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On Dec. 6th 1988, 143 member-states endorsed UNGA Resolution 43/54C, depicting Israeli policy as the major barrier to peace in the Middle East.

Again, only 2 countries voted against the resolution.

The United States & Israel.

Either, the WHOLE WORLD is Anti-Semitic, OR as is more likely, the rest of the World, not subject to the same propaganda & media distortion, sees the Palestinians as legitimate freedom fighters & not as 'terrorists'.

America has VETOED 39 UN Security Council Resolutions to sheild Israel from Criticism.

On 10th Nov 1975, the United Nations General Assembly passed Resolution 3379, which determined that;

"Zionism is a form of racism & racial discrimination."

The resolution was annulled by Res 46/86 on December 16, 1991 after pressure from America.

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On Dec. 6th 1988, 143 member-states endorsed UNGA Resolution 43/54C, depicting Israeli policy as the major barrier to peace in the Middle East.

etc.

It's an interesting point & one I have sympathy with ... but where's the relevance to this forum, mate?

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I await a detailed analysis of the rationale for Israeli policy.

There is no logical rationale. Israel is an illegitimate state.

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There is no logical rationale. Israel is an illegitimate state.

Yes, that is what the current fascists of the left and the Islamist camps would like you to believe.

Have a look here: www.tellthechildrenthetruth.com instead to find out the history of the Nazi-Islamist connection.

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Ten questions to the Zionists

by Rabbi Michael Dov Weissmandl 1948

1. Is it true that in 1941 and again in 1942, the German Gestapo offered all European Jews transit to Spain, if they would relinquish all their property in Germany and Occupied France; on condition that:

a) none of the deportees travel from Spain to Palestine; and

B) all the deportees be transported from Spain to the USA or British colonies, and there to remain; with entry visas to be arranged by the Jews living there; and

c) $1000.00 ransom for each family to be furnished by the Agency, payable upon the arrival of the family at the Spanish border at the rate of 1000 families daily.

2. Is it true that the Zionist leaders in Switzerland and Turkey received this offer with the clear understanding that the exclusion of Palestine as a destination for the deportees was based on an agreement between the Gestapo and the Mufti.

3. Is it true that the answer of the Zionist leaders was negative, with the following comments:

a) ONLY Palestine would be considered as a destination for the deportees.

B) The European Jews must accede to suffering and death greater in measure than the other nations, in order that the victorious allies agree to a "Jewish State" at the end of the war.

c) No ransom will be paid

4. Is it true that this response to the Gestapo's offer was made with the full knowledge that the alternative to this offer was the gas chamber.

5. Is it true that in 1944, at the time of the Hungarian deportations, a similar offer was made, whereby all Hungarian Jewry could be saved.

6. Is it true that the same Zionist hierarchy again refused this offer (after the gas chambers had already taken a toll of millions).

7. Is it true that during the height of the killings in the war, 270 Members of the British Parliament proposed to evacuate 500,000 Jews from Europe, and resettle them in British colonies, as a part of diplomatic negotiations with Germany.

8. Is it true that this offer was rejected by the Zionist leaders with the observation "Only to Palestine!"

9. Is it true that the British government granted visas to 300 rabbis and their families to the Colony of Mauritius, with passage for the evacuees through Turkey. The "Jewish Agency" leaders sabotaged this plan with the observation that the plan was disloyal to Palestine, and the 300 rabbis and their families should be gassed.

10. Is it true that during the course of the negotiations mentioned above, Chaim Weitzman, the first "Jewish statesman" stated: "The most valuable part of the Jewish nation is already in Palestine, and those Jews living outside Palestine are not too important". Weitzman's cohort, Greenbaum, amplified this statement with the observation "One cow in Palestine is worth more than all the Jews in Europe".

There are additional similar questions to be asked of these atheist degenerates known as "Jewish statesmen", but for the time being let them respond to the ten questions.

These Zionist "statesmen" with their great foresight, sought to bring an end two two-thousand years of Divinely ordained Jewish subservience and political tractability. With their offensive militancy, they fanned the fires of anti-Semitism in Europe, and succeeded in forging a bond of Jew-hatred between Nazi-Germany and the surrounding countries.

