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These days, in my area, women look like bag ladies. Men never polish their shoes anymore. Nobody seems to have the time for general grooming.

I must in fairness put in a word for all the EAs who evidently spend ages on their uber-gelled sticky-up hairdos.

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I guess you have just made the argument as to why we really are done for in this country.A breeding cesspit of people like yourself who actually believe that you are educated,smart,intelligent and funny....

The "poppadum" man makes up over 1/3rd of all IT workforce in the USA.What do you produce in the UK and export in order to justify your self worth?

Ha, got a bite. Offended you with my terribly racist joke I expect :rolleyes:

It doesn't matter whether I think I am educated/intelligent or not. What matters is that I am.

Get a sense of humour, you d1ck.

PS Education - you would normally put a space after a comma or a fullstop.

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Ha, got a bite. Offended you with my terribly racist joke I expect :rolleyes:

It doesn't matter whether I think I am educated/intelligent or not. What matters is that I am.

Get a sense of humour, you d1ck.

PS Education - you would normally put a space after a comma or a fullstop.

Would you like some lime pickle to go with that big chapatti that seems to be on your shoulder?

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Sir Talbot Avenger, cracking post.

All this talk of wage inflation, borrocks, it can't happen!

As a small business owner, and talking to many other small business owners, the scale of this 'slow down' is becoming very apparent. Forget wage inflation, hello unemployment.

We have been well and truly fecked :angry:

Thing is though, the unions making the most noise about wage increases at the moment represent Coastguards , teachers etc. They will have to be compensated in some way that allows them to live or they will not be able to perform their duties. I agree that many small businesses will just pay off staff becuse they can`t increase wages. I don`t know anything about your business, but how many small businesses today are vital to the economy, and how many are just froth, riding the cheap credit bubble?

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Does anyone recall the Peter Snow special TV programme on the economy? I think it was probably a couple of years ago but I can't remember if it was BBC or Ch.4 (hardly likely to have been ITV or Five....).

It was taken as read that the economy was highly successful, and purported to show where the money was coming from etc. I thought at the time it was blatant propaganda, but the viewpoint was definitely the norm at the time throughout the media.

It'll be interesting to see if in a few years' time if people will look back on that programme and be able to see how they were taken in.

By syndication, copyright and state funding, the Mainstream Media has become the equivalent of the established church before the invention of the printing press, ie, controlling the masses through control of information.

The invention of the autocue, and the distraction of pictures with everything ( going live <_< ) gives a false sincerity to the diet of banal mis-information that we are drip fed every day via the 24 hour newscycle. Is there anywhere you can escape the soundbites of the moment ? Every radio station replays them on the hour every hour.

When Tim Berners Lee invented the internet, he was the modern day Guttenberg, allowing sites like this to counter the tide of deception that enters our lives every day.

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<<Is there anywhere you can escape the soundbites of the moment ? >>

To be fair, the Peter Snow thing was not really a soundbite programme. It was aimed at the more intelligent party member, if you know what I mean. It was also difficult to argue with, because we simply are not provided with the relevant facts and figures to do so.

One interesting assertion was that our current manufacturing industry produces more than it ever has in history.

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I guess you have just made the argument as to why we really are done for in this country.A breeding cesspit of people like yourself who actually believe that you are educated,smart,intelligent and funny....

The "poppadum" man makes up over 1/3rd of all IT workforce in the USA.What do you produce in the UK and export in order to justify your self worth?

That explains why all Microshafts latest products have been soooo bad.

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By syndication, copyright and state funding, the Mainstream Media has become the equivalent of the established church before the invention of the printing press, ie, controlling the masses through control of information.

The invention of the autocue, and the distraction of pictures with everything ( going live <_< ) gives a false sincerity to the diet of banal mis-information that we are drip fed every day via the 24 hour newscycle. Is there anywhere you can escape the soundbites of the moment ? Every radio station replays them on the hour every hour.

