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Nu Labour Bankrupt, Strange How It's 'gone Off The Radar'

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Anyone hear Saatchi* on R4 this morning with his Nu Labour in the dock essay? Sounded fascinating, can't find a link on the web. Basically ripped their governance to shreds "stand accused of taxing the poorest members of society greatest, therefore forcing 35million to rely on the state for handouts...." :blink: Anyhow, back on thread of title, are Nu Labuor basically resorting to a form of prostitution in order to generate cash to stave of bankruptcy?

LABOUR chiefs have been forced to resort to auctioning dates with star attractions in order to plug gaps in the partys finances.

The move follows the warning in last week’s Tribune from general secretary-elect Ray Collins that the “parlous” state of funding would mean “no prospect of extended recruiting” before the European or general election.

However, the party is now confident of averting a formal declaration of bankruptcy following the reported intervention of venture capitalist Lord Cohen and former science minister Lord Sainsbury who are understood to have provided temporary support.

A senior sourced told Tribune that the party’s financial accounts are now expected to be signed off by auditors “on the same timetable as last year”.

There were fears that the auditors would refuse to confirm that the party was solvent unless at least £4 million could be found by the end of this month.

Now, at the end of its worst period for raising cash from private supporters for more than 10 years, party officers have launched an auction with prizes including a tennis match with Tony Blair and tea with Nancy Dell’Ollio, the former partner of ex-England football coach Sven-Göran Eriksson.

Other “prizes” include a VIP day at a Formula One grand prix anywhere in the world or a swim with Little Britain star David Walliams who has swum the Channel and the straits of Dover to raise funds for charity.

Bids are currently being taken on the party’s website and the results will be announced at the party’s annual fundraising dinner on July 10, where guests are invited to pay hundreds of pounds a plate in order to share a table with a minister or the Prime Minister.

But the fundraiser will do comparatively little to dent the £24 million debt which is hanging over the party.

Mr Collins, the former Unite assistant general secretary who takes over his new post on September 1, is already working with officials and financial advisers on a new long-term financial strategy to identify “deficiencies and priorities”.

The crisis has left the party at a disadvantage in marginal constituencies where the Tory millionaire Lord Ashcroft has been pumping money into local campaigns.

http://www.tribunemagazine.co.uk/2008/06/2...financial-gaps/

*Edited due to gross stupidity, it was Saatchi not Sainsbury...

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What about a dinner date with Brown?

just shuddered as I imagined his scottish accent say CIM was twenty quid extra.

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What about a dinner date with Brown?

just shuddered as I imagined his scottish accent say CIM was twenty quid extra.

Dirge,

What's CIM?

Thanks in advance,

Mr. Parry

Pattaya, Thailand

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What about a dinner date with Brown?

just shuddered as I imagined his scottish accent say CIM was twenty quid extra.

that'd be ace, particularly when he asks for the 'doggy bag' to take the scraps home so the wife can make broth for him to take to work in a flask the next day - "waste not want not eh Gordo" be good if the restaurant was Granita..."remember this place Gordo?" ;)

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Part of Nu Labour's funding crisis stems from the collapse in party membership. People are leaving in droves because the leadership tells the membership what is going to happen, as with the Iraq war, and members who pay a subscription, think "Why the hell should I bother?"

Wales has traditionally been a strong source of support for Labour ever since thearly 1920s. Now even membership here is in sharp decline, as evidenced by a report in the Western mail of 8th JUly 2008.

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/2008/07/08/la...91466-21300657/

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saatchi not too happy with labour either Enemy of the People is published today by the Centre for Policy Studies

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jh...7/09/do0901.xml

"How many of us claim benefits from the Government? 39 per cent of households, nearly double 10 years ago. How many people are forced to claim benefits from the Government in order to pay taxes? 21 million. How much do they claim, just to pay tax? £36 billion a year. How much of the year do the poorest people spend working just to pay tax? Until the end of July.