And then theres the Nazi-Zionist connections Cinnamon

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Sorry old bean, I don't quite get it. Some Zionist organisations were not as supportive as they should have been to a rabbi working bravely to save people from the gas chambers. Shameful, but not a Nazi connection as far as I can see, more a misguided commitment to dogma / failure to understand the severity of the situation.

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And then theres the Nazi-Zionist connections Cinnamon

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Aha, so the Zionists refused to save the Jews and organised the holocaust in connivance with the Nazis in your eyes?

What were the Zionists (who at this point were a few thousand people) supposed to do against the worlds superpower du jour?

(...)

You know, I don't mind arguing about stuff, but a certain level of feasibility has to be. This is one of the most stupid and uneducated attempts at launching an anti-semitic smear that I've seen in a long while.

Cinnamon, who needs enemies, not victims.

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Yes, that is what the current fascists of the left and the Islamist camps would like you to believe.

Have a look here: www.tellthechildrenthetruth.com instead to find out the history of the Nazi-Islamist connection.

So do those people denying Palestine the right to exist belong to the current fascists of the right and the Christian/Zionist/Jewish camps?

Israel and Palestine are not legitimate states until they determine their borders with each other. If Hindus were the Jews and Sikhs were the Arabs and the Hindus treated the Sikhs the way the Jews have treated the Arabs (both Christian and Islamic) over the last 60 years, the world would be up in arms about it.

Zionist racism, murder and colonialism is as ugly as any other form of racism, murder and colonialism, and screaming Holocaust all you like won't change that. It makes me sick how the Holocaust is cheapened and denigrated by those who seek to defend Israel, and so would its victims. :(

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So do those people denying Palestine the right to exist belong to the current fascists of the right and the Christian/Zionist/Jewish camps?

Israel and Palestine are not legitimate states until they determine their borders with each other. If Hindus were the Jews and Sikhs were the Arabs and the Hindus treated the Sikhs the way the Jews have treated the Arabs (both Christian and Islamic) over the last 60 years, the world would be up in arms about it.

Zionist racism, murder and colonialism is as ugly as any other form of racism, murder and colonialism, and screaming Holocaust all you like won't change that. It makes me sick how the Holocaust is cheapened and denigrated by those who seek to defend Israel, and so would its victims. :(

Oh FFS Pacific State, read the link and let it sink in that those people are pedigree nazis or search the net if you don't like that source, to find more of the depressing same, if only you're brave enough to look. Your heros are criminals against humanity.

The Holocaust is NOT cheapened by pointing out Yassar Arafat's direct links to the Nazis, by pointing out Hamas and Muslim Brotherhoods fascist agenda that reaches back over 100 years and well predates the German Nazis.

If anything it's explained better that way and it also explains why Hamas are still calling for a genocide of the Jews, in their Covenant.

Hope this helps, sorry to spoil the illusion of innocence and righteousness that you had of the Palestinian leadership.

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Aha, so the Zionists refused to save the Jews and organised the holocaust in connivance with the Nazis in your eyes?

Your building quite an impressive straw man there my friend.

What were the Zionists (who at this point were a few thousand people) supposed to do against the worlds superpower du jour?

um accept the offers given by the Nazis to save the lifes of the jewish populations Weissmandl quotes?

anti-semitic smear

Well you fall over straight away there in having any sort of meaninful debate by failing to distinguish (the basic) difference between anti-Zionism and anti-Semitism.

So Weissmandl was a "self-hater" was he?

Hamas are anti-seminites?!

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Have a look here: www.tellthechildrenthetruth.com instead to find out the history of the Nazi-Islamist connection.

Im not sure what your point here is Cinnamon? Is it a general point on Islam - that Jews need their own homeland in the middle east because they are persecuted by Islam. That is patent nonsense. Iran recently complained that Israel was encouraging its Jewish population to emigrate (They particapated in Irans Holocaust conference although the BBC didnt mention that funnily enough). If your point is that all religions have extremists that forge unholy alliances than fair enough.

btw that site mentions ironically enough the "Armenian Genocide". Only Israel/US/Turkey opposed a motion to commemorate it was a "holocaust". Big bucks and emotions to be had in trade marking the Holocaust industry.

