R K Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 (edited) http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/07/15/ba...ys_it_job_cuts/ Barclays is to axe 1,800 IT jobs in the UK as part of a major business overhaul to set up technology centres in key offshore locations around the world, with 700 workers being forced out by September.The bank first told staff about its outsourcing plans in January this year. In a canned statement Barclays said it hoped to “become one of a handful of universal banks leading the global financial services industry, helping our customers and clients throughout the world to achieve their goals. “To achieve our ambition, we need to transform to a global organisation, able to serve the needs of our customers and clients who have operations around the world.” Barclays added that it will create "centrally-managed technologies centres of excellence" [sic] in Europe, Africa and Asia. Offshore locations understood to have already been pinpointed by the company include Hungary, India and Singapore. British jobs for British workers..............and Hungarians........and Indians.......and Singaporians......and..... Edited July 16, 2008 by Red Kharma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
interestrateripoff Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 Good old cost cutting to try and stay in profit. I bet this will give a slight boost to the shares for a time as the City loves job losses news, apart from obviously there own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KingCharles1st Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 just the sort of people who can possibly stay abreast of their mortgage and credit card repayments..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lets get it right Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 So, why doesn't every IT worker in the country close their account with Barclays? I would, if I had one. Boy, I wish the internet WORKED! If Barclays got 100,000 letters from UK IT workers saying they would shut their accounts unless they keep the IT functions in the UK, they'd soon change their mind. Great globalization isn't it? You do realise that in 10 years time half this country will be out of work and we'll all be fighting for scraps. Houses will be cheap though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minos Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 So, why doesn't every IT worker in the country close their account with Barclays?I would, if I had one. Boy, I wish the internet WORKED! If Barclays got 100,000 letters from UK IT workers saying they would shut their accounts unless they keep the IT functions in the UK, they'd soon change their mind. Great globalization isn't it? You do realise that in 10 years time half this country will be out of work and we'll all be fighting for scraps. Houses will be cheap though. That long! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tin Foil Hat Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 So, why doesn't every IT worker in the country close their account with Barclays?I would, if I had one. Boy, I wish the internet WORKED! If Barclays got 100,000 letters from UK IT workers saying they would shut their accounts unless they keep the IT functions in the UK, they'd soon change their mind. Great globalization isn't it? You do realise that in 10 years time half this country will be out of work and we'll all be fighting for scraps. Houses will be cheap though. In my business I can attest to the massive amount of IT skill India has to offer, I can also attest to how it very frequently gets botched because of the faults in the specifications coming from the UK to be coded there. You can't just pick up the phone and call about a problem because of the time difference and a massive amount of cash is then spent ferrying people to and fro from India to firefight the problems. Most companies that value their reputation and project timelines move it back to the UK when they learn the hard way. Can't see Barclays being any different. I'll do a letter if there's a bunch of us up for it. TFH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 Offshore locations understood to have already been pinpointed by the company include Hungary, India and Singapore. So Hungary's offshore? That's an interesting way of putting it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
okaycuckoo Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 I think Barclays have planned something on this order for a couple of years. The closure of most of their more basic IT operations in Poole in Dorset has certainly been coming for that long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impatient_mug Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 (edited) You do realise that in 10 years time half this country will be out of work and we'll all be fighting for scraps. They said that when mining left. They said that when manufacturing left. They said that when call centers left. On each occasion they were wrong. Now it's the turn of IT, and to quote a site favorite - it's not different this time (apart from the industry of course). It truly sucks for those of us in IT - I've no idea what I'll end up doing when my job finally gets outsourced. Many of us will be faced with starting again at the bottom in a different career. Some will become long term unemployed, and others will end up in minimum wage jobs. Some will find a way of taking advantage of the situation and be better off than before. Life will go on for most outside of IT, same as it did before. EDIT: Typo, clarity. Edited July 15, 2008 by impatient_mug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markinspain Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 They said that when mining left. They said that when manufacturing left. They said that when call centers left. On each occasion they were wrong. Now it's the turn of IT, and to quote a site favorite - it's not different this time (apart from the industry of course).It truly sucks for those of us in IT - I've no idea what I'll end up doing when my job finally gets outsourced. Many of us will be faced with starting again at the bottom in a different career. Some will become long term unemployed, and others will end up in minimum wage jobs. Some will find a way of taking advantage of the situation and be better off than before. Life will go on for most, same as did before. Tell me about it! I´m an ex-contractor who could only find minimum wage work at over 40 once the original IT skill set had become obsolete. Rising out goings and rapidly disappearing savings made the emigration decision that much easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheresitgone Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 I believe that in reality there are too many people in the world for all of us of working age to be in gainful employment. Years ago it was possible for there to be just one breadwinner in a household. Perhaps the standard of living was not quite as good as some now experience but neither was our perception of how much better things could be!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
symo Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 So the wifes retail jobs gone, and now the main breadwinners job. B y e , B y e , B y e U K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MongerOfDoom Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 So, why doesn't every IT worker in the country close their account with Barclays?I would, if I had one. Boy, I wish the internet WORKED! If Barclays got 100,000 letters from UK IT workers saying they would shut their accounts unless they keep the IT functions in the UK, they'd soon change their mind. Exactly why would they want lots of soon to be unemployed people to have accounts with them? Houses will be cheap though. Dooom, doom, doom. Just what I am waiting for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Buttafueco Jr Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 They said that when mining left. They said that when manufacturing left. They said that when call centers left. On each occasion they were wrong. Now it's the turn of IT, and to quote a site favorite - it's not different this time (apart from the industry of course).It truly sucks for those of us in IT - I've no idea what I'll end up doing when my job finally gets outsourced. Many of us will be faced with starting again at the bottom in a different career. Some will become long term unemployed, and others will end up in minimum wage jobs. Some will find a way of taking advantage of the situation and be better off than before. Life will go on for most outside of IT, same as it did before. EDIT: Typo, clarity. "It truly sucks for those of us in IT " I guess it all depends on which area Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crash2006 Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 (edited) With actions like this no wonder the loud cries about lack of skills, who wants to learn IT skills knowing that large chucks of the sector are exported. Edited July 16, 2008 by crash2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yawnIHateSundays Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 Tell me about it! I´m an ex-contractor who could only find minimum wage work at over 40 once the original IT skill set had become obsolete. Rising out goings and rapidly disappearing savings made the emigration decision that much easier. That's the real problem with IT though - it can be done pretty much anywhere in the world once you have reliable, cheap high speed communications. I don't see a lot of future for it in the UK except where there is a need for local onsite support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheresitgone Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 That's the real problem with IT though - it can be done pretty much anywhere in the world once you have reliable, cheap high speed communications. I don't see a lot of future for it in the UK except where there is a need for local onsite support. Yep, don't you see the irony of it. Technology hasn't really helped the workers - just put some of them out of jobs. Will we see a revival of the Luddites Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
right_freds_dead Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 barclays are a bit like current politicians. they can be awful because every other choice is as bad. theres nowhere better to run to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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