March To Liberate Britain

[blankster]

Whether we like it or not, Labour is the elected government of this country. We do not elect prime ministers, although the leader of the winning party in a general election customarily becomes the prime minister. We've had unelected prime ministers before Gordon Brown - James Callaghan and John Major, to name two.

[VacantPossession]

Yes, they do need kicking out. But anyone here who really thinks either of the other two parties are going to change anything is as deluded as those who still think houses can only go up. Best thing is to show one's contempt for the whole commons by not voting, on mass. Democracy is not defined by putting a cross on a scrap of paper every five years; it's keeping tabs on the b%ggers once they've got in, and that was all swept away decades ago.

VP

[1929crash]

Whether we like it or not, Labour is the elected government of this country. We do not elect prime ministers, although the leader of the winning party in a general election customarily becomes the prime minister. We've had unelected prime ministers before Gordon Brown - James Callaghan and John Major, to name two.

Well this is true, but elected on less than 36% of the vote (22% of the electorate) with a massive majority. And I should point out that Callaghan and Major at least had to face internal party elections whereas Brown just had himself crowned.

[deflation]

Maggie had massive majorities but NEVER won the popular vote, i.e. achieved 50%. THe closest since the war was the Tories in 1955, 49.7% of the vote. Its our system that provides this.

[cockrobin]

why explain yourself?

I dont even own one house, my landlady owns 64, why should she not pay more tax whilst, she has helped to sustain the property bubble and make it impossible for the likes of you and me to own a home.

Secondly, by the time my children grown up there will be very little oil left in the world, by not removing the tax on petrol people are starting to buy smaller cars and to be more frugal and less wasteful (you should google the story of stuff)

We need to conserve energy and money and one good way for a nation that is going through a transformation from a super state completely energy independent to a state that has to import large amounts of energy, is to build better and insulate old housing stock.

I don't think there is anything in this statement that makes me a twit.

Why don't you do the only meaningful thing this current government has said in the last few years?

GO READ A BOOK!

May i suggest: High noon for natural Gas

"I have no problems with extra taxation on people whom own more than one house".

But its not just people that own more than one home.

"I have no objection to higher council tax for people whom dont insulate there house to save energy".

What if people cannot afford to insulate their homes?

"GO READ A BOOK"!

I'm reading a very good book at the moment called the time travellers wife.

Bye.

[Spoony]

Actually high oil prices are a pain, but its good for us. Its eating into the sheeples disposble income and feeding household bills inflation which also effects the amount of money people have to pay the mortgage. This will help the crash happen.

I think everybody should vote labour this time as i would like them to stay in power and be held to account for the absolute mess they have got the UK into rather than the Tories having to clear up the mess, then being blamed for it like usual.

[smiffy1967]

"I have no problems with extra taxation on people whom own more than one house".

But its not just people that own more than one home.

"I have no objection to higher council tax for people whom dont insulate there house to save energy".

What if people cannot afford to insulate their homes?

"GO READ A BOOK"!

I'm reading a very good book at the moment called the time travellers wife.

Bye.

The tax policy in this country favors rich people, rich people own lots of houses, if rich people want to own lots of houses and become there own little housing associations but unlike HA which is non profit, then they should pay much more tax for helping to distort the property market and buying into krusty's fantasy island! They should have tried to create real wealth.

If people are too poor to insulate there homes, then policy should be implemented by government on energy providers to do this and recoup the costs via billing (which will be less to the consumer as there bills will decline) it will also provide gainful employment for all the laid off builders!

STOP READING FANTASY

[The Spaniard]

My goodness! You really think that you are correct. Maybe you are being ironic. Maybe not.

The nominative case pronoun "he", rather than the accusative case pronoun "him", is grammatically correct.

Whether such correct use is the vernacular is perhaps another matter.

Any irony is due to incorrect grammar in a post that itself strongly criticized the grammar of the referenced article.

[Vaevictus]

I would love to join him as i hate this government, but he is talking out of his ass!

I have no problems with extra taxation on people whom own more than one house.

I have no objection to higher council tax for people whom dont insulate there house to save energy.

I have no objections to the high price of petrol, it has made people more aware that oil is finite and wasting energy will leave generations to come with a devoid planet, quite possibly devoid in not being able to support them due to our greedy wasteful society.

From reading what the guy has to say, is it a wonder that he is on minimum wage?