Hamas Condemns the Holocaust

As the Palestinian people prepare to commemorate the 60th anniversary of the Nakba ("catastrophe") - the dispossession and expulsion of most of our people from our land - those remaining in Palestine face escalating aggression, killings, imprisonment, ethnic cleansing and siege. But instead of support and solidarity from the western media, we face frequent attempts to defend the indefensible or turn fire on the Palestinians themselves.

One recent approach, which seems to be part of the wider attempt to isolate the elected Palestinian leadership, is to portray Hamas and the population of the Gaza strip as motivated by anti-Jewish sentiment, rather than a hostility to Zionist occupation and domination of our land. A recent front page article in the International Herald Tribune followed this line, as did an article for Cif about an item broadcast on the al-Aqsa satellite TV channnel about the Nazi Holocaust.

In fact, the al-Aqsa Channel is an independent media institution that often does not express the views of the Palestinian government headed by Ismail Haniyeh or of the Hamas movement. The channel regularly gives Palestinians of different convictions the chance to express views that are not shared by the Palestinian government or the Hamas movement. In the case of the opinion expressed on al-Aqsa TV by Amin Dabbur, it is his alone and he is solely responsible for it.

It is rather surprising to us that so little attention, if any, is given by the western media to what is regularly broadcast or written in the Israeli media by politicians and writers demanding the total uprooting or "transfer" of the Palestinian people from their land.

The Israeli media and pro-Israel western press are full of views that deny or seek to excuse well-established facts of history including the Nakba of 1948 and the massacres perpetrated then by the Haganah, the Irgun and LEHI with the objective of forcing a mass dispossession of the Palestinians.

But it should be made clear that neither Hamas nor the Palestinian government in Gaza denies the Nazi Holocaust. The Holocaust was not only a crime against humanity but one of the most abhorrent crimes in modern history. We condemn it as we condemn every abuse of humanity and all forms of discrimination on the basis of religion, race, gender or nationality.

And at the same time as we unreservedly condemn the crimes perpetrated by the Nazis against the Jews of Europe, we categorically reject the exploitation of the Holocaust by the Zionists to justify their crimes and harness international acceptance of the campaign of ethnic cleansing and subjection they have been waging against us - to the point where in February the Israeli deputy defence minister Matan Vilnai threatened the people of Gaza with a "holocaust".

Within 24 hours, 61 Palestinians - more than half of them civilians and a quarter children - were killed in a series of air raids. Meanwhile, a horrible crime against humanity continues to be perpetrated against the people of Gaza: the two-year-old siege imposed after Hamas won the legislative elections in January 2006, which is causing great suffering. Due to severe shortages of medicines and food, scores of Palestinians have lost their lives.

It cannot be right that Europeans in general and the British in particular maintain a virtual silence toward what the Zionists are doing to the Palestinians, let alone supporting or justifying their oppressive policies, under the pretext of showing sympathy for the victims of the Holocaust.

The Palestinian people aspire to freedom, independence and peaceful coexistence with all their neighbours. There are, today, more than six million Palestinian refugees. No less than 700,000 Palestinians have been detained at least once by the Israeli occupation authorities since 1967. Hundreds of thousands have so far been killed or wounded. Little concern seems to be caused by all of this or by the erection of an apartheid wall that swallows more than 20% of the West Bank land or the heavily armed colonies that devour Palestinian land in a blatant violation of international law.

The plight of our people is not the product of a religious conflict between us and the Jews in Palestine or anywhere else: the aims and positions of today's Hamas have been repeatedly spelled out by its leadership, for example in Hamas's 2006 programme for government. The conflict is of a purely political nature: it is between a people who have come under occupation and an oppressive occupying power.

Our right to resistance against occupation is recognised by all conventions and religious traditions. The Jews are for us the people of a sacred book who suffered persecution in European lands. Whenever they sought refuge, Muslim and Arab lands provided them with safe havens. It was in our midst that they enjoyed peace and prosperity; many of them held leading positions in Muslim countries.

After almost a century of Zionist colonial and racist oppression, some Palestinians find it hard to imagine that some of their oppressors are the sons and daughters of those who were themselves oppressed and massacred.

