kevino Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 If that's where I think it is, near the Hunter Memorial Hospital, that part of Wallsend has always been quite "gentrified". Hmm, yes I'd agree that the "Green" is the "Posh" part of Wallsend, the old houses are massive around there but I wouldn't pay a quarter mill to live in them or the new shoeboxes!! Having been born and bought up there I spent a long time getting out. I'd have to be paid to live there!!! If you go to see the houses there, try going to the "Forum" Shopping centre (or is it the "Segudunum" shopping centre??), which would be your local shops. Full of chav's and clampits, also chuck in the odd Kosovan trying to sell his vouchers so he can get pi$$ed, or pimping some young Kosovan girl (FACT:Was happening in Battle Hill which is why the council has had to pull down all of the flats near the coast road, the asylum seekers wrecked them). Wallsend is royally f&*^%d, especially with the closure of Swan Hunters. Nothing to justify 1/4 mill, even if you are "smarter than the average bear" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevino Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 Have to agree, whilst in Newcastle this morning could not help but notice that every other shop on the first floor of Eldon Garden is vacant/boarded up! What chance do developments such as City Quadrant and Trinity Gardens have of ever successfully filling their retail units? Commercial office space is the same, Newcastle is full of empty office complexes! Seacontainers the parent company of GNER are in so much trouble that they are yet to release their 2005 annual report and trading has been suspended on the NYSE, is it any wonder? I've always been appalled at the £1.1billion they had to pay to run the franchise, their days must be numbered! The Evening Chronicle Today, only 900 jobs! Where have all the jobs gone? Boom town? I think not more like DOOM AND GLOOM town! Have to agree. Was out with Mrs Kevino last Saturday night before I travelled back offshore and to be honest, was a real eye opener. Kids who must be on OTE of 12 K buying rounds of drinks on the plastic!!!!!! Presumably, in addition to the new clothes bought for the night out. Basically in sh1te jobs, living for the weekend when they can get blotto to drown out the debt they have and the poor prospects for the future.................... How much is a £3.50 bottle of alcopop going to cost on a credit card if you don't pay it off over a year??!! But some were pleasant eye candy all the same.................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Designer1234 Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 (edited) ...Full of chav's and clampits.... A bit off topic, so sorry. Excuse my ignorance, but what is a "clampit" - just another word for a Charva or Scally? What does the forum think is the main reason for the large numbers of Chavs and the effect it will have on the property market e.g. could it put off professionals from staying in or relocating to the area and so reduce the supply of affluent tenants, hence fueling a HPC? Alternatively, do they prop up the bottom end and thus all of the housing market by providing a growing pool of DSS tenants? Someone I know works for the Jobcentres and writes gov advisory policy documents - they have written something along the lines of stating the "live off benefit for life" culture is actually growing the so-called "Charva" class and not eliminating it by helping people back to work - at last someone is talking sense. We live in strange times with huge numbers of Eastern European migrants especially Poles to be seen in and around the area, especially Gateshead, working hard whilst our own "white trash" spend the day sittingin the park drinking cheap alcohol and checking car doors to see if they are locked. What is the future for these people? Discuss! Edited October 6, 2006 by rich1234 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 A bit off topic, so sorry. Excuse my ignorance, but what is a "clampit" - just another word for a Charva or Scally? What does the forum think is the main reason for the large numbers of Chavs and the effect it will have on the property market e.g. could it put off professionals from staying in or relocating to the area and so reduce the supply of affluent tenants, hence fueling a HPC? Alternatively, do they prop up the bottom end and thus all of the housing market by providing a growing pool of DSS tenants? Someone I know works for the Jobcentres and writes gov advisory policy documents - they have written something along the lines of stating the "live off benefit for life" culture is actually growing the so-called "Charva" class and not eliminating it by helping people back to work - at last someone is talking sense. We live in strange times with huge numbers of Eastern European migrants especially Poles to be seen in and around the area, especially Gateshead, working hard whilst our own "white trash" spend the day sittingin the park drinking cheap alcohol and checking car doors to see if they are locked. What is the future for these people? Discuss! I Would have to say that our society is well screwed the welfare system supports those in many cases those who can't be arsed to get of their backs and do anything other than produce babies and their babies produce more babies etc etc My own opion is that the welfare state needs major reform and the whole country has gone soft, if you end up in jail you get a Playstation and soemtimes even a free concert? I have a prison officer in the family so I am not making this up! Some of these people should learn what a hard life is really like, ******ing wasters :angry: :angry: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njwd Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 (edited) A bit off topic, so sorry. Excuse my ignorance, but what is a "clampit" - just another word for a Charva or Scally? I always thought it came from the Beverley Hillbillies TV program. They were called the Clampetts. Wikipedia Urban Dictionary Edited October 6, 2006 by njwd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevino Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 I always thought