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Well, ostensibly he stood up for what he believed in. He also happened to be right about 42 days.

He'd get my support for showing integrity. A rare enough thing these days.

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He does make some good points,but this could prove counterproductive for the tories.

we now have a leadership contest brewing between Cambo and davies.

Dis-unity within the tories could cost them the next election.

We know cambo is a wet blanket,so a little scandal about him prior to the election would be useful,then davies can take over and sort this country out.Hopefully with david icke as a deputy!! :lol:

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Man of the people or embarassing prat?

Way I read it is this -

He's never going to be PM and knows it.

He wouldn't be comfortable in a Cameron cabinet.

So he's had a pop at highlighting something he thinks is important (and his record shows that he does think it's important.)

Side note - ****** do we need a Ron Paul type in the UK political scene.

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He does make some good points,but this could prove counterproductive for the tories.

we now have a leadership contest brewing between Cambo and davies.

Dis-unity within the tories could cost them the next election.

We know cambo is a wet blanket,so a little scandal about him prior to the election would be useful,then davies can take over and sort this country out.Hopefully with david icke as a deputy!! :lol:

What's wrong with Cameron? I think he'd make and excellent PM, and nobody in the tories seems to dislike him.

(when I say excellent PM I mean he'd be liked by the sheeple. Fact on that he's be carp for the country in actuality).

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Davis done good. From now on, he will become the natural figurehead for the civil liberties movement. Someone like that is desperately needed in Parliament. Agree Injin that we also desperately need a Ron Paul type libertarian

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Davis done good. From now on, he will become the natural figurehead for the civil liberties movement. Someone like that is desperately needed in Parliament. Agree Injin that we also desperately need a Ron Paul type libertarian

I tend to agree with his opposition to stupid authoritarianism and his support for the death penalty.

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There are precious few politicians with any kind of belief. When you do get the odd one or two . . . Robin Cook, Claire Short . . . now David Davis . . . they are ostracised and demoted.

David Davis didn't achieve a great debate, no. The Tories gave him no support - pretty clear where they stand on civil liberties. State media shunned it.

Meanwhile the pollsters carried on asking loaded questions, such as 'is it right to lock up terrorists . . ' rather than, ' . . . is it right to lock up innocent people . . .' just to muddy the waters.

After the 42 days debate in the house, Anthony Wedgewood Benn commented, 'the British public has more to fear from repossession than Al Quaeda.' That said it all, really.

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A brave man irrespective of the outcome - he has earned the benefit of the doubt for now.

Man of the people?…well, he is a politician…Prat?…no ways.

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Unfortunatly he just made a fool of himself IMO. At first i was with everyone else hailing him as finally an MP with a belief system was ready to put it on the line. However, as was shown on his question time appearence, civil liberties is not his belief system as he was all for the 28 days, and was made to look like the hyporitical prat that he is.

He was merely using the public's fears as a soap box for what turned out to be a very poor performance in attempting to raise his own stock price in the tory government (knowing full well he would be re-elected).

While i totally disagree with the 42 days, never will see him as representative of my view, as unlike him, i dont agree with any form of, what amounts to hostage taking/kidnapping.

While Dai Cam is a drip, thank god this bloke didnt get in back then. People who use your fears against you are not the kind of people you want leading your country, look at Gordon Brown, Tony and Bush, Davis is the same, just in a different colour tie.

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A brave man irrespective of the outcome - he has earned the benefit of the doubt for now.

Man of the people?…well, he is a politician…Prat?…no ways.

In the spirit [or, in my case, Californian Rose, of the evening] could I congratulate the English Democrats for their best ever [?] performance in an election?

Gaun yersels!

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I'm surprised the media didn't give Labour more stick for being so spineless. The ran away from the challenge and refused to debate why they feel they need to remove our ancient rights. David Davis has once and for all nailed the lie that Labour have public support in their relentless mission to take our hard-won liberties.

