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This is an interesting discussion indeed, just showing how corruption rules. I did as laurejon suggests, and did a quick yahoo search. This showed lots of such stories..

Notably, for the tory party...

BBC NEWS | England | Kent | Sex crime councillor is expelled

A Tory councillor is being urged to resign for failing to disclose convictions relating to sexual crimes. ... E-mail this to a friend. Printable version. Sex crime councillor is expelled. A Tory town councillor in Michael Howard's Kent constituency has been expelled from the party for failing ...news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/kent/3899161.stm -

icCoventry - Ex-councillor's jail term cut

... Disgraced former Coventry Tory councillor Peter Stidworthy has had his jail sentence for sex offences cut. ... of boys as young as 12 involved in sex acts with men. ...

Point 1:

Most companies, (or for example, to gain employment in a school) insist on disclosing your criminal record. One should be barred from holding a position of trust as a councillor, or a politican, if you have a criminal record.

Point 2:

There is an actual offence in the UK of "Misconduct in a Public Office" which carries the sentence of life imprisonment. This applies to people working for the goverment, and councillors etc etc. So, councillors whom abuse their position by fraud and the like should be convicted for the above as well. A life sentence should be there as a proper detterent to stop corruption. Unfortunately, it seems that these people have control of the courts as well.

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cant say i could vote tory though. they gave my generation a right wing beating in the 80s

In what way did the tories give you a beating?.

I suffered during that period, but its something that had to be done.

Today we are complaining yet again about boom to bust, yet this could have been adverted had Bliar raised interest rates.

Dont forget in the 80's it was considered risque to eat an after eight mint at seven thirty.

Lets dig back and find these terrible Tory Scandals we hear the Labour Party talk so much about.

I will have a hunt arround because to be perfectly honest the scandals in those days were pretty tame and hardly worthy of writing off the principles of democracy which is what we will be doing if we support New Labour.

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Trouble is the Libs stand for something one day, and not another.

They have no clear policy, I dont know what they are about.

I see the type of people they attract, when I glimpse the party conference headlines on news at ten.

They all look rather odd to say the least.

I know that they are of the belief that criminals should be let out, that the public are the criminals and the criminals are the victims of societies injustice.

I also know that they all wear handknit jumpers and wear national health glasses with plasters over one side.

On one point I do applaud them, and that is their stance on Iraq.

They have not wavered one single iota, they declared it illegal and have stuck to their guns. For that I applaud them wholeheartedly and if I was an entirely decent person on that single point I should support them. But I am afraid that their ideals would soon lay waste to the population and society as a whole.

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the tory scandals were at least mainly with consenting parties, i have to admit that.

and i agree with shishkibab. why are they not disclosing this and why are they not getting put into prison for public service crimes.?

the above labour convictions make the bnp look like boy scouts.

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For every Tory with a chequered sexual/personal past there has been a Nu Labour one to boot. I can't remember the name of that Welsh Labour MP caught cruising for **** around hampstead heath. They are people in power above all they have the same faults as the rest of us. Not excusing it but it is a fact of life, polititans/leaders have always been caught with their pants down.

Sitting around bitching about the sexual activities between parties is the sort of thing I'd expect to hear at a WI meet. As for the suggestion of spoiling ballot papers as an answer to countrys issues it's all rather pathetic and has left me feeling that perhapes this board doesn't have the intelligent debate I thought it may of had.

Lets face it Labour will get in again for no better reason than they have a better spin connection with the public than conservative. Lib Dems will be left on the sidelines for the irrelevence they are. Brown will replace Tony Blair during the course of the next parliment and the true nemesis that is waiting for the country following Prudence Browns 8 year mis-management of the books will not be apparent to the likes of Joe public until 2008.

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Now who should I vote for

Labour Councillor (Newton Aycliffe) Martin Locklyn - Convicted and jailed for 15 years for sexually abusing 3 14-year-old boys.

.  Labour Councillor (North Lincolnshire) David Spooner - Convicted and jailed for 1 year for masturbating in front of 2 young boys.

.  Labour Mayor (Westhoughton/Lancashire) Nicholas Green - Convicted and jailed for 10 years for 3 rapes and 13 counts of indecent assault against little girls between the age of 6 and 10. He raped one woman on her wedding day.

