentary Inquiry into LA salaries--my area (Brighton) have among the highest and the Argus repoprted that there is a wall of secrecy concerning the pay levels as they are not made public.

I would not be surprised if they are paying themselves 250k for top management jobs and perhaps as much as 350k for senior positions.

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Children's care
Contract: Permanent
Hours: Full Time
Salary: Up to £135k

Children's directorship pays quite well.

I have asked my local MP to push for a Parliamentary Inquiry into LA salaries--my area (Brighton) have among the highest and the Argus repoprted that there is a wall of secrecy concerning the pay levels as they are not made public.

I would not be surprised if they are paying themselves 250k for top management jobs and perhaps as much as 350k for senior positions.

"Oh but we need these salaries to attract the best talent!!!"

Yes, because the civil service/local government are all brilliantly run with these people at the helm arn't they?!?

They'll need millions more for management consultants, on top of their £150 k salaries to tell them how to do their own job. Blue Sky thinking see!!?

The wife is knitting names in scarfs as we speak.

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"Oh but we need these salaries to attract the best talent!!!"

Yes, because the civil service/local government are all brilliantly run with these people at the helm arn't they?!?

They'll need millions more for management consultants, on top of their £150 k salaries to tell them how to do their own job. Blue Sky thinking see!!?

The wife is knitting names in scarfs as we speak.

I have a suspicion that these grossly overpaid jobs are nearly all insider dealing positions. They are advertised to the public but only friends and relatives of the bosses actually get them. Nepotism has been rife in goverment for thousands of years. It goes with the "job."

Will MPs investigate it? Unlikey given the levels of nepotism going on in Parliament with wives, mothers and nieces beihg "employed."

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I have a suspicion that these grossly overpaid jobs are nearly all insider dealing positions. They are advertised to the public but only friends and relatives of the bosses actually get them.

Do you have any examples of this? I have never seen it happen. I have seen it look like it had happened once, and it was all over the papers and there was a big independent inquiry, which eventually decided it hadn't happened.

I thought you were in the West Midlands? Anyway, the Chief Exec of Brighton and Hove earns £160k, so while I'd happily swap, it certainly isn't anywhere near £350k, even if you include the pension contributions and so on.

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FFS Dog will you stop posting this stuff on here you keep making me ill and we can;t stop it any unless Vince Cable was P M he is the only one whoever raaces these kind of issues and that will never happen

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Children's care
Contract: Permanent
Hours: Full Time
Salary: Up to £135k

Children's directorship pays quite well.

I have asked my local MP to push for a Parliamentary Inquiry into LA salaries--my area (Brighton) have among the highest and the Argus repoprted that there is a wall of secrecy concerning the pay levels as they are not made public.

I would not be surprised if they are paying themselves 250k for top management jobs and perhaps as much as 350k for senior positions.

Would not surprise me in the slightest RB, in the meantime dinnerladies will have to put up with a 2% payrise this year. That's Labour's so-called socialism for you.

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roll call of the imminent spurious

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would any of the above be missed if the positions were not filled?

all that Job (title) Creation to get bins emptied badly every week or two, and the odd parking fine.

Stronger Communities Project Officer, LONDON BOROUGH OF MERTON

Performance and Business Improvement Officer, LONDON BOROUGH OF MERTON

Diversity and Community Cohesion Manager, LONDON BOROUGH OF MERTON

Consultation and Community Engagement Manager, LONDON BOROUGH OF MERTON

Stronger Communities Manager, LONDON BOROUGH OF MERTON

real value add for the community - that's what i like to see

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I'll add these to the website tonight.

Ha Ha.

I will be starting a similar site called SelfAbuserOfTheWeek.co.uk

The new number one this week is David Orr from the NHF.

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Do you have any examples of this? I have never seen it happen. I have seen it look like it had happened once, and it was all over the papers and there was a big independent inquiry, which eventually decided it hadn't happened.

I thought you were in the West Midlands? Anyway, the Chief Exec of Brighton and Hove earns £160k, so while I'd happily swap, it certainly isn't anywhere near £350k, even if you include the pension contributions and so on.

Moved in May to the Brighton area as this is earmarked for the most dramatic falls in prices and I thought we should have a HPCer on the ground to grease the wheels a little!

Do you have alink for the Brighton LA salaries? Argus ran an article very recently where there was a wall of secrecy about local salaries. 160k is, of course, an enormous amount to pay a local civil servant (considereing the PM "only" gets 187k) but I suspect the package is well north of 250k.

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http://www.localgov.co.uk/index.cfm?method...il&id=69046

22 July 2008
Councils drive up salaries in the search for top officers
Dermott Calpin
Local authorities are driving up salary costs by competing with each other to recruit chief executives from a shrinking pool of talent, according to the Audit Commission.
A discussion paper published by the commission says that local authorities rely too heavily on existing chief executives to fill vacancies, creating a domino effect across several councils as they end up recruiting from each other.
The Tougher at the Top? paper suggests this ‘restricted recruitment pool’ leads to salary increases as authorities compete to recruit or retain chief executive from the most successful councils and it says the situation is aggravated by a lack of proper succession planning.

