Guest vicmac64 Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 Lets claim our country back... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobby9983 Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 Lets claim our country back... Why? It's crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DotBomb Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 Im with you. We require direct action, a bit like our french counterparts. We have huge following on this site. We just need to get concus and mobilise in a certain direction. Perhaps get other online communties and pressure groups involved too. What are we after? 1. Better democracy? I dont think we have a full democracy here, but im no expert. Would PR help? 2. Transparency in government. 3. Removal of special interests such as unions and public sector with thier cushy numbers and final salary pension? Im thinking if we could organise a 1 day strike, where the entire private sector downs tools. What do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Melchett Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 As a country, we've been there done that at least twice. All to no avail. Much like 'However you vote, the govt always gets in', with revolutions its similar, but the ruling classes always get the power and money. Read Animal Farm.. Bobby, LOL at your remark: Priceless! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bardon Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 Im with you. We require direct action, a bit like our french counterparts. We have huge following on this site. We just need to get concus and mobilise in a certain direction. Perhaps get other online communties and pressure groups involved too.What are we after? 1. Better democracy? I dont think we have a full democracy here, but im no expert. Would PR help? 2. Transparency in government. 3. Removal of special interests such as unions and public sector with thier cushy numbers and final salary pension? Im thinking if we could organise a 1 day strike, where the entire private sector downs tools. What do you think? Most of the posters here just want affordable housing then they will be right, it aint a revolution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piece of paper Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 Just keep your hands (and loot) in your pockets. HMG and the financial establishment has shouted that they will reward caution whilst they have encouraged debt. They really want you to spend and borrow. Be revolutionary - don't spend a penny more than you need to. If enough people do this (and many won't have an option soon), the system will come crashing down of its own accord. p-o-p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
domo Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 We better learn to spell it first though, or we just look stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sofa Spud Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 Step 1: Housebuyers' strike! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 AUX ARMES CITOYENS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sofa Spud Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 Lets claim our country back... Does that include the big bit of Ireland we gave away in 1922? Re spending strike - maybe now we should be boycotting everything made in China (over the Tibet issue). Since so much stuff is made in China these days that would have a big effect on our economy too. PS I wonder if MI5 is monitoring this site yet LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest muttley Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 AUX ARMES CITOYENS!!! What's that in Polish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheer Heart Attack Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 Unfortunately, we're in the Brave New World so we can't. In a nutshell, Aldous Huxley, in the above-mentioned book, essentially predicted that the people would become infantilised by a statist government policed by a bunch of effective managers. The people, as long as they were made to feel prosperous, would be distracted by mindless entertainment and drivel. Instead of a government promoting positive freedoms and automony, the world would become a petty "police state" filled with bans and restrictions for the universal good. The last chance of a revolution died when the Iraq War protest did not divert the Govt from its tracks. The people know they have lost and would rather watch EastEnders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@contradevian Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 Might be easier to pack off our bankers and nom doms into a ship and let them wreck someone elses economy. How about organising "not spending any money" days. I tried that yesterday but it didn't work. I bought a latte and a Times! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sofa Spud Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 The last chance of a revolution died when the Iraq War protest did not divert the Govt from its tracks. The people know they have lost and would rather watch EastEnders. Not so sure. If times get harder more people will feel angry. People used to say the USSR was indestructable and communism was a growing threat - but look what happened to it. In the 1970s, the USSR was, arguably, the world's most powerful country. I remember also how the world looked on in disbelief when the Shah of Iran was deposed and replaced by a very short-lived democratic socialist government that was, in turn, swept away by a barbaric mediaeval revoloution led by an evil old cleric who'd been exiled to Paris for 20 years. If that could happen, anything can. Here in UK the poll tax riot came from almost nowhere and seriously wobbled the Thatcher government. Not forgetting the years of turmoil and murder in Northern Ireland that began with a few women banging dustbin lids in 1969. People are rarely as safe as they think they are - the Chinese authorities are discovering this about their nation as I type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bardon Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 I remember also how the world looked on in disbelief when the Shah of Iran was deposed and replaced by a very short-lived democratic socialist government that was, in turn, swept away by a barbaric mediaeval revoloution led by an evil old cleric who'd been exiled to Paris for 20 years. If that could happen, anything can. Especially since the Shah was installed following a British backed coup to keep the oil from being nationalised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sofa Spud Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 Especially since the Shah was installed following a British backed coup to keep the oil from being nationalised. He was no saint, and it was when his troops opened fire on student demontrators that his days were up. But before that the world assumed that Iran was a peaceful, fairly tolerant place. I knew an Iranian in the 1970s and that's the impression he gave me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmarks Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 "Relovution Required In Uk, Lets wake up fellow sheeple" Can we watch Eastenders first?