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Its now June, we have the UK house prices for May, we have a whole rash of articles saying that Scotland will be more resiliant and quoting the Q1 figures for Scotland compared with the UK as a whole, but do we really have to wait till the end of August to see a regional breakdown?

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Check out myhouseprice.com, Market analysis section, I think they update monthly from the RoS figures

Shows prices rising in Edinburgh!!

Mean price:

April 2008: 227224

March 2008: 213564

Feb 2008: 222800

Jan 2008: 208252

Peak is July 2007 which is 244131 so we aint gonna get to that by July which will mean YoY falls in Edinburgh, however its amazing that it is Spring bouncing at all! Low transaction volumes skewing the figures??

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Reuters is spouting the 'Scotland is different' stuff today (quoting the ubiquitous Fionnuala). Interestingly, they appear to be quoting the Halifax figures, which no-one on the main forum seems to have been able to find. If myhouseprice.com are using RoS figures then they are subject to a time lag.

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Check out myhouseprice.com, Market analysis section, I think they update monthly from the RoS figures

Shows prices rising in Edinburgh!!

Mean price:

April 2008: 227224

March 2008: 213564

Feb 2008: 222800

Jan 2008: 208252

Peak is July 2007 which is 244131 so we aint gonna get to that by July which will mean YoY falls in Edinburgh, however its amazing that it is Spring bouncing at all! Low transaction volumes skewing the figures??

thanks roblpm, I checked the myhouseprice.com FAQs and they get their Scottish house prices from RoS, so there is a lag, and they say they update their figures every month, but no mention of when in the month so no idea when May's figures will be available. The way I see it in Edinburgh at the moment there is a stand off with buyers unwilling to drop their prices and potential buyers unwilling to commit at such a time. I'm thinking that once the May figures come out, if they show a significant drop then that may be the thing tht pushes sellers to start dropping prices

If however, they hold steady, then I think the stand off might continue for a while longer as long as there aren't alot of forced sales

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thanks roblpm, I checked the myhouseprice.com FAQs and they get their Scottish house prices from RoS, so there is a lag, and they say they update their figures every month, but no mention of when in the month so no idea when May's figures will be available. The way I see it in Edinburgh at the moment there is a stand off with buyers unwilling to drop their prices and potential buyers unwilling to commit at such a time. I'm thinking that once the May figures come out, if they show a significant drop then that may be the thing tht pushes sellers to start dropping prices

If however, they hold steady, then I think the stand off might continue for a while longer as long as there aren't alot of forced sales

If the stand off continues EdiLass the real estate agents/ solicitors will make no money. Mmmmm, the ironic thing is that the ESPC et all are trying to scare the Johnstone press readers into thinking that falls in Edinburgh will not happen in the hope that they will then start buying again. But many can't as they cannot get cheap credit anymore and have no money of their own, and many won't (me) because they know that desire to buy and ability to buy are two different things and they will not plough their hard earned cash into a well documented and researched asset bubble. Property is overvalued period. As the cashflow dries up for the ESPC crew (like now!), they will be forced to push vendors into reduced prices or they will have to shut up shop. So in effect they will push the market down for us, they simply have to to survive. Irony at its best.

It's happening in England and Wales right now and it is a beautiful thing really.

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If the stand off continues EdiLass the real estate agents/ solicitors will make no money. Mmmmm, the ironic thing is that the ESPC et all are trying to scare the Johnstone press readers into thinking that falls in Edinburgh will not happen in the hope that they will then start buying again. But many can't as they cannot get cheap credit anymore and have no money of their own, and many won't (me) because they know that desire to buy and ability to buy are two different things and they will not plough their hard earned cash into a well documented and researched asset bubble. Property is overvalued period. As the cashflow dries up for the ESPC crew (like now!), they will be forced to push vendors into reduced prices or they will have to shut up shop. So in effect they will push the market down for us, they simply have to to survive. Irony at its best.

It's happening in England and Wales right now and it is a beautiful thing really.

I agree all those fators will come in to play, but just because ESPC is pushing doesn't mean vendors will shift. There will be people who just say no, I'm not selling now or until I get what I thought I'd get. Another outcome would be that EAs go under, and solicitors that really are solicitors scale back on that side of things

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