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He did good. He set a precedent.

Now we need ten or more MPs standing up and saying NO in a similar manner. We might see at least a slowing in the assault on civil liberty.

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A brave man irrespective of the outcome - he has earned the benefit of the doubt for now.

Man of the people?…well, he is a politician…Prat?…no ways.

Any man that will sacrafice his own job for his beliefs deserves his job back IMO, I am no Tory lover, but the line between Tory and NuLab is so fugging blurred as they all operate in BiPolar vaccum for the intrest of thier constituents (well the rich VI ones at least).

42 days without charge, and don't forget the right to silence is now an ommision of guilt! How about we let local councils lock up any one that gets up thier nose, especially those pensioners that refuse to pay £200 a month council tax..Seriously were will it end?

No mention in the press that opinon polls now show LibDems as being the effective opposition after the next election, Yeah that's right, given the current level of support Labour are rapidly becoming a minority, infact I'd give it another 12 months until the BNP are ahead of them in the poles (pun intended) as many an out of work trades man turns his unemployment grief on his minimum wage (and still in work) immigrated work collegue.

Uncontrolled immigration, Uncontrolled housing boom, uncontrolled lending, Uncontrolled credit, Uncontrolled banks, Uncontrolled companies, Uncontrolled budget overspending...

Horrific seeeing how the %'age of public money that goes into making sure....Things are "UNDER CONTROL" and this from a guy that dares lecture the electorate about... "PRUDENCE"!

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Yeah By Election now cost 100k plus....since when, as a child I seem to remember monster raving lunnies running for many a seat, Now you need to be minted to have the chance to run, WHERE EXACTLY DOES THAT FACTOR INTO THE FREEDOM EQUATION? Just another right that has been stolen from the people!

That should stop the malcontents even attempting to run, seriously £10k Minimum? Why? If your a free loading Nut job without any support, why should you have to cough up £10K in advance, the votes have to be counted anyways, does it really cost £10K to get your name put on a ballot paper?

Oh and remember that £10K will have to be raised from post tax earnings and living expenses, how long would a minimum wage person have to work to raise that sort of cash, just for the right to run in a local election?

It's no diffrent from Robert Mugagbe.

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IMO it was a crisis of conscience and not a stunt. He's been biting his lip for years as Labour hack into our freedoms. He saw the future horrors Brown has in store for us and he simply reached the end of his tether in true Peter Finch style. He thought he could strike a chord with the British public. But he failed.

The truth is the British public couldn't give a stuff about civil liberties, legal rights, checks and balances and the hundreds of years of sacrifice, struggle and wisdom that produced them . Present them with full blown fascism and I doubt they'd raise a whimper as long as they could keep their jobs, their debt_wealth and their moron TV.

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Man of the people or embarassing prat?

I seem to be alone in thinking that this whole thing has been a farce, and apart from showing British democracy as a virtue, it has only proven it to be sad and cynical. Hre we have a man Davis quite credible in his own right as politician, in a position when in a couple of years make the changes to civil libities which are are tol he so loves.

Instead he resigns hie party of choice for so many years, goes to his constiuency and knows for sure that they would vote for him even if he said "B*LL*CKS TO THE LOT OF YOU" and he'll return to parliment as some sort of hero. Well not in my book he ain't.

Brown was expected to go to the Country half way though a term whe he didn't have to. No other sucessor had to prove himself such as major and others, and he was called a coward. The other mush knew he had nothing to lose. So with his assured victory he does not attract equalls to fight against him such as Labour, or Camaron Conservatives, and sniverling little lib dems who hang around other sh* No I won't say it, but nut cases who use a precious democracy that we take for granted where in Africa people are getting tortured and murded just for the dubious pleasure of putting a cross on a piece of paper.

Irrespective what you think about the issue this has done nothing to demonstrate political maturity which will be needed in the hard times to come.

Keep Crashing

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