When Tim Berners Lee invented the internet, he was the modern day Guttenberg, allowing sites like this to counter the tide of deception that enters our lives every day.

very true but a minor (pedantic) point, Tim Berners Lee developed the world wide web, the internet already existed before this

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By syndication, copyright and state funding, the Mainstream Media has become the equivalent of the established church before the invention of the printing press, ie, controlling the masses through control of information.

The invention of the autocue, and the distraction of pictures with everything ( going live <_< ) gives a false sincerity to the diet of banal mis-information that we are drip fed every day via the 24 hour newscycle. Is there anywhere you can escape the soundbites of the moment ? Every radio station replays them on the hour every hour.

When Tim Berners Lee invented the internet, he was the modern day Guttenberg, allowing sites like this to counter the tide of deception that enters our lives every day.

I agree, the most irritating thing is to hear these sound bites over and over without any thought about the meaning of the words, where they come from or why they are being used. It keeps things at a distance so that people don’t have to think too hard about the reality of the situation.

The worst are these:

The War on Terror

Credit Crunch

Housing Ladder

‘Investing in property’

Doom and Gloom

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Would you like some lime pickle to go with that big chapatti that seems to be on your shoulder?

You're one of those sad little policeman types who scan the boards for any sign of non political correctness and then get yourself worked up into a right lather over it. You rarely have anything intelligent to say, just little snipes. I've lost count of the amount of times you've sniped at me but refused to actually say anything intelligent. Instead like most thick people you make assumptions about other peoples' level of intelligence/education which you cannot possibly know.

I ignore your posts, perhaps you'd care to simply ignore mine.

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You're one of those sad little policeman types who scan the boards for any sign of non political correctness and then get yourself worked up into a right lather over it. You rarely have anything intelligent to say, just little snipes. I've lost count of the amount of times you've sniped at me but refused to actually say anything intelligent. Instead like most thick people you make assumptions about other peoples' level of intelligence/education which you cannot possibly know.

I ignore your posts, perhaps you'd care to simply ignore mine.

Awww I hate it when the Woo gets up a head of steam on the old racial stuff.

He'a a bright bloke otherwise and has some interesting things to say. He has a bit of blind spot like these guys on race -

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Hey I'd like to point out that this is supposed to be the happiest day of the year!

But seriously, I do not know about you but for every bit of doom news I hear/read, I feel relieved. It is as if the whole world is starting to tip it's hat to the elephant in the room.

It is only when we reach the bottom of this cycle, that businesses will have the clean slate to become real wealth creators, as for the past 10 years it has all been based on money for old rope. We have had bad times before, we can do it again. What the Asian markets will learn is how to ride this economic cycle well and to do it regular. They may turn out to be one hit wonder markets. Here's hoping anyway.

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I've come to the inevitable conclusion that manufacturing in Britain, and thus our main method of wealth creation, is doomed.

Umm...and I thought it was the financial services sector that was the biggest income generator for Britain?

Thank goodness that's all in good shape... :blink:

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its time to re-evaluate what the purpose of life is.

In answer to the question:- "What is the purpose of physical life?"

Sai Baba answered "To learn not to do it again".

All you need to know is in that sentence

............ but retraining the sycophants may be necessary for rapid results

Just another thought:- Does system boredom ultimately lead to sycophanticide?

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Awww I hate it when the Woo gets up a head of steam on the old racial stuff.

He'a a bright bloke otherwise and has some interesting things to say. He has a bit of blind spot like these guys on race -

Sorry Injin but you're talking nonsense. I have no 'blind spot' on race. I firmly believe colour is irrelevent to everything. However, I haven't been brainwashed into believing that even the most innocuous remarks make sombody a racist (unlike much of the population).

Now just because I believe colour is an irrelevancy that doesn't mean I think it's good that our country is flooded with wage suppressors. I would hold the same views if the wage supressors flooding our country were anglo-saxon Americans.

Some people are so stupid they believe that the American IT work force being 1/3 Indian is a good thing. They no doubt have similar views on the UK. Good for Indians and good for the owners of business who are already rich. Bad for the local population who have to survive on ever decreasing wages and opportunities. These people typically hate their own country. We all know the type.

I don't expect you to agree BTW, given your views on the non-existence of countries.