These facts are filed today as exhibits in an indictment against "New Labour" on seven counts of conspiracy, solicitation, attempt and incitement:

Conspiracy to enslave UK citizens by making them unnecessarily dependent on the state (Count One); Conspiracy to force UK nationals to claim benefits to pay higher taxes (Count Two); Incitement of poor people to pay more tax than rich people (Count Three); Solicitation of multiple tax revenues by stealth (Count Four); Attempt to obstruct, interfere, impair, impede and defeat the right of UK nationals to independence (Count Five); Conspiracy to provide material support and resources to mesmerise and anaesthetise UK citizens (Count Six); Attempt to conceal and/or falsely represent their true status as an enemy of the people (Count Seven).

These charges are brought before "The Court of Public Opinion for the United Kingdom" by the plaintiff, the people.

There are 55 "General Allegations". These are some of them:

No.1 "From in or about May 1997 through in or about May 2008, inside the jurisdiction of the United Kingdom, the defendants, 'New Labour', did engage in a conspiracy with others, known and unknown, to make the people of the UK financially dependent on the state, and acted in furtherance of the object of their plan by covert acts."

No.2 "At all relevant times from in or about 1997 until the date of the filing of this indictment, it was a part of the conspiracy that the defendants fiscally attacked millions of people who live below the official poverty line. In furtherance of the conspiracy, and to effect the object thereof, the defendants made the poorest 10 per cent of people in the UK pay them up to 56 per cent of their income in tax."

No.13 "The defendants' methods, in their warped hierarchy of dependence, were as ruthless as they were effective. They first attempted to get innocent victims hooked on dependency with "Class C" benefits such as 'Child Benefit'; then they encouraged them to move up to 'Income Support', and then finally they administered highly addictive 'Class A' benefits in the form of 'Tax Credits'."

No.14 "In furtherance of the conspiracy and to effect the object thereof, the defendants committed various covert acts, including the invention of new taxes called "stealth taxes", with the intention of duping the people into thinking that the benefits they received cost them nothing."

No.16 "The evidence will show in Exhibit E that, cruellest of all, the defendants mercilessly selected the poorest and most vulnerable victims to extract the greatest amount of tax."

No.17 "It will be shown that these were not an assortment of unconnected events. On the contrary, they constituted a well integrated programme in which the defendants planned and collaborated among themselves and with others."

No.18 "As set out in the covert acts alleged, and depicted in Exhibit A, the defendants concocted and put into execution the 'Four-Stage Plan' to secure power over the people -

Step 1: The victims pay more tax;

Step 2: They receive "benefits" to pay the tax;

Step 3: They are grateful for the 'benefits';

Step 4: They vote for the defendants."

No.22 "Beginning on or about May 2 1997, and continuing until the date of the filing of this indictment, the defendants did knowingly, intentionally and wilfully, conspire, combine and agree together and with others unknown, to raise taxes with the intent to cause UK citizens to require benefits to pay taxes to the defendants."

No.23 "The people will introduce a statement by the Prime Minister. The people incorporate by reference the statement he made to a newspaper on the May 1, 2008. In this, he admitted his motive. In or about April 2007, he had personally authorised the doubling of the tax to be paid by the poorest people. In or about May 2008, when this came to light, he confessed to his 'mistakes'. As the statement referenced here shows, his confession did not concern the raising of the tax rate; only that he failed to provide sufficient state benefits to pay the tax:

'We made two mistakes. We didn't cover as well as we should that group of low-paid workers who don't get the working tax credits and we weren't able to help the 60- to 64-year-olds who didn't get the pensioner's tax allowance'."

No.26 "It will further be shown in Exhibit F, that at a time known as "the credit crunch", the defendants drove the people into more debt, and therefore more dependence. From in or about May 1997 to in or about May 2007, the amount of debt owed by the average household more than doubled from £23,000 to £56,000 per household; an increase in debt of £33,000."

The verdict of the court is: guilty on all counts.

The sentence of the court is handed down:

1. Participate for a minimum of five years in the "Face-To-Face Justice" scheme, in which the offenders will meet their victims, apologise for their offence, and comprehend the effect it had on their victims.