.  Labour Mayor (Todmordon) John Winstanley - Convicted and jailed for rape and threats to kill. After raping and threatening to kill his terrified victim, Winstanley then ordered the woman to go on all fours before urinating on her.

.  Prominent Labour Party activist Mark Tann (who has met Tony & Cherie at Party functions) recently got a 15-year sentence for raping a 4-year old girl on 2 separate occasions.

.  Labour's current Parliamentary Candidate (Reading East) Tony Page - Has 2 Convictions for Acts of Gross Indecency` in public toilets.

.  Labour Mayor (Burnley) Mark Swainston - Convicted of sex offences in public toilet.

.  Entire Labour Party conspired to conceal the activities of Labour Party activist and serial child-molester Mark Trotter, who died from AIDS before he could be convicted.

.  Labour Councillor (North Yorkshire) Raymond Coats - Court appearance for indecently assaulting a woman.

.  Labour MP (Rhonda Valley) Chris Bryant poses in his pants on the Internet to advertise himself for casual gay sex encounters. Describes himself as "Horny as buggery" and says, "I'd love a good long ******".

.  Labour Councillor (Manchester), George Harding - Charged with indecent assault on a girl of 12.

.  Labour MP Ron Davies was mugged by a Rasta on Clapham Common while cruising for gay sex. He was photographed again by the media recently, engaged in some `man-on-man` action in a field off a motorway. "I was only looking for badgers" he said.

.  Labour Councillor (Durham), Derrick Payne - Arrested by Police following a sex attack.

.  Labour MP, Joe Ashton - Caught up in a Police raid while frequenting a brothel. Tried to lie his way out of the scandal.

.  Labour Councillor (Shropshire), Derek Woodvine - Arrested by Police in anti-porn operation.

.  Labour Councillor (Basildon), Tony Wright - Forced to resign after being caught using his council computer to download porn.

.  Labour MP (Sheffield), Clive Betts - Suspended from Parliament for 7 days after being caught forging immigration papers to extend the stay of his Brazilian rent-boy gay lover.

.  According to media reports, the names of 2 former Labour Cabinet Ministers said to be `Household names` appear on the `Operation Ore ` list of subscribers to hard-core child pornography. The same FBI investigation, which led to the arrest of rock star Pete Townshend. So who are they Mr Blair?


.  Labour Councillor (Kirkby, Merseyside) Charlie Preston - Convicted and jailed for 5 years in 1982 for assault and burglary. Preston broke into the home of a 64 year old man, and beat him up in his bed as he slept before robbing the house. The judge described the case as "As bad a matter of burglary as I can remember" Preston also holds the position on the Council of... `Deputy Cabinet Member for Youth, Citizenship, and Community Safety`.

.  Labour Councillor ( Wales ) Denis Jones - Convicted and jailed for unlawful wounding after attacking a neighbour with a sledgehammer.

.  Labour Councillor ( Wales ) Ken Brookman - Bit off a mans ear in a dispute over a seat on a train!

.  Labour Councillor and former Mayor (Stockton), Keith Dobinson - Investigated by Police for alleged assault on an OAP, which left the old man of 79, hospitalised.

.  Labour MP, Tommy Graham - Expelled from Party for his part in driving a person to suicide.

.  Labour Councillors (Ilfracombe), Brian Cotton and Tony Cooper - Investigated by Police following serious allegations of Harassment.


.  Labour Councillor (Sandwell) Mohamed Niwaz convicted of illegally obtaining £20,000 in Housing Grants.

.  Labour Councillors in Doncaster - 23 Convicted and 2 jailed for massive fraud, corruption and theft of public funds. Investigation also uncovered massive Labour Party corruption in neighbouring Rotherham .

.  Labour Party Councillor ( Blackburn ), Mohammed Hussein - arrested together with 6 Labour activists on suspicion of Election rigging.

.  Labour MP Mohammed Sawar ( Britain 's first Asian MP - Glasgow) was the subject of a major News of the World investigation a few years ago into bribery and corruption. Despite this, the massive Asian population in his constituency keeps him safely in his seat.

