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I have just found out that my (Tory) MP is a member of the British Property Federation

I was NOT impressed.

British Property Federation - the voice of property

The commercial property industry is a significant part of the UK economy. It is six times larger than the agriculture sector, more than twice the size of the oil industry and larger than each of the banking, leisure, transport and communications sectors...

The private rented sector in the UK could have an extremely bright future, significantly increasing the housing stock and making many more homes available for those who are unable to buy their own. But this will only happen if the Government removes the barriers that currently make this Cinderella of the housing market less attractive to commercial companies.

This manifesto sets out what the British Property Federation believes the Government should do to improve letting opportunities in the future...

British Property Federation (Buy to Let Parasites)

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Agree. There was once a time when the Conservatives were for low tax and low governemnt regulation. Now there is basically no difference between them and 'new' Labour. Their biggest selling point sems to be that they are not Labour. Which is a vaild point but still.....................they will need more than this.

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The problem we have is that the current government are such total and utter dog shit that the opposition don't need to offer anything a great deal better to look relatively attractive. There used to be pretty clearly defined values between the various political parties, but these days they're all pretty much the same... punitive enviro-taxes, over-regulation, punitive enviro-taxes, over-regulation, punitive enviro-taxes, over-regulation, punitive enviro-taxes, over-regulation, punitive enviro-taxes, over-regulation, ad infinitum.

It's pretty much a case of "vote Conservative 'cause we'll only rub dog shit in your face six days a week"... as opposed to the seven days a week that Labour are doing it.

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Yes. This is why, in my eyes, they are equally as unelectable as Labour.

Sorry guys, there is a bigger picture than just plain old "house prices". The conservatives always have been the safe bet on the economy, and effectively gave a clown like Brown 10 years for free. Imagine what the conservatives could have done with that cash?Listening to Dave on R5 Live this morning he is on top form at the mo, some fat sounding geordie bird (not exactly Tory heartland) almost offered to have his babies "Because he sounds like a nice man".

Cameron will be the vehicle which gets the conservatives back to power, and over time, fix the horrendous mess that Labour have generated. Starting with the mass sacking of wholesale oxygen thief non-jobs in the Civil Service.

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I can NOT believe I took the time to visit him in person to discuss the issue of high house prices and the social problems they cause.

He replied by saying he was a member of this organisation - which does NOTHING for tenants and simply promotes the concept of buy to let - on a much larger scale, with even more tax breaks than they already enjoy.

I am penning him a response now! :angry:

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Hey, we have all got dirty little secrets. My sister is a mortgage advisor. That makes me, as a property bear, about as popular as a stiffy on the pope in my household.

Dont worry, the tories know what is going to happen. They are just glad they are not at the reigns this time when it happens.

And Whilst I love to slate BTL, the property bubble would have happened anyway. I see it like this, they are taking the hit for me and at the same time, providing me a roof over my head at a significant discount. Feel the love dude!

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Sorry guys, there is a bigger picture than just plain old "house prices". The conservatives always have been the safe bet on the economy...

Fair point.

However, if you look on your nearest MPs web page you will probably find they are trying to deal with record drug and alcohol problems in their constituency.

These problems are symptoms.

Low self-esteem and the high cost of living (i.e. housing costs) are the cause!

I am not saying I have any answers, just that most likely party to take over after the next election don’t either!

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Fair point.

However, if you look on your nearest MPs web page you will probably find they are trying to deal with record drug and alcohol problems in their constituency.

These problems are symptoms.

Low self-esteem and the high cost of living (i.e. housing costs) are the cause!

I am not saying I have any answers, just that most likely party to take over after the next election don’t either!

They have got to cut council tax somehow. Social workers cost a fortune I bet.

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Sorry guys, there is a bigger picture than just plain old "house prices". The conservatives always have been the safe bet on the economy, and effectively gave a clown like Brown 10 years for free. Imagine what the conservatives could have done with that cash?

Err, hello!

What about the Macmillan boom/bust,

the Heath boom/bust and the Thatcher/Lawson

boom bust.

Safe bet my **** (bottom) - neither party has had a clue

or will ever have a clue how to abstain from the electoral

free ride of a boom, and they ultimately lose power because

of the bust that inevitably follows.

ABB

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All threee main parties are in bed togeather playing good cop, bad cop with us and i will vote BNP as they are not in the game and are closer to the man in the street than all three of the main parties put togeather.

Cons will put taxes up and blame Nu-Labour for the next ten years and then the cycle will begin again.

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"Any alternative to the Conservatives will be a help to us all" was the mantra in 1997. Now look where we are! :(

The only real choice at the next general election is Tory or Labour. Do you really want five more years of Gordon Brown, Ed Balls, and co lording it over us and selling us down the river? I'll take my chances with the Tories, warts and all.

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Isn't Kirsty Allsopp special housing advisor to David Cameron?

Yes she is. I've looked at her wiki page and from it I gather she hasn't been to university. So I take it she hasn't got a degree in economics. She's obviously talented, having landed herself a job presenting that property porn programme. But how does she get the job of housing advisor to David Cameron? Being able to value a property and having some sales patter isn't enough to make policy decisions is it?

I mean when they ask her about the future direction of house prices and subtitle her as 'Kirsty Allsopp housing expert', she doesn't know anything more than a experienced Estate agent does she?

Anyone know how Kirsty knows there can't be a crash?

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The only real choice at the next general election is Tory or Labour. Do you really want five more years of Gordon Brown, Ed Balls, and co lording it over us and selling us down the river? [...]

Of course not. But it's like being asked to choose between a bucket of sewage, and a bucket of sewage with a 5p piece in it.

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And Whilst I love to slate BTL, the property bubble would have happened anyway. I see it like this, they are taking the hit for me and at the same time, providing me a roof over my head at a significant discount. Feel the love dude!

what utter b*llocks!!

BTL was the fuel that allowed the fire to burn so quickly, they spectacularly held up the massive pyramid scam of HPI, FTB are different altogether than BTL, one has at least some sense of the value of money while the other thinks it magically appears from nowhere.

Anyone who has ever been involved in BTL should be flogged in public for 5p a lash!!!

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Yes she is. I've looked at her wiki page and from it I gather she hasn't been to university. So I take it she hasn't got a degree in economics. She's obviously talented, having landed herself a job presenting that property porn programme. But how does she get the job of housing advisor to David Cameron? Being able to value a property and having some sales patter isn't enough to make policy decisions is it?

I mean when they ask her about the future direction of house prices and subtitle her as 'Kirsty Allsopp housing expert', she doesn't know anything more than a experienced Estate agent does she?

Anyone know how Kirsty knows there can't be a crash?

Makes you wonder which one of the tories is banging her . . . .

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Wah ha ha this straight from Kirsty's wiki page

Allsopp famously went on record on Question Time stating that London would never experience falls as it was a desirable place to live. The next day it was reported that the average London home had lost 6% of its value (£23,000) in the previous month.

Own up, who was it?

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