Palestinians had nothing to do with the Holocaust but find themselves punished for someone else's crime. But we are well aware and warmly welcome the outspoken support for Palestinian rights by Israeli and Jewish human rights activists in Palestine and around the world.

We hope that journalists in the west will begin to adopt a more objective approach when covering events in Palestine. The Palestinian people are being killed by Israel's machine of destruction on a daily basis. Nevertheless, we still see a clear bias in favour of Israel in the western media.

The Europeans bear a direct responsibility for what is befalling the Palestinians today. Britain was the mandate authority that handed over Palestine to Israeli occupation. Nazi Germany perpetrated the most heinous crimes against Jews, forcing the survivors to migrate to Palestine in pursuit of safety. We, therefore, expect the Europeans to atone for their historic crimes by restoring some balance to the inhuman and one-sided international response to the tragedy of our people.

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Oh FFS Pacific State, read the link and let it sink in that those people are pedigree nazis or search the net if you don't like that source, to find more of the depressing same, if only you're brave enough to look. Your heros are criminals against humanity.

The Holocaust is NOT cheapened by pointing out Yassar Arafat's direct links to the Nazis, by pointing out Hamas and Muslim Brotherhoods fascist agenda that reaches back over 100 years and well predates the German Nazis.

If anything it's explained better that way and it also explains why Hamas are still calling for a genocide of the Jews, in their Covenant.

Hope this helps, sorry to spoil the illusion of innocence and righteousness that you had of the Palestinian leadership.

I am fully aware that the ordinary Palestinians have been screwed over by their leadership. That does not in any way delegitimise their rightful claim for the land they were evicted from 60 years ago.

The Holocaust is constantly denigrated and diminished by people like you. Your moral compass shames you, Cinnamon.

Israel and its supporters are ultimately planting the seeds of its own downfall by their murderous arrogance. I find it laughable that you rightly point out the moral failings of the Palestinian leadership while not mentioning the psychopaths that have run Isreal for the last 60 years.

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You really are a know-nothing. I await a detailed analysis of the rationale for Israeli policy.

Please be more specific.

Which of the facts that I presented in my videos do you dispute?

That America has used it's veto to block Israel from UN criticism 39 times?

That America (alone or in tandem with Israel) have voted against over 200 major UNGA resolutions critical of Israel &/or supporting the Palestinian cause?

That A/RES/3379 claimed Zionism to be a form of racism?

That there is a high correlation between countries receiving US aid & countries suppressing their own &/or other countires populations?

That when Turkey was the number one recipient of US aid it was suppressing Kurds or that when Columbia was it was crushing popular movements internally also?

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Sorry old bean, I don't quite get it. Some Zionist organisations were not as supportive as they should have been to a rabbi working bravely to save people from the gas chambers. Shameful, but not a Nazi connection as far as I can see, more a misguided commitment to dogma / failure to understand the severity of the situation.

No, you mispresent the point of the "10 Questions". It has nothing to do with Zionist support for Weissmandl's own attempts to rescue Jews but their refusal to accept the terms of the offers made by the Nazis to save the specific Jewish populations he quotes. But yes; you could say Zionists have a misguided commitment.

The Zionist "statesmen" ridicule the sacred oath which the Creator placed upon the Jews in the Diaspora. Our Torah, in Tractate Ksubos, folio 111, specifies that the Creator, blessed be He, swore the Jews not to occupy the Holy Land by force, even if it appears that they have the force to do so; and not rebel against the Nations...These are words of our Torah; and these concepts have been cited in Maimonides' "Igeres Teimon", "Be'er HaGola", "Ahavas Yehonosson", and in "Toras Moshe" of the Chasam Sofer.

ok some more on the Nazi-Zionist connections:

SS officer Leopold von Mildenstein and Zionist Federation official Kurt Tuchler toured Palestine together for six months to assess Zionist development there. Based on his firsthand observations, von Mildenstein wrote a series of twelve illustrated articles for the important Berlin daily Der Angriff that appeared in late 1934 under the heading "A Nazi Travels to Palestine." The series expressed great admiration for the pioneering spirit and achievements of the Jewish settlers. Zionist self-development, von Mildenstein wrote, had produced a new kind of Jew. He praised Zionism as a great benefit for both the Jewish people and the entire world. A Jewish homeland in Palestine, he wrote in his concluding article, "pointed the way to curing a centuries-long wound on the body of the world: the Jewish question." Der Angriff issued a special medal, with a Swastika on one side and a Star of David on the other, to commemorate the joint SS-Zionist visit. A few months after the articles appeared, von Mildenstein was promoted to head the Jewish affairs department of the SS security service in order to support Zionist migration and development more effectively.