.  Labour MP (Leicester) and former Cabinet Minister, Keith Vaz - Investigated for fraud and corruption before quietly leaving his Europe Minister post with `health problems`. According to his former Secretary, Vaz does absolutely nothing in his constituency other than help local Pakistanis with their Immigration cases (which also helps to explain the `whites a minority` status of Leicester and the safe Labour seat of Mr Vaz)

.  Labour Party Euro MP, David Martin is currently being investigated for an alleged expenses fraud involving `hundreds of thousands of pounds`.

.  Labour Councillor (Glamorgan), Shawn Stringer - Forced to resign following Police investigation into financial corruption.


.  Tony Blair recently appointed his close friend/crony and colleague of his wife - Ken Macdonald as the new Director of Public Prosecutions, despite the fact he has a drugs conviction.

.  William Straw - Son of Labour Foreign Secretary, and former Home Secretary - Jack Straw, was cautioned by Police for drug dealing, amid a frantic Government attempt to cover up the matter and gag the media as to his identity. Jack Straw also has a brother who was convicted of a sex attack on a schoolgirl. Lovely family!

.  Homosexual mass murderer; Dennis Nielsen, who strangled and dismembered 16 young men in the 1980`s, was also a highly active member of Labour fringe groups such as the Anti-Nazi League, and the SWP. That's when he wasn't busy boiling peoples heads in a pot, or masturbating over the corpses of his victims.

Liberal Democrat Criminals 


.  Lib-Dem Council candidate (Tower Hamlets), Justin Sillman - Convicted and jailed for 2 years for sexual abuse of young boys.

.  Lib-Dem Councillor and Mayoral Candidate ( Sheffield ), Francis Butler- Prosecuted for indecent assault of a young boy.

.  Lib-Dem Councillor ( Stockport ) Neil Derbyshire - Sexually assaulted a 16-year old boy in a public toilet. He was caught with a plastic bag containing lubricant, plastic surgical gloves, a condom, and underpants.

.  Lib-Dem Councillor ( Preston ), Bill Chadwick - Charged with: Making an indecent photograph of a child, Incitement to rape, Incitement to murder, Incitement to kidnap, and Incitement to torture. Chadwick's gay lover - Alan Valentine, is also a Lib-Dem councillor.


.  Lib-Dem councillor (North Norfolk), Catherine Wilkins - Also a nurse until she was struck off the nursing register after being found guilty of mistreating patients and abusive behaviour.

.  Lib-Dem Parliamentary candidate ( Burnley ), Paul Wright - Charged with drunken assault on his `lodger`. Wright sobbed like a baby during the court case, and the case is to be re-listed and heard again after the jury failed to reach a verdict.

.  Lib-Dem Councillor ( Sheffield ) Trevor Morgan - Convicted and jailed for 9 months for unlawful wounding/dangerous driving. After attacking an elderly woman's Golden retriever dog by throwing pepper in its face, he then seriously injured the dog's owner - 57-year old Barbara Johnson, with his car as she tried to stop him escaping.


.  Lib-Dem Councillor (Peterborough), Michael Jackson - Prosecuted for 21 counts of Theft and False Accounting.

.  3 Lib-Dem Councillors convicted and jailed for Election Fraud in Hackney in 2001

.  12 Lib-Dem officials convicted of Election Fraud in Oldham in 2001.

.  Julie Roberts - Convicted of 9 counts of benefit fraud in 2003. 2 weeks after the court case, she was elected as a Lib-Dem councillor in Leicester !

.  Lib-Dem councillor (Portsmouth), Ray Race - Convicted and jailed for 4 months for election rigging, along with Lib-Dem colleague Michael Hayward. Race was arrested again in July 2003 for threatening a witness who helped to convict him.

.  Lib-Dem councillor (Lambeth), Gabriel Fernandez - Forced to resign after being investigated for benefit fraud.



Do not forget the tories - all politicians are the same they are scum.

We need a hung parliament - hang the lot!!!!!!

Conservative Party Criminals

All political parties have skeletons in the cupboard. Here is a list of what the Conservatives don’t want the public to find out. Can you really trust these people ??

Sex Crimes Against Minors

· Tory Party General election candidate, Michael Powell - Convicted and jailed for 3 years for downloading hardcore child porn.

· Tory Party Councillor (Wickbar/Bristol) Roger Talboys - Convicted and jailed for 6 years for multiple sex attacks on children.

· Tory Party Vice-Chairman of Welsh Conservatives, Andrew Baker - Received a banning order for stalking women.