2. To reduce the risk of re-offending, a minimum period of five years of opposition will be required. The defendants will not be eligible for the Early Release scheme.

Lord Saatchi is a former chairman of the Conservative Party

Enemy of the People is published today by the Centre for Policy Studies

Have your say !!!

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saatchi not too happy with labour either Enemy of the People is published today by the Centre for Policy Studies

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jh...7/09/do0901.xml

"How many of us claim benefits from the Government? 39 per cent of households, nearly double 10 years ago. How many people are forced to claim benefits from the Government in order to pay taxes? 21 million. How much do they claim, just to pay tax? £36 billion a year. How much of the year do the poorest people spend working just to pay tax? Until the end of July.

These facts are filed today as exhibits in an indictment against "New Labour" on seven counts of conspiracy, solicitation, attempt and incitement:

Conspiracy to enslave UK citizens by making them unnecessarily dependent on the state (Count One); Conspiracy to force UK nationals to claim benefits to pay higher taxes (Count Two); Incitement of poor people to pay more tax than rich people (Count Three); Solicitation of multiple tax revenues by stealth (Count Four); Attempt to obstruct, interfere, impair, impede and defeat the right of UK nationals to independence (Count Five); Conspiracy to provide material support and resources to mesmerise and anaesthetise UK citizens (Count Six); Attempt to conceal and/or falsely represent their true status as an enemy of the people (Count Seven).

These charges are brought before "The Court of Public Opinion for the United Kingdom" by the plaintiff, the people.

There are 55 "General Allegations". These are some of them:

No.1 "From in or about May 1997 through in or about May 2008, inside the jurisdiction of the United Kingdom, the defendants, 'New Labour', did engage in a conspiracy with others, known and unknown, to make the people of the UK financially dependent on the state, and acted in furtherance of the object of their plan by covert acts."

No.2 "At all relevant times from in or about 1997 until the date of the filing of this indictment, it was a part of the conspiracy that the defendants fiscally attacked millions of people who live below the official poverty line. In furtherance of the conspiracy, and to effect the object thereof, the defendants made the poorest 10 per cent of people in the UK pay them up to 56 per cent of their income in tax."

No.13 "The defendants' methods, in their warped hierarchy of dependence, were as ruthless as they were effective. They first attempted to get innocent victims hooked on dependency with "Class C" benefits such as 'Child Benefit'; then they encouraged them to move up to 'Income Support', and then finally they administered highly addictive 'Class A' benefits in the form of 'Tax Credits'."

No.14 "In furtherance of the conspiracy and to effect the object thereof, the defendants committed various covert acts, including the invention of new taxes called "stealth taxes", with the intention of duping the people into thinking that the benefits they received cost them nothing."

No.16 "The evidence will show in Exhibit E that, cruellest of all, the defendants mercilessly selected the poorest and most vulnerable victims to extract the greatest amount of tax."

No.17 "It will be shown that these were not an assortment of unconnected events. On the contrary, they constituted a well integrated programme in which the defendants planned and collaborated among themselves and with others."

No.18 "As set out in the covert acts alleged, and depicted in Exhibit A, the defendants concocted and put into execution the 'Four-Stage Plan' to secure power over the people -

Step 1: The victims pay more tax;

Step 2: They receive "benefits" to pay the tax;

Step 3: They are grateful for the 'benefits';

Step 4: They vote for the defendants."

No.22 "Beginning on or about May 2 1997, and continuing until the date of the filing of this indictment, the defendants did knowingly, intentionally and wilfully, conspire, combine and agree together and with others unknown, to raise taxes with the intent to cause UK citizens to require benefits to pay taxes to the defendants."

No.23 "The people will introduce a statement by the Prime Minister. The people incorporate by reference the statement he made to a newspaper on the May 1, 2008. In this, he admitted his motive. In or about April 2007, he had personally authorised the doubling of the tax to be paid by the poorest people. In or about May 2008, when this came to light, he confessed to his 'mistakes'. As the statement referenced here shows, his confession did not concern the raising of the tax rate; only that he failed to provide sufficient state benefits to pay the tax:

'We made two mistakes. We didn't cover as well as we should that group of low-paid workers who don't get the working tax credits and we weren't able to help the 60- to 64-year-olds who didn't get the pensioner's tax allowance'."