Now we know why they are paid so much! Self-perpetuating bidding bubble. :lol::lol:

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Do you have alink for the Brighton LA salaries? Argus ran an article very recently where there was a wall of secrecy about local salaries. 160k is, of course, an enormous amount to pay a local civil servant (considereing the PM "only" gets 187k) but I suspect the package is well north of 250k.

I appreciate that, but as I've said before I don't think it's a fair comparison.

Politicians should expect to take a pay cut - politics is a vocation not just a career. Local government on the staff side, while a lot of us may find it more rewarding than the private sector, is still 'just a job'. The correct comparison would be with the head of the civil service, not the head of the elected government.

Alternatively, the correct comparison for the Prime Minister would be with the Leader of Brighton and Hove Council, not the Chief Exec. That figure, last year, was the rather more realistic £38,000 (probably still on the high side for the Leader of a smallish Council, but hardly megabucks)

http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/2154654.0/?...amp;cid=1333722

http://www.brighton-hove.gov.uk/index.cfm?request=c1001387

Edited by jdc

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Moved in May to the Brighton area as this is earmarked for the most dramatic falls in prices and I thought we should have a HPCer on the ground to grease the wheels a little!

Do you have alink for the Brighton LA salaries? Argus ran an article very recently where there was a wall of secrecy about local salaries. 160k is, of course, an enormous amount to pay a local civil servant (considereing the PM "only" gets 187k) but I suspect the package is well north of 250k.

Put in an Freedom of Information request - if it's a Director, it's open to the public. Post the results back here. If you don't get any joy, report it to the Information Commissioner - most people in the publice sector have a healthy fear of him.

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Do you have any examples of this? I have never seen it happen. I have seen it look like it had happened once, and it was all over the papers and there was a big independent inquiry, which eventually decided it hadn't happened.

I thought you were in the West Midlands? Anyway, the Chief Exec of Brighton and Hove earns £160k, so while I'd happily swap, it certainly isn't anywhere near £350k, even if you include the pension contributions and so on.

Jobs like 'Director of Children's services' are being advertised at £120K+. This sort a job however could easily be handled by a mother who had brought up a couple of childen. All she would require is common sense, motivation and basic leadership skills. If this was a genuinely competetive jobs market, these sorts of appointments would attract sack loads of well qualified candidates at £35K. The fact that people are being paid 6 figure sums for these jobs is clear evidence that this is a rigged jobs market.

Some weeks we find councils advertising for up to 10 positions at the £100K+. Are you really telling me that these are genuine and honest appointments. Where else to you see so many senior appointments advertised in one go?

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I appreciate that, but as I've said before I don't think it's a fair comparison.

Politicians should expect to take a pay cut - politics is a vocation not just a career. Local government on the staff side, while a lot of us may find it more rewarding than the private sector, is still 'just a job'. The correct comparison would be with the head of the civil service, not the head of the elected government.

Alternatively, the correct comparison for the Prime Minister would be with the Leader of Brighton and Hove Council, not the Chief Exec. That figure, last year, was the rather more realistic £38,000 (probably still on the high side for the Leader of a smallish Council, but hardly megabucks)

http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/2154654.0/?...amp;cid=1333722

http://www.brighton-hove.gov.uk/index.cfm?request=c1001387

Thanks for the link. The quote below sums it up IMV. 170k for a council exec in charge of Worthing--hardly a major city. Off sick from 2003 until 2007??????? "Undisclosed" pay-off? Very suspicious IMO.

In 2005-6, the top earner in Sussex was Sheryl Grady, then Worthing Borough Council's chief executive, who had gone on sick leave in December 2003.
She took early retirement and received an undisclosed pay-off. Her total earnings were £170,000, according to figures released to the TaxPayers' Alliance.

Someone posted a 220k salary for a chief exec of a council in East Anglia somewhere which I believe was suggested as a record for a base salary. Its not so much that these people get paid as much, or more, than the PM but the fact that the base salary does not include the "perks" which, even in industry, equal or surpass the base salary.

My brother-in-law was, until very recently, the CEO (general manager) for a UK based subsidiary of Honeywell Inc and he was being paid around 150k including bonuses. The company had gross revenues in the billions. A local council worker shold be seen as a form of civl servant with the public's interests in view. I cannot see how more than around 70k could be justified. When the top civil service (in the broadest sense of the word) worker gets around 188k (PM) it should set the benchmark for lesser jobs all the way down to LA workers. The top person for the GLC might be worth 150k for example and a small LA such as Worthing should be commensuratley less and so forth.

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Jobs like 'Director of Children's services' are being advertised at £120K+. This sort a job however could easily be handled by a mother who had brought up a couple of childen. All she would require is common sense, motivation and basic leadership skills. If this was a genuinely competetive jobs market, these sorts of appointments would attract sack loads of well qualified candidates at £35K. The fact that people are being paid 6 figure sums for these jobs is clear evidence that this is a rigged jobs market.