Jacob Boas, "A Nazi Travels to Palestine," History Today (London), January 1980, pp. 33-38.

At the September 1935 National Socialist Party Congress, the Reichstag adopted the so-called "Nuremberg laws" that prohibited marriages and sexual relations between Jews and Germans and, in effect, proclaimed the Jews an alien minority nationality. A few days later the Zionist Jüdische Rundschau editorially welcomed the new measures:

Germany ... is meeting the demands of the World Zionist Congress when it declares the Jews now living in Germany to be a national minority. Once the Jews have been stamped a national minority it is again possible to establish normal relations between the German nation and Jewry.

Jüdische Rundschau, Sept. 17, 1935. Quoted in: Yitzhak Arad, with Y. Gutman and A. Margaliot, eds., Documents on the Holocaust (Jerusalem: Yad Vashem, 1981), pp. 82-83.

In cooperation with the German authorities, Zionist groups organized a network of some forty camps and agricultural centers throughout Germany where prospective settlers were trained for their new lives in Palestine. Although the Nuremberg Laws forbid Jews from displaying the German flag, Jews were specifically guaranteed the right to display the blue and white Jewish national banner. The flag that would one day be adopted by Israel was flown at the Zionist camps and centers in Hitler's Germany.

Lucy Dawidowicz, The War Against the Jews, 1933-1945 (New York: Bantam, pb., 1976), pp. 253-254.; Max Nussbaum, "Zionism Under Hitler," Congress Weekly (New York: American Jewish Congress), Sept. 11, 1942.; F. Nicosia, The Third Reich (1985), pp. 58-60, 217.; Edwin Black, The Transfer Agreement (1984), p. 175.

The British government imposed ever more stringent restrictions on Jewish immigration into Palestine in 1937-1939. In response, the SS security service concluded a secret alliance with the clandestine Zionist agency Mossad le-Aliya Bet to smuggle Jews illegally into Palestine. As a result of this collaboration, several convoys of ships succeeded in reaching Palestine past British gunboats. Jewish migration, both legal and illegal, from Germany (including Austria) to Palestine increased dramatically in 1938 and 1939. Another 10,000 Jews were scheduled to depart in October 1939, but the outbreak of war in September brought the effort to an end. All the same, German authorities continued to promote indirect Jewish emigration to Palestine during 1940 and 1941.

F. Nicosia, Third Reich (1985), pp. 156, 160-164, 166-167.; H. H_hne, The Order of the Death's Head (Ballantine, pb., 1984), pp. 392-394.; Jon and David Kimche, The Secret Roads (London: Secker and Warburg, 1955), pp. 39-43. See also: David Yisraeli, "The Third Reich and Palestine," Middle Eastern Studies, October 1971, p. 347.; Bernard Wasserstein, Britain and the Jews of Europe, 1939-1945 (1979), pp. 43, 49, 52, 60.; T. Kelly, "Man who fooled Nazis," Washington Times, April 28, 1987, pp. 1B, 4B. Based on interview with Willy Perl, author of The Holocaust Conspiracy.

The centerpiece of German-Zionist cooperation during the Hitler era was the Transfer Agreement, a pact that enabled tens of thousands of German Jews to migrate to Palestine with their wealth. The Agreement, also known as the Haavara (Hebrew for "transfer"), was concluded in August 1933 following talks between German officials and Chaim Arlosoroff, Political Secretary of the Jewish Agency, the Palestine center of the World Zionist Organization.