If people don't want to insulate their house that's up to them don't you think? It's their decision if they want to spend more money on fuel. This is something that the free market will sort out, like a million other things. It will get to a point where people will insulate on their own free will because it makes irrefutable sense. Like how people are being a bit more frugal with their petrol.

Also, why should someone pay an extra tax on owning a second house? If they rent it out, they already pay capital gains tax. If they leave it empty, it's up to them - it is THEIRS!

edit: wine

[Far Out Bear]

I would love to join him as i hate this government, but he is talking out of his ass!

I have no problems with extra taxation on people whom own more than one house.

I have no objection to higher council tax for people whom dont insulate there house to save energy.

I have no objections to the high price of petrol, it has made people more aware that oil is finite and wasting energy will leave generations to come with a devoid planet, quite possibly devoid in not being able to support them due to our greedy wasteful society.

From reading what the guy has to say, is it a wonder that he is on minimum wage?

then you are a complete c0ck sir

(edited to change the way i spelled c0ck to stop it being censored)

[Far Out Bear]

If people don't want to insulate their house that's up to them don't you think? It's their decision if they want to spend more money on fuel. This is something that the free market will sort out, like a million other things. It will get to a point where people will insulate on their own free will because it makes irrefutable sense. Like how people are being a bit more frugal with their petrol.

Also, why should someone pay an extra tax on owning a second house? If they rent it out, they already pay capital gains tax. If they leave it empty, it's up to them - it is THEIRS!

edit: wine

you are wasting your breath trying to enlighten this tw@t. he has become brainwashed with left wing liberal politics. we have all been force fed it from birth, so we have our work cut out to get the libertarian message out.

[mon-keyhanger]

The nominative case pronoun "he", rather than the accusative case pronoun "him", is grammatically correct.

Whether such correct use is the vernacular is perhaps another matter.

Any irony is due to incorrect grammar in a post that itself strongly criticized the grammar of the referenced article.

You are not saying anything to back up your statement. You are simply saying that 'he' is correct. Why is the nominative case correct rather than the accusative?

The immigrants he talks about =(THEY) [Nom./subject] - - -have a better grasp of the English language than - - -(him). [Accus./object]

They have more apples than we................. NOT us. ??????????????????

[The Spaniard]

You are not saying anything to back up your statement. You are simply saying that 'he' is correct. Why is the nominative case correct rather than the accusative?

The immigrants he talks about =(THEY) [Nom./subject] - - -have a better grasp of the English language than - - -(him). [Accus./object]

They have more apples than we................. NOT us. ??????????????????

The sentence in question is:

The immigrants he talks about have a better grasp of the English language than him.

I take its intended meaning to be:

The immigrants he talks about have a better grasp of the English language than he has.

The verb "has" at the end of the sentence is omitted for brevity, but it is to be understood by the reader.

This is an example of ellipsis. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elliptical_construction

The strict meaning of the sentence with "him" rather than "he" would be that the immigrants have a better grasp of the English language than they they do (have a grasp) of him.

Similary for your sentence "we" is correct, not "us".

[right_freds_dead]

You mean "than he", I think.

Grammar indeed!

[Guest Skint Academic]

The sentence in question is:

The immigrants he talks about have a better grasp of the English language than him.

I take its intended meaning to be:

The immigrants he talks about have a better grasp of the English language than he has.

The verb "has" at the end of the sentence is omitted for brevity, but it is to be understood by the reader.

This is an example of ellipsis. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elliptical_construction

The strict meaning of the sentence with "him" rather than "he" would be that the immigrants have a better grasp of the English language than they they do (have a grasp) of him.

Similary for your sentence "we" is correct, not "us".

And my colleagues wondered why I didn't want to be a cunning linguist ...

[workhou]

A march like this is exactly what the UK needs. Brits standing up for themselves!

I have emigrated but I was itching for a march like this when I was still in Blighty. Don't be so apathetic get out there.

I'll be sending a link on to friends and family in the UK. Evil prevails when good men do nothing.

[cockrobin]

Yes it seems they've finaly caught up with the Tories. All they need now is something as evil as the poll tax was nearly 20 years ago. Sorry pal, but this is no socialist goverment, they are a caretaker tory government through and through. How else could they have let big business and the banks run the agenda?

Crap.

[markinspain]

And my colleagues wondered why I didn't want to be a cunning linguist ...

Because one slip of the tongue and you´re in the s*it?