No.26 "It will further be shown in Exhibit F, that at a time known as "the credit crunch", the defendants drove the people into more debt, and therefore more dependence. From in or about May 1997 to in or about May 2007, the amount of debt owed by the average household more than doubled from £23,000 to £56,000 per household; an increase in debt of £33,000."

The verdict of the court is: guilty on all counts.

The sentence of the court is handed down:

1. Participate for a minimum of five years in the "Face-To-Face Justice" scheme, in which the offenders will meet their victims, apologise for their offence, and comprehend the effect it had on their victims.

2. To reduce the risk of re-offending, a minimum period of five years of opposition will be required. The defendants will not be eligible for the Early Release scheme.

Lord Saatchi is a former chairman of the Conservative Party

Enemy of the People is published today by the Centre for Policy Studies

Have your say !!!

DOH!!! I got me Saatchis and Sainsburys muddled up, 'twas one of those mornings, one of the kids missed the school bus etc...cheers :lol: Those points one to four are shocking, the Nu Lab mainfesto in all its 'glory' :(

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What about a dinner date with Brown?

2nd prize:- two dates with Brown

3rd prize:- three dates with Brown

4th prize:- four dat.......

"Here is a special News at Ten announcement. Airports & Ferry ports & the roads leading to them are closed due to millions of people trying to leave Britain. Many deaths, thought to be from suicide, have been reported. The Prime Minister's appeal for calm appears to have exaserpated the situation. People are advised to stay at home (if they have one) & protect themselves."

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well the second two words are ' In Mouth '

Sorry in advance,

dirge :ph34r:

Oh don't . . .

I was in Pattaya the other week out on the town with the boys . . . anyway I was in this GoGo bar, in the lavs hung a strange advertisement "Vodka jelly Blow$$$$S available here! Just ask at the bar"

I didn't ask!

Horrible place Pattaya, but interesting to be a spectator for the evening.

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You just watch them try to bring in more tax-funding of political parties in the next year or so.

They will.

The sheer arrogance is breathtaking. Labour's mass membership has collapsed, meaning that they have less money to spend.

You might think that this would provoke them into reconsidering their policies, but you would be wrong.

They then borrowed money to fund their lavish PR machine. And relied on a few big donations from increasingly dodgy millionaires and from big business.

Next chapter: Labour are now struggling - the big donors have backed away, their policies still are losing them more of their once-huge mass public membership, so they will find a way of forcing the taxpayer to pay for their unpopular party machine.

Just watch them change the law to ensure that they no longer have to worry about public support!

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The best way to get rid of Labour is for people who belong to Unions to stop paying any political donations to the Labour Party through their subscriptions. I would imagine that there are lots of Union members who have no idea that they are subsiding Labour with their personal money !

Write to you Union or ...

I think there is a Form on the Internet which you can fill out which you can then send to your Union which will stop any political donations to Labour from your subscriptions.

If someone knows the URL please can they advise ?

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Oh don't . . .

I was in Pattaya the other week out on the town with the boys . . . anyway I was in this GoGo bar, in the lavs hung a strange advertisement "Vodka jelly Blow$$S available here! Just ask at the bar"

I didn't ask!

Horrible place Pattaya, but interesting to be a spectator for the evening.

i'd imagine that from a partner you know and trust that would be more than ok ... but from a stranger of no fixed gender, euughh

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i'd imagine that from a partner you know and trust that would be more than ok ... but from a stranger of no fixed gender, euughh

You need to witness the place to fully appreciate the true horror. It is both bizarre, hilarious and very sad.

I was considering writing to Channel 4 to get them to do a proper expose of the place. Saw some UK Govt stats, reckon about 20% of new male HIV cases are from blokes returrning from Thailand (Pattaya/Bangkok).

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