· Tory Party MP (Billericay) Harvey Proctor - Stood trial for sex offences of a sado-masochistic nature against teenage boys, and was forced to resign.

· Tory Party Councillor (Stratford-upon-Avon) Christopher Pilkington - Convicted of downloading hardcore child porn on his PC. Placed on sex offenders register and forced to resign.

· Tory Party councillor (Coventry), Peter Stidworthy - Charged with indecent assault of a 15-year old boy.

· Tory Party Mayor (North Tyneside), Chris Morgan - Forced to resign after being arrested twice in 2 weeks, for indecent assault on a 15-year old girl, and for suspicion of downloading child porn.

· Tory Party MEP, Tom Spencer - Caught smuggling drugs and porn through customs.

· Tory Party councillor and former Mayor (Wrexham), Michael Morris - Convicted and put on probation for 2 years, for the indecent assault of another man, which was captured on CCTV.

· Tory Party Liaison Manager on the London Assembly, Douglas Campbell, who's job includes running the Tory GLA website - Arrested for allegedly downloading child porn. He is currently suspended while the Police investigation continues.


· Tory Party MP (Henley), Boris Johnson - Caught on tape plotting to have a man beaten up by a hired thug. The man was a journalist who had written an unsympathetic piece about Johnson's close friend - Convicted fraudster, Darius Guppy.

· Tory Party Councillor (Folkestone - in Leader, Michael Howard's constituency), Robert Richdale - 41 year history of crime, involving 30 convictions and 5 prison sentences. Richdales enormous criminal record, which covers 10 pages of A4 paper, includes convictions for assault, theft, causing death by dangerous driving, forgery, drugs offences, possession of an offensive weapon, and sex attacks against underage schoolgirls. The Tory Party election campaign literature described Richdale as "a family man" who had a "compassionate personality"


· Tory Party councillor (Dudley), Abdul Quadus, who was also chairman of the Dudley Police Committee and a Tory Party spokesman on crime - Convicted and jailed for 6 months for passport fraud and assisting illegal immigration from his native country - Pakistan.

· Former Tory Party Cabinet Minister, Jonathan Aitkin - Convicted and jailed for Perjury and Conspiracy to Pervert the Course of Justice.

· Former Tory Leader of Westminster Council, Dame Shirley Porter - Fled to Israel to evade justice after indulging in fraud, corruption and gerrymandering on a massive scale, and stealing millions of pounds from local taxpayers.

· Tory Party Councillor (Margate), Colin Kiddel - Forced to resign after Police investigation into his alleged theft and embezzlement of funds from the local `Dreamland` Amusement Park.

· Former Tory Party Chairman and London Mayoral Candidate, Jeffrey Archer - Convicted and jailed for Perjury and Conspiracy to Pervert the Course of Justice.

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I agree but we have only a few weeks left to ensure that this country has a future.

Get the Tories in now, and get some new blood in during their term.

I think we have all outgrown the parties we see today.

Years ago it was easy, if you hand dirty hands you voted Labour, and if you didnt you Voted Tory, if you were unsure if you had either dirty or clean hands then you voted Tory.

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I agree but we have only a few weeks left to ensure that this country has a future.

Get the Tories in now, and get some new blood in during their term.

I think we have all outgrown the parties we see today.

Years ago it was easy, if you hand dirty hands you voted Labour, and if you didnt you Voted Tory, if you were unsure if you had either dirty or clean hands then you voted Liberal

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I agree but we have only a few weeks left to ensure that this country has a future.

Get the Tories in now, and get some new blood in during their term.

Laurejon there is little I find in common with on this forum regards the direction of house prices, however for once I actualy find myself agreeing with you.

However nasty they may appear, however noxious may be their personality/look/breath. Their economical policies are actualy founded on good sense........for the country at least.

Prudence Brown has cooked up an witches potion for this country and the final brew is to be distributed to the populace during his third term. We've had the Hubris....Nemesis to follow.

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Laurejon there is little I find in common with on this forum regards the direction of house prices

That is interesting.

I am of the opinion that it will take high interest rates to kill the market off to a position whereby it crashes. I also think that we are not there yet, but in three years will certainly be in a crash as that is when our rates will be very high, 10% I think for base, 12% for Mortgages.

Were do you see houseprices going, and how soon?.

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