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Wimpey has been down all day, but it just plummeted to be the biggest FTSE listed loser.

price change % 52 wk-h 52 wk-l

27.00 4.75 14.96 360.00 31.75

Any thoughts on why, apart from the usual problems.

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Wimpey has been down all day, but it just plummeted to be the biggest FTSE listed loser.

price change % 52 wk-h 52 wk-l

27.00 4.75 14.96 360.00 31.75

Any thoughts on why, apart from the usual problems.

They build properties that are too expensive, which the banks now won't finance. All this is a bit like Hovis baking loafs and selling them for 2 Grand, then wondering why no one wants them. :blink::blink:

All they need to do to stay afloat is to build affordable properties, simple. Is this not how every other business operates - by selling a product the consumer can actually afford to buy??

Wimpey and all the rest are maniacs that deserve to go to the wall for not even knowing the basics in how to run a business. Unbelievable!!

Edited by Wait & See

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They build properties that are too expensive, which the banks now won't finance. All this is a bit like Hovis baking loafs and selling them for 2 Grand, then wondering why no one wants them. :blink::blink:

All they need to do to stay afloat is to build affordable properties, simple.

and sell off their existing stock and service their debt...

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They build properties that are too expensive, which the banks now won't finance. All this is a bit like Hovis baking loafs and selling them for 2 Grand, then wondering why no one wants them. :blink::blink:

All they need to do to stay afloat is to build affordable properties, simple.

And decent sized ones.

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They build properties that are too expensive, which the banks now won't finance. All this is a bit like Hovis baking loafs and selling them for 2 Grand, then wondering why no one wants them. :blink::blink:

All they need to do to stay afloat is to build affordable properties, simple. Is this not how every other business operates - by selling a product the consumer can actually afford to buy??

Wimpey and all the rest are maniacs that deserve to go to the wall for not even knowing the basics in how to run a business. Unbelievable!!

The basic problem is that they have paid way over the odds for land. As far as I understand it they have borrowed massively against the assumed value of this land. With this falling by the day they are basically screwed. If this is revalued to reflect the its true value then they are effectively in negative equity territory (like a lot of their customers!). :unsure:

They are totally BROKE!!!

I guess the alternative is to pretend there isn't a problem and keep an artificially high valuation on their books. This happened following the crash in Japan in the '90's with the result that even today there are plots that have been vacant for years as to sell them or build on them would be to accept their lower value. The banks might actually go along with this as otherwise the builders will be declared bankrupt and the banks will have to write off their loans.

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I'm sure I asked this ages ago and didn't really get a response:

Is there a standard measure of the average price of "land" in the UK??? (That's not a proxy... i.e. house prices)

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The basic problem is that they have paid way over the odds for land. As far as I understand it they have borrowed massively against the assumed value of this land. With this falling by the day they are basically screwed. If this is revalued to reflect the its true value then they are effectively in negative equity territory (like a lot of their customers!). :unsure:

They are totally BROKE!!!

I guess the alternative is to pretend there isn't a problem and keep an artificially high valuation on their books. This happened following the crash in Japan in the '90's with the result that even today there are plots that have been vacant for years as to sell them or build on them would be to accept their lower value. The banks might actually go along with this as otherwise the builders will be declared bankrupt and the banks will have to write off their loans.

Indeed, this can be the only explanation as to why they suddenly cant make money..... Building materials and labour are more or less the same as ten years ago, prices are three times as high..... they were making money ten years ago..... it can only be they've been silly sausages with their land purchases (that or they've been doing a Max Mosely with their profits for the last ten years).

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Indeed, this can be the only explanation as to why they suddenly cant make money..... Building materials and labour are more or less the same as ten years ago, prices are three times as high..... they were making money ten years ago..... it can only be they've been silly sausages with their land purchases (that or they've been doing a Max Mosely with their profits for the last ten years).

I can't understand how these companies can be in such a poor position having had all these years of large profits, surely they can just scale down their operations. They were making a profit when house prices were half their 'current notional value', and costs other than land have not risen all that much.

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I can't understand how these companies can be in such a poor position having had all these years of large profits, surely they can just scale down their operations. They were making a profit when house prices were half their 'current notional value', and costs other than land have not risen all that much.

Because all the money's been ciphoned off abroad, with the debt lying here

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They build properties that are too expensive, which the banks now won't finance. All this is a bit like Hovis baking loafs and selling them for 2 Grand, then wondering why no one wants them. :blink::blink:

All they need to do to stay afloat is to build affordable properties, simple. Is this not how every other business operates - by selling a product the consumer can actually afford to buy??

Wimpey and all the rest are maniacs that deserve to go to the wall for not even knowing the basics in how to run a business. Unbelievable!!

I wonder how long it will be before bread is actually 2 grand a loaf :P

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An awful lot of infrastructure to keep running on few house sales.. These big building companies are a bit like Jabba the Hut, except now they are only getting one bowl of rice a day to eat.

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I can't understand how these companies can be in such a poor position having had all these years of large profits, surely they can just scale down their operations. They were making a profit when house prices were half their 'current notional value', and costs other than land have not risen all that much.

Its easy to go bust. You just SPEND to much.

These guys bought things for too much at the wrong time.

Proves that "genius business people" are mostly the result of a boom, no skill required.

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