[Guest Skint Academic]

Because one slip of the tongue and you´re in the s*it?

[colutd1]

you must be 18 lol we had thatcher major blair and brown , what excitement over bloody eton m8, the parties are now irellavant , you vote for the red money printers or the blue money printers, and if we get a bit revolutionary, the green party will have to meet with nwo spokesperson murdoch and the sun will say vote for the green money printer, boris got a clap at the cricket this morning, makes me puke, you may of paid off most of my comrades but you not got me, one against the lot lol, remember in ussr some 15 years ago the did a survey into employment , they found the girls favourite occupation was prostitution, and the boys selling drugs. now its turned full circle, so your teachers and no it alls dont know sweet f a after all, education education education, two parties of the same plain gordon or plain jayne, this is far worse than 1929, we should examine the word independant not, i know its 2, nobody is independant really. we need some new bartering system , and stop printing loads more money, tax money off people who got it the worlds changing peoole make money out of new things, we used to get a lot of tax off pubs, there going backwards, we used to get a lot off houses there going backwards, everything still there but being moved around, so 5% do well 95% do bad, its just there is a new 5% , buy your commodity and bury it, weather we get deflation sooner or later the banks will let out there printed money and will cause more inflation, did they print as much in the 20s before 29 i doubt it, remember dow jones jan 61 read 630 jan 81 read 1,000 so thats 58% up in 20 years, from jan 81 1,000 to jan 2001 reads 10940 lol thats 1094% in next 20 years so if we look at the dow like fruit machine , the fruit machine is not full up and will take off you until it is full up again, the world markets follow u s a markets lol, you should be worried who the money printer is and how accountable he is, not the stupid front person , gordon there are 2 millon silent votes out there for a cannabis tax , for every smoker now there must be at least a pot smoker 1 in 4 easy, thats 7 or 8% of electors who do not vote, get them all out you win an election, the young would go for it, but you old g i ts in power there clever old gits sorry, gordons being run and so is eton, not one important mp slags off usa why cause there on a bung, not one mp goes on about money printing, at least with eton i wont be confused , i ll have more fire, which ill bloody need, thatcher made her money out of WALLS ICE CREAM , SHE MADE MR WHIPPY STUFF, SHE PUT AIR IN ICE CREAM AND PROFITS SOARED, SO THATCHER MADE HER MONEY OUT OF BUBBLES, LITERALLY, you mark my words, this thing starts this winter, help help help help help help help, 5 boxes on ballot paper, tory, labour, green, liberal and none of these, what % of the vote would none of these get, over 50%, lol, we must protest to defeat either, get them to show there true colours, we want pr, more different loonie mps leads to harder work for the nwo, your bound to get some pratt like me who keeps doing the talking it down bit, never shuts up and hence harder to control, if they keep shooting the me s they have reveiled their hand, labour s ******ed in big debt m8, browns going to make ramsey mcdonald look like a communist, the workers are your jewels of any business, without them you have no business, look what you taught every plum , expect now , its are right. the young are going to hate brown and eton, its so predictable, but inflation makes the payout crap, eton next time, he f u c ks up then its somebody who avoids this mess in the labour party, one day we will give up on all these idiot leaders. there is no easy answers , just more painfull or painfull, tell your people the truth and we start at mid 1932 again , the problem is this is going to go on for ever and ever, sell houses for £1 each lol you soon have 100% house price rise over the papers again , why dont any people interested in politics when they say sit on question time tell the truth, do they not know toooooo, mp stands for money printer. get out of banks now no deflation ,, here banks go bust government aint got money, so they pay you back with new money like zimbabwe, 2 naughts makes 100,000 to 1,000,thats inflation , make our money silver again, cheaper than gold, what about the property tax on the lucky ones left which ones comes out with that one first, 10 to 11 the pair, vote why bother , PROTEST, THATS THE ONLY WAY YOU GOT OF BEING HERD, I KNOW YOU WILL NOT, TO TICK UP ARE YOU NOT, YOUR ANCESTORS WOULD BE PROUD OF YOU, KEIR HARDIE WOULD BE PIS SING HIMSELF ABOUT GORDON, CHURCHILL ON THE OTHER HAND WOULD BE ALSO PI SS ING HIMSELF OVER ETON, your going to need to think in reverse and quick, a chip on your shoulder is required not a stiff upper lip.