Some weeks we find councils advertising for up to 10 positions at the £100K+. Are you really telling me that these are genuine and honest appointments. Where else to you see so many senior appointments advertised in one go?

Jobs for the lads. I am certain of it. Its been going on for centuries! NEPOTISM is rife in this country and around the world. Our MPS are at it so why not their local counterparts?

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Jobs like 'Director of Children's services' are being advertised at £120K+. This sort a job however could easily be handled by a mother who had brought up a couple of childen.

I just don't understand this point of view. It takes a massive amount of specialist knowledge of the law, the ability to manage a huge staff, and plan a budget running into potentially £100million depending on the size of the council. It's like saying that because I make my own lunch every day I could be the Chief Exec of Pizza Express.

Some weeks we find councils advertising for up to 10 positions at the £100K+. Are you really telling me that these are genuine and honest appointments. Where else to you see so many senior appointments advertised in one go?

Yes. If you see that then one of two things has happened - they've had a restructuring which is serious enough that they have to readvertise jobs (in which case I agree that a lot of them will go to the people who've already got them, but that's quite different from nepotism), or else a new Chief Executive has joined, encouraged a load of people they don't rate to move on, and is building a new top team.

In so far as there is favouritism in the latter case, the furthest it goes in my experience is that the same recruitment agency that recruited the Chief Exec will probably get a juicy contract for recruiting the rest - I'm inclined to think there'd be a lot of efficiency here via central advertising, but I'm not an expert and I suspect if they weren't in the papers and so on there'd be even more criticism about 'inside jobs'.

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When the top civil service (in the broadest sense of the word) worker gets around 188k (PM)

Well, the legally top civil service worker is Gus O'Donnell, and he's on around 240k, but actually his direct responsibilities are smaller than the chief exec of a large council, albeit more important. He's not the best paid 'civil servant' in the broadest sense though. People who get more than him include, I believe, the chief exec of the post office, the head of the NHS, and the top technical bod at HMRC.

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What the hell is a 'Director of Place Shaping and Enterprise' anyway?

Council tax has soared over the past 15 years. They always have the guilt-tripping defence about making the area better etc, needing top candidates etc. I can see a parking bay with no sign from my window. The council is happy to ticket cars that make the mistake of parking there, rather than fix the rusting pole where the sign used to be. Funny that eh? The small things..

Director of Place Shaping and Enterprise

Employer: LONDON BOROUGH OF ENFIELD

Industry: Government - Local government, Senior executive - General, Senior executive - Government, Senior executive - Public sector

Contract: Permanent

Hours: Full Time

Salary: £113,238 - £133,221 plus up to 10% PRP

Edited by cheeznbreed

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What the hell is a 'Director of Place Shaping and Enterprise' anyway?

Reading the advert it appears to be mostly Regeneration, Housing, Asset Management, and Parks.

I could explain my tiresome theory as to why they've called it that rather than something more obviously sensible, but it would be a toss-up who fell asleep first, me or you.

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I just don't understand this point of view. It takes a massive amount of specialist knowledge of the law, the ability to manage a huge staff, and plan a budget running into potentially £100million depending on the size of the council. It's like saying that because I make my own lunch every day I could be the Chief Exec of Pizza Express.

Yes. If you see that then one of two things has happened - they've had a restructuring which is serious enough that they have to readvertise jobs (in which case I agree that a lot of them will go to the people who've already got them, but that's quite different from nepotism), or else a new Chief Executive has joined, encouraged a load of people they don't rate to move on, and is building a new top team.

In so far as there is favouritism in the latter case, the furthest it goes in my experience is that the same recruitment agency that recruited the Chief Exec will probably get a juicy contract for recruiting the rest - I'm inclined to think there'd be a lot of efficiency here via central advertising, but I'm not an expert and I suspect if they weren't in the papers and so on there'd be even more criticism about 'inside jobs'.

It takes no skill at all to run a department badly. It also takes very little skill to run a department moderately well with a bloated budget. All you have to do is delegate to consultants and contractors.

The UK has very low levels of productivity when compared to other developed countries. This is almost entirely attributable to the very poor levels of productivity in our public services. We are being dragged down by light weights with big budgets.

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It takes no skill at all to run a department badly. It also takes very little skill to run a department moderately well with a bloated budget. All you have to do is delegate to consultants and contractors.

£115k to run something well is very likely to be better value for money than £35k and a load of consultants running around all over the place making work for everyone and themselves!

Contractors we've discussed before I think, weren't you the one posting that they were ripping off naive councils who paid way over the odds?

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I could explain my tiresome theory as to why they've called it that rather than something more obviously sensible, but it would be a toss-up who fell asleep first, me or you.

lol! I think 'local government is infested with consultant-driven jargon, which is designed to make someone appear more clever than the actually are' might suffice for my explanation.

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