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Sorry Injin but you're talking nonsense. I have no 'blind spot' on race. I firmly believe colour is irrelevent to everything. However, I haven't been brainwashed into believing that even the most innocuous remarks make sombody a racist (unlike much of the population).

If you think there are races, you are a racist. I agree about the innocuous remarks. I risk beheading from the apparently most mild mannered of folks when I give my views, as you can imagine.

Now just because I believe colour is an irrelevancy that doesn't mean I think it's good that our country is flooded with wage suppressors. I would hold the same views if the wage supressors flooding our country were anglo-saxon Americans.

No such thing as countries! You know that....:)

Some people are so stupid they believe that the American IT work force being 1/3 Indian is a good thing. They no doubt have similar views on the UK. Good for Indians and good for the owners of business who are already rich. Bad for the local population who have to survive on ever decreasing wages and opportunities. These people typically hate their own country. We all know the type.

Shrug. No one is owed a living. You are quite right that the entrenched rich are exploitative though.

I don't expect you to agree BTW, given your views on the non-existence of countries.

And races. :lol:

Fair enough.

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Was invited to a function at the British legion....as a guest.

At the end the conversation came about that there were no new, younger people comming forward to take charge of the board. The current ones are in their late 70s and would like to hand over responsibility to new blood. They would have liked to done that a few years ago. Its pretty sad because they are arranging the Christmas party for the members, where over 180 people will be attending.

Another sign of the times, was speaking to a collegue who runs the local girl guides - shes saddened that many adults are'nt interested in taking part in the activities anymore.

The rat race, Debt and houseprices have sucked all life out of this country! Bring on a recession and knock some sense into people!

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I have worked for a multi national for the last 14 years and in that time I have lived and worked all over the world out sourcing our factories and production from the UK and Western Europe to Russia, China and eastern europe. The costs of Oil will have an effect on on globalisation however once you factor in all the local tax breakes low wages and low land prices to build the factories on the UK will not get this work of manufacturing back any time soon.

I now spend over 1/3 of the year in Russia and I can tell you they are not just after our manufacturing work but also all our R&D, design and banking business as well. I find the work ethics and education of people in Eastern Europe and Russia a lot higher than in the UK and yes I am quite proud of all the work I have done to transfer business to these places and feel really proud when I see new members of staff I have hired in Russia getting on and raising there living standards. In these countried you are rewarded for hard work, in the Uk you are not your just rewarded for sitting on your back side.

I actually plan on bailing out of the UK in the next few years as we have now more or less moved all our manufacturing over seas and i will have a higher standard of living and much better work life balance than you get in the UK now.

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Another sign of the times, was speaking to a collegue who runs the local girl guides - shes saddened that many adults are'nt interested in taking part in the activities anymore.

One of my customers is a scout leader. I was talking to him the other day and he said it was almost impossible attracting new people to lead because they no longer want to take the risk of responsibility given the tendency for litigation these days, CRB checks, HSE, unreasonable parents etc.

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The destruction of the family unit, among other things, has long been an objective.

Fabian Socialism, Marxism, whatever you like to call it.

Fabian Socialism = New Labour = Sh*t tip Britain

Was that the same film with the line "One b*stard goes in and another b*stard comes out"?

I think it was Eli Wallach in the "The Good, The Bad & The Ugly".

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In the spirit of this thread I would recommend reading 'Willing Slaves' by Madeleine Bunting. It is a good book that strikes to the heart of what the overwork culture is doing to us both individually and collectively. Wrecking health, destroying social capital, and enriching the f**kers who throw a yoke over the common man with debt.

All I seem to do nowadays is work. Work work work - and it is never enough; my company just asks for more. My very modest professional success has been a thankless slog, and recently having a kid has made me realise what a crock it all is. A true con.

Working for the man? F.U.C.K the man.

tend your own garden

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One of my customers is a scout leader. I was talking to him the other day and he said it was almost impossible attracting new people to lead because they no longer want to take the risk of responsibility given the tendency for litigation these days, CRB checks, HSE, unreasonable parents etc.

Its very sad! No wonder adults lack basic skills!

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