[Quagmire]

you must be 18 lol we had thatcher major blair and brown , what excitement over bloody eton m8, the parties are now irellavant , you vote for the red money printers or the blue money printers, and if we get a bit revolutionary, the green party will have to meet with nwo spokesperson murdoch and the sun will say vote for the green money printer, boris got a clap at the cricket this morning, makes me puke, you may of paid off most of my comrades but you not got me, one against the lot lol, remember in ussr some 15 years ago the did a survey into employment , they found the girls favourite occupation was prostitution, and the boys selling drugs. now its turned full circle, so your teachers and no it alls dont know sweet f a after all, education education education, two parties of the same plain gordon or plain jayne, this is far worse than 1929, we should examine the word independant not, i know its 2, nobody is independant really. we need some new bartering system , and stop printing loads more money, tax money off people who got it the worlds changing peoole make money out of new things, we used to get a lot of tax off pubs, there going backwards, we used to get a lot off houses there going backwards, everything still there but being moved around, so 5% do well 95% do bad, its just there is a new 5% , buy your commodity and bury it, weather we get deflation sooner or later the banks will let out there printed money and will cause more inflation, did they print as much in the 20s before 29 i doubt it, remember dow jones jan 61 read 630 jan 81 read 1,000 so thats 58% up in 20 years, from jan 81 1,000 to jan 2001 reads 10940 lol thats 1094% in next 20 years so if we look at the dow like fruit machine , the fruit machine is not full up and will take off you until it is full up again, the world markets follow u s a markets lol, you should be worried who the money printer is and how accountable he is, not the stupid front person , gordon there are 2 millon silent votes out there for a cannabis tax , for every smoker now there must be at least a pot smoker 1 in 4 easy, thats 7 or 8% of electors who do not vote, get them all out you win an election, the young would go for it, but you old g i ts in power there clever old gits sorry, gordons being run and so is eton, not one important mp slags off usa why cause there on a bung, not one mp goes on about money printing, at least with eton i wont be confused , i ll have more fire, which ill bloody need, thatcher made her money out of WALLS ICE CREAM , SHE MADE MR WHIPPY STUFF, SHE PUT AIR IN ICE CREAM AND PROFITS SOARED, SO THATCHER MADE HER MONEY OUT OF BUBBLES, LITERALLY, you mark my words, this thing starts this winter, help help help help help help help, 5 boxes on ballot paper, tory, labour, green, liberal and none of these, what % of the vote would none of these get, over 50%, lol, we must protest to defeat either, get them to show there true colours, we want pr, more different loonie mps leads to harder work for the nwo, your bound to get some pratt like me who keeps doing the talking it down bit, never shuts up and hence harder to control, if they keep shooting the me s they have reveiled their hand, labour s ******ed in big debt m8, browns going to make ramsey mcdonald look like a communist, the workers are your jewels of any business, without them you have no business, look what you taught every plum , expect now , its are right. the young are going to hate brown and eton, its so predictable, but inflation makes the payout crap, eton next time, he f u c ks up then its somebody who avoids this mess in the labour party, one day we will give up on all these idiot leaders. there is no easy answers , just more painfull or painfull, tell your people the truth and we start at mid 1932 again , the problem is this is going to go on for ever and ever, sell houses for £1 each lol you soon have 100% house price rise over the papers again , why dont any people interested in politics when they say sit on question time tell the truth, do they not know toooooo, mp stands for money printer. get out of banks now no deflation ,, here banks go bust government aint got money, so they pay you back with new money like zimbabwe, 2 naughts makes 100,000 to 1,000,thats inflation , make our money silver again, cheaper than gold, what about the property tax on the lucky ones left which ones comes out with that one first, 10 to 11 the pair, vote why bother , PROTEST, THATS THE ONLY WAY YOU GOT OF BEING HERD, I KNOW YOU WILL NOT, TO TICK UP ARE YOU NOT, YOUR ANCESTORS WOULD BE PROUD OF YOU, KEIR HARDIE WOULD BE PIS SING HIMSELF ABOUT GORDON, CHURCHILL ON THE OTHER HAND WOULD BE ALSO PI SS ING HIMSELF OVER ETON, your going to need to think in reverse and quick, a chip on your shoulder is required not a stiff upper lip.

This contains 113 "," and 6 ".". Impressive.

I don't mean to offend but this is very difficult to read.

[JustAnotherProle]

Quagmire or Mr Wall of Text..paragraphs are your friend