* *Sorry old Spitting Image joke, couldn't resist. By the way if your serious about relovution - or even revolution - watch Adam Curtis's 'The Century of the Self' or 'The Trap' and you'll realise how well the system is sown up. Bill Still's video 'Money Masters' will cement your understanding for you. All of these are readily available on Google Video. Yours, Agent Smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbee Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 The answer is northern rock. As a nationalised bank it I believe is now owned by the people. Share holders took the profits and now will take the hit ( minimal Compensation ) the BOE should be told to whistle for the money its owed and offered £1 per month as a good gesture, although its our money anyway so maybe zip. We the people now own the bank, it offers good rates, value to money mortgages and all profit goes back into the public purse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bardon Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 He was no saint, and it was when his troops opened fire on student demontrators that his days were up. But before that the world assumed that Iran was a peaceful, fairly tolerant place. I knew an Iranian in the 1970s and that's the impression he gave me. Just pointing out that he was installed by a British backed coup because the other guy was going to nationalise oil, he was a puppet to the west they hadn't dreamed up WMD in those days. That is the suprising bit why they let him fall. Same as the bloke thats runnning Afghanistan he is a good ole boy his contender wasn't a puppet thats why he was assasinated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oracle Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 Unfortunately, we're in the Brave New World so we can't. In a nutshell, Aldous Huxley, in the above-mentioned book, essentially predicted that the people would become infantilised by a statist government policed by a bunch of effective managers. The people, as long as they were made to feel prosperous, would be distracted by mindless entertainment and drivel. Instead of a government promoting positive freedoms and automony, the world would become a petty "police state" filled with bans and restrictions for the universal good. Well I'm glad to say that the plan has not been 100% effective.There are still a few of us who have managed to keep our brains in the face of this psychological onslaught.No doubt we are ssen as subversive and "not with the programme" what we have to be very mindful of now,is phase 2 of the psy-ops WHEN the downswing hits. essentially the sheeple will get angry,start rioting and cause criminality....and the THE STATE kicks in with the solution,ie give up your freedom and nanny will protect you. The nanny-state is like the drug addict....and the LAST thing you give junkies/alchies and the like is MORE drugs.A dose of cold turkey and personal responsibility is in order.I know its bitter medicine but it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mattsta1964 Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 Unfortunately, we're in the Brave New World so we can't.In a nutshell, Aldous Huxley, in the above-mentioned book, essentially predicted that the people would become infantilised by a statist government policed by a bunch of effective managers. The people, as long as they were made to feel prosperous, would be distracted by mindless entertainment and drivel. Instead of a government promoting positive freedoms and automony, the world would become a petty "police state" filled with bans and restrictions for the universal good. The last chance of a revolution died when the Iraq War protest did not divert the Govt from its tracks. The people know they have lost and would rather watch EastEnders. I've been thinking about this for quite a while, what it would actually take for people to get off their backsides and protest. My conclusion is, it just isn't going to happen no matter how bad things get. The globalists have been waging psychological and actual warfare against the people for decades. There has been some very obvious legislation such as the ban on handguns designed to assure there is no uprising. But much of the way the world is run is less obvious and very insidious. They feed our brains with junk but they also feed our stomachs with junk. They are literally poisoning the people to death with tainted food and fluridation of water supply is still being used in many parts of the world under the pretence that it prevents tooth decay when in fact it is a known pathogen. It's no surprise that so many people are overweight and lethargic when you see what they eat and drink. The smoking ban is an interesting one because governments NEED smokers. They are very profitable for the government and yet they have brought in laws to deprive smokers of their freedom to smoke in enclosed spaces. Notice how they do not punish the tobacco companies. The burden for smoking must fall on the smoker, not the people who run the tobacco companies. I think a revolution is now impossible. The state is just too strong. But the irony is, IF people did decide to take action EN MASSE, the system could be brought down very easlily. The powers that be know this and do evrything in their power to prevent it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mattsta1964 Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 I've been thinking about this for quite a while, what it would actually take for people to get off their backsides and protest.My conclusion is, it just isn't going to happen no matter how bad things get. The globalists have been waging psychological and actual warfare against the people for decades. There has been some very obvious legislation such as the ban on handguns designed to assure there is no uprising. But much of the way the world is run is less obvious and very insidious. They feed our brains with junk but they also feed our stomachs with junk. They are literally poisoning the people to death with tainted food and fluridation of water supply is still being used in many parts of the world under the pretence that it prevents tooth decay when in fact it is a known pathogen. It's no surprise that so many people are overweight and lethargic when you see what they eat and drink. The smoking ban is an interesting one because governments NEED smokers. They are very profitable for the government and yet they have brought in laws to deprive smokers of their freedom to smoke in enclosed spaces. Notice how they do not punish the tobacco companies. The burden for smoking must fall on the smoker, not the people who run the tobacco companies. I think a revolution is now impossible. The state is just too strong. But the irony is, IF people did decide to take action EN MASSE, the system could be brought down very easlily. The powers that be know this and do evrything in their power to prevent it. And I would add that what is happening in the world right now is evil beyond comprehension. We are living in very dangerous times. Freedom and liberty have never been under threat in such an all encompassing and global manner. The true motives of shift towards globalization and one world government are very chilling indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmarks Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 I'm not sure the poll in another thread as to who is to blame will be sufficiently conclusive for concerted action to be agreed upon.I blame Gordon...this means it's in our hands and action can be taken...and it is. My philosophy is : if your trying to slay a serpent cut off its head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sofa Spud Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 The west let the Shah of Iran fall because troops had opened fire on a student demonstration and the likely replacement was a moderate socialist government lead by, if I remember, a Dr. Baktiar. But he only lasted a few weeks before the Ayatollah Khomeni was swept to power on a tide of madness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mattsta1964 Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 My philosophy is : if your trying to slay a serpent cut off its head. If you're suggesting we cut off Gordon Brown's head, why bother. He doesn't run the country. He just does as he is told by the puppetmasters. It is they that must be rooted out and decapitated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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