Through this arrangement, each Jew bound for Palestine deposited money in a special account in Germany. The money was used to purchase German-made agricultural tools, building materials, pumps, fertilizer, and so forth, which were exported to Palestine and sold there by the Jewish-owned Ha'avara company in Tel-Aviv. Money from the sales was given to the Jewish emigrant upon his arrival in Palestine in an amount corresponding to his deposit in Germany. German goods poured into Palestine through the Ha'avara, which was supplemented a short time later with a barter agreement by which Palestine oranges were exchanged for German timber, automobiles, agricultural machinery, and other goods. The Agreement thus served the Zionist aim of bringing Jewish settlers and development capital to Palestine, while simultaneously serving the German goal of freeing the country of an unwanted alien group.

Between 1933 and 1941, some 60,000 German Jews emigrated to Palestine through the Ha'avara and other German-Zionist arrangements, or about ten percent of Germany's 1933 Jewish population. (These German Jews made up about 15 percent of Palestine's 1939 Jewish population.) Some Ha'avara emigrants transferred considerable personal wealth from Germany to Palestine.

The Ha'avara agreement greatly contributed to Jewish development in Palestine and thus, indirectly, to the foundation of the Israeli state.

Former officials of the Ha'avara company in Palestine confirmed this view in a detailed study of the Transfer Agreement published in 1972: "The economic activity made possible by the influx German capital and the Haavara transfers to the private and public sectors were of greatest importance for the country's development."

On the Agreement in general, see: Werner Feilchenfeld, et al., Haavara-Transfer nach Palaestina (Tübingen: Mohr/Siebeck, 1972).Quoted in: Ingrid Weckert, Feuerzeichen (Tübingen: Grabert, 1981), pp. 222-223; David Yisraeli, "The Third Reich and the Transfer Agreement," Journal of Contemporary History (London), No. 2, 1971, pp. 129-148.; "Haavara," Encyclopaedia Judaica (1971), vol. 7, pp. 1012-1013.; F. Nicosia, The Third Reich and the Palestine Question (Austin: 1985), pp. 44-49.; Raul Hilberg, The Destruction of the European Jews (New York: Holmes and Meier, 1985), pp. 140-141.; The Transfer Agreement, by Edwin Black, is detailed and useful. However, it contains numerous inaccuracies and wildly erroneous conclusions. See, for example, the review by Richard S. Levy in Commentary, Sept. 1984, pp. 68-71.

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Israel and Palestine are not legitimate states until they determine their borders with each other.

They will never be legitimate. There will never be peace. The solution is -

The incorporation of the West Bank and Gaza Stripe into Israel with the granting of full citizen rights to all inhabitants including the Nakba refugees settled in surrounding countries.

There are two central problems with this proposal:

1) It means the end of the racist dream of a Zionist state.

2) Getting them to agree on a name for the new state.

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On Dec. 6th 1988, 143 member-states endorsed UNGA Resolution 43/54C, depicting Israeli policy as the major barrier to peace in the Middle East.

Again, only 2 countries voted against the resolution.

The United States & Israel.

Either, the WHOLE WORLD is Anti-Semitic, OR as is more likely, the rest of the World, not subject to the same propaganda & media distortion, sees the Palestinians as legitimate freedom fighters & not as 'terrorists'.

America has VETOED 39 UN Security Council Resolutions to sheild Israel from Criticism.

On 10th Nov 1975, the United Nations General Assembly passed Resolution 3379, which determined that;

"Zionism is a form of racism & racial discrimination."

The resolution was annulled by Res 46/86 on December 16, 1991 after pressure from America.

Note to Mods: Please leave in Main board for a little while, before dumping in the Off Topic/Politics Forum.

Hasn't milk gone up in price?

Thats off topic too!

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They will never be legitimate. There will never be peace. The solution is -

The incorporation of the West Bank and Gaza Stripe into Israel with the granting of full citizen rights to all inhabitants including the Nakba refugees settled in surrounding countries.

There are two central problems with this proposal:

1) It means the end of the racist dream of a Zionist state.

2) Getting them to agree on a name for the new state.

Something similar has been proposed - Isratine.

I think it would be a fantastic solution to the problem. It would provide even more of a beacon to the world than South Africa's move away from apartheid, imo.

But agreed, the Zio-fanatics would never sit with it and neither would Hamas/PLO. The problem is that Israel is full of Zio-fanatics and West Bank and Gaza are full of people who want the land stolen from them 60 years ago back.

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Hasn't milk gone up in price?

Thats off topic too!