it came from the Beverley Hillbillies TV program. They were called the Clampetts. Wikipedia Urban Dictionary Correctamundo!!! (From "Pulp Fiction") Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quokka Posted October 7, 2006 Share Posted October 7, 2006 Weird you say that. I'm originially from Newcastle and moved to Sheffield a year ago. Couple of weeks ago I went home to see the folks. What has happened to Newcastle centre.. Boarded up shops etc etc. Lack of public transport . Hmmm.. where did the money go to? My visit was first for 5 years. May have been influenced by the exceptional weather, but the place looked good to me. LOts of money spent on riverside developement, parks, public facilities impressed. I'm not into shopping, but on a brief visit to city centre the place was very busy, lots of free entertainment. I may be biased, but still think its one of the best cities in the UK. Moneywise the N/E has always been struggling, but all seems good on the surface. Time will tell if debt will turn things downward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilrich Posted October 7, 2006 Author Share Posted October 7, 2006 (edited) Moneywise the N/E has always been struggling, but all seems good on the surface. I think you hit the nail on the head! Seems good on the surface, however dig a little deeper and the reality is very different, unfortunately with no light at the end of the tunnel things can only get worse! "One day this balloon, or bubble, will burst, and with it the illusion of prosperity." Daily Telegraph (15/09/2006) Edited October 7, 2006 by neilrich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smarter than the average bear Posted October 8, 2006 Share Posted October 8, 2006 Seems good on the surface, however dig a little deeper and the reality is very different, unfortunately with no light at the end of the tunnel things can only get worse! Cheer up, you'll live longer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilrich Posted October 8, 2006 Author Share Posted October 8, 2006 (edited) Cheer up, you'll live longer. Hey you're dead right for once, we're far better off being grumpy cash rich bears as opposed to being a worried debt laden bull! Edited October 8, 2006 by neilrich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smarter than the average bear Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 (edited) What? Me worry? Edited October 9, 2006 by Smarter than the average bear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undersupply Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 (edited) http://www.communities.gov.uk/pub/230/A1Mi...n_id1165230.xls Amazing how the North East is going up while it's largest city with highest volume of sales is "allegedly" going down What was it Merv said? house prices are real, reposession sale prices in Knightsbridge Court are a matter of opinion http://www.houseprices.uk.net/articles/odpm_regional/ Edited to include graph to show that the North East is mapping both England and the UK. None so blind.... Edited October 9, 2006 by undersupply Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilrich Posted October 11, 2006 Author Share Posted October 11, 2006 Report reckons Newcastle is doomed A new report saying Newcastle is unlikely to recover from the scars of its industrial past was today rubbished.Despite narrowly losing out on being named European Capital of Culture 2008, and boasting world-famous attractions, the report - published by Glasgow University - says the city is mired in sustained decay. The report said London, Manchester, Leeds and Birmingham were all on the up but that Newcastle, Liverpool and Glasgow were in decline. But Newcastle Central MP Jim Cousins said: "I think it's true that if you compare Leeds and Newcastle, Leeds were very smart at moving into financial services in a way that Newcastle never has. Michelle Crawford, 34, an assistant cafe manager from Westerhope, said: "I love Newcastle, I think it's a great city with lots of things to do and see and it has a unique atmosphere." Newcastle Evening Chronicle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Designer1234 Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 Report reckons Newcastle is doomed......But Newcastle Central MP Jim Cousins said: "I think it's true that if you compare Leeds and Newcastle, Leeds were very smart at moving into financial services in a way that Newcastle never has. Quite right. I think the crux will be what becomes of the city centre Scottish and Newcastle brewery site. If it goes the Science Park route then the city has a future (and tenants for the 2500 new quayside flats). Otherwise if the site becomes a super-casino (slightly posher bingo) then that will be the end. Newcastle will be a complete laughing stock, a blackpool of the north-east. City centre streets will be full of drunks at night and only beer trucks and vomit by day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abaxas Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 Quite right. I think the crux will be what becomes of the city centre Scottish and Newcastle brewery site. If it goes the Science Park route then the city has a future (and tenants for the 2500 new quayside flats). Otherwise if the site becomes a super-casino (slightly posher bingo) then that will be the end. Newcastle will be a complete laughing stock, a blackpool of the north-east. City centre streets will be full of drunks at night and only beer trucks and vomit by day. Being a geordie lad I'm offended by that comment. City centre streets ARE full of drunks at night and only beer trucks and vomit by day. Newcastle is the pissup capital of the world, not exactly the best claim to fame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpoonUnit Posted October 13, 2006 Share Posted October 13, 2006 http://www.communities.gov.uk/pub/230/A1Mi...n_id1165230.xls Amazing how the North East is going up while it's largest city with highest volume of sales is "allegedly" going down What was it Merv said? house prices are real, reposession sale prices in Knightsbridge Court are a matter of opinion http://www.houseprices.uk.net/articles/odpm_regional/ Edited to include graph to show that the North East is mapping both England and the UK. None so blind.... Depends who you believe, doesn't it? According to the Nationwide, "The North" dropped 0.5% in last quarter and "Tyne and Wear" is up only 1% year on year (effectively a drop in real terms). http://www.nationwide.co.uk/hpi/historical/Q3_North.pdf Myself, I take all the housing indices with a pinch of salt, and prefer to track the local stuff I am interested in. As well as stuff I'm not, like Knightsbridge Court, which may (or may not, only time will tell) act as a canary in the coalmine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilrich Posted October 15, 2006 Author Share Posted October 15, 2006 The Evening Chronicle Thursday edition had only 850 vacancies in the jobs section, the norm was once 1200-1500! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smarter than the average bear Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 (edited) The Evening Chronicle Thursday edition had only 850 vacancies in the jobs section, the norm was once 1200-1500! That may be so, but anecdotally I know these stats are bogus, take all these indices with a pinch of salt, must be vested interests at work, I see loads of people getting jobs (etc, continues for 800 posts...) Edited October 17, 2006 by Smarter than the average bear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flash harry Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 The Evening Chronicle Thursday edition had only 850 vacancies in the jobs section, the norm was once 1200-1500! There is also the rise of internet recruitment for quality jobs which needs to be taken into account. Most jobs in the chronicle are public sector and contact centre. FH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smarter than the average bear Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 I picked up a Chronicle and noted that the number of employment agencies operating in the North-East has absolutely boomed. I can remember when there was half a dozen in a sidebar on Thursdays, now there's a whole double-page spread. If the place really is the black hole of unemploment of Neilrich's fevered imagination, why on earth are so many apparently setting up shop here? And not just tuppence-ha'penny ones finding hourly rates for cleaners and brickies either, all the big international firms now have a presence here; something that was unthinkable back in the bad old days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilrich Posted October 20, 2006 Author Share Posted October 20, 2006 I picked up a Chronicle and noted that the number of employment agencies operating in the North-East has absolutely boomed. I can remember when there was half a dozen in a sidebar on Thursdays, now there's a whole double-page spread. I don't doubt this, something that has happen across the UK and not just the North East yet still the national level of unemployment is on the increase. What sort of job security do you have when employed via an agency? Enough security and a good enough wage to purchase a house? I think probably not. If the place really is the black hole of unemploment of Neilrich's fevered imagination I've never said that! I've only passed the observation that there does not appear to be as many vacancies in Thursday's Evening Chronicle when compared to earlier in the year. why on earth are so many apparently setting up shop here? And not just tuppence-ha'penny ones finding hourly rates for cleaners and brickies either, all the big international firms now have a presence here; something that was unthinkable back in the bad old days. Perhaps you would like to share with us your long list of 'big international firms'? Big international firms and I'm thinking Blue Chip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abaxas Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 I don't doubt this, something that has happen across the UK and not just the North East yet still the national level of unemployment is on the increase. What sort of job security do you have when employed via an agency? Enough security and a good enough wage to purchase a house? I think probably not. I've never said that! I've only passed the observation that there does not appear to be as many vacancies in Thursday's Evening Chronicle when compared to earlier in the year. Perhaps you would like to share with us your long list of 'big international firms'? Big international firms and I'm thinking Blue Chip. Just to add and something to remember... The whole of the NE economy is based on Nissan (Renault). Without that everywhere is shagged and the 70/80's wasteland returns. It's a shame that almost 1/2 million people's lives rest on one car plant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilrich Posted October 20, 2006 Author Share Posted October 20, 2006 (edited) the 70/80's wasteland returns. We already have the wasteland, they call it the Great North Park, let's just pray that Sage Software don't one day disapear! Edited October 20, 2006 by neilrich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smarter than the average bear Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 Perhaps you would like to share with us your long list of 'big international firms'? Big international firms and I'm thinking Blue Chip. Hays, Reed, Adecco, Kelly, Capita, BBT, etc, all either multinational recruiters or part of multinational groups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilrich Posted October 20, 2006 Author Share Posted October 20, 2006 (edited) Hays, Reed, Adecco, Kelly, Capita, BBT, etc, all either multinational recruiters or part of multinational groups. Appologies, I misread your original post, you were refering to big international recruitment agencies and I thought you were refering to big international employers! I've had a quick look at Hays website and did a search for Tyne and Wear £20k-40k pa, it lists 83 vacancies some of which date back to May/June and includes Accounts Assistant £13-15k, Mortgage Advisor, Recruitment Consultant......I say no more, thought you were talking careers and quality employment! Edited October 20, 2006 by neilrich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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