If posts being 'off topic' was really a problem, why do so many of my extremely on topic posts get moved also?

I post many posts about Land Reform (extremely relevant to housing) & they get moved all the time....not because they are off topic, but because they threaten the Status Quo & the concept of property rights....something the STR 'scum' (quoting bruno there by the way) & property elite do not want! Something my more 'off topic' posts do also.

I notice a lot of the Anti-Gordon Brown & Anti-Labour posts are allowed to stay in the main forum (even if they are not related to housing) & nobody complains.

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On Dec. 6th 1988, 143 member-states endorsed UNGA Resolution 43/54C, depicting Israeli policy as the major barrier to peace in the Middle East.

Again, only 2 countries voted against the resolution.

The United States & Israel.

Either, the WHOLE WORLD is Anti-Semitic, OR as is more likely, the rest of the World, not subject to the same propaganda & media distortion, sees the Palestinians as legitimate freedom fighters & not as 'terrorists'.

America has VETOED 39 UN Security Council Resolutions to sheild Israel from Criticism.

On 10th Nov 1975, the United Nations General Assembly passed Resolution 3379, which determined that;

"Zionism is a form of racism & racial discrimination."

The resolution was annulled by Res 46/86 on December 16, 1991 after pressure from America.

Note to Mods: Please leave in Main board for a little while, before dumping in the Off Topic/Politics Forum.

Well duh! Everyone knows that Israel is an out and out criminal state. It's still in violation of resolution 242 which told it to give back all the land it annexed in the six day war. Israel claims that the resolution didn't specify "all" the land and even offered to swap some useless desert for the annexed land (which controls the water supply). It continues to build settlements as well as thet massive wall on Palestinian land (as if all of Israel wasn't built on Palestinian land). It imposes blockades in classic fashion in order to cripple the Palestinian economy as well as bulldozing homes and orchards.

DAYLIGHT ROBBERY is far more subtle.

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They will never be legitimate. There will never be peace. The solution is

The incorporation of the West Bank and Gaza Stripe into Israel with the granting of full citizen rights to all inhabitants including the Nakba refugees settled in surrounding countries.

There are two central problems with this proposal:

1) It means the end of the racist dream of a Zionist state.

2) Getting them to agree on a name for the new state.

Giving "religion" the boot would be a step in the right direction.

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Well duh! Everyone knows that Israel is an out and out criminal state.

Well not everyone; Israel has widespread grassroots support in the US.

Walter Russell Mead - The New Israel and the Old

A Gallup poll in June 1948 showed that almost three times as many Americans "sympathized with the Jews" as "sympathized with the Arabs." That support was no flash in the pan. Widespread gentile support for Israel is one of the most potent political forces in U.S. foreign policy, and in the last 60 years, there has never been a Gallup poll showing more Americans sympathizing with the Arabs or the Palestinians than with the Israelis.

Over time, moreover, the pro-Israel sentiment in the United States has increased, especially among non-Jews. The years of the George W. Bush administration have seen support for Israel in U.S. public opinion reach the highest level ever, and it has remained there throughout Bush's two terms....

These figures, dramatic as they are, also probably underestimate the true level of public support for Israel. When in a poll in 2006 the Pew Research Center asked whether U.S. policy in the Middle East was fair, favored Israel, or favored the Palestinians, 47 percent of the respondents said they thought the policy was fair, six percent said it favored the Palestinians, and only 27 percent thought it favored the Israelis. The poll was conducted during Israel's attacks against Hezbollah in southern Lebanon, when U.S. support for Israel was even more controversial than usual around the world.

To say nothing of its political support/control

Lenni Brenner

For example, why do left liberals defend Israel? One guy explained it to me, a Liberal Party representative from Manhattan on the New York City council......So he says, “Alright, I’ll tell you the way it is. In order to get elected as a liberal in New York City you have to have the Black vote, the Puerto Rican vote and the Jewish vote, because you cannot get the Irish or Italian vote. They are locked away with the right wing. But the Blacks and the Puerto Ricans do not give us any money. So please don’t tell me the terrible things the Zionist are doing to the Palestinians because it will only upset me, but I’m not going to break with my meal ticket.” That was from the horse’s mouth.

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