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Brown boasted of his "Golden rule" where public borrowing would always be under 40% of Britain's whole economy, or GDP. On paper his borrowing is 37.5% - £542 Billion against a GDP of £1,330 billion in 2007.

But he has hidden £800 billion of PFI borrowing, £700 billion of pension debt, and £100 billion Northen Rock costs, by simply not adding them in. Labour's true borrowing is nearer £2,142 bn, or 160% of GDP. Gordon Brown and Alistair Darling are lying, and the markets now know it.

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Brown boasted of his "Golden rule" where public borrowing would always be under 40% of Britain's whole economy, or GDP. On paper his borrowing is 37.5% - £542 Billion against a GDP of £1,330 billion in 2007.

But he has hidden £800 billion of PFI borrowing, £700 billion of pension debt, and £100 billion Northen Rock costs, by simply not adding them in. Labour's true borrowing is nearer £2,142 bn, or 160% of GDP. Gordon Brown and Alistair Darling are lying, and the markets now know it.

The late, lamented Paul Foot was banging on about the true cost of PFI for years. This nonsense was started under John Major's government and refined under Gordon Brown.

If I pretend that what I borrow on my credit cards is not a debt, and Visa send me a 'monthly statement' and not an invoice - can I exclude it from my debts? Of course not, and the same applies to PFI.

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Gordon Clown's list of achievements:-

* Inflating enormous debt bubble

* Destroying pension schemes

* Massive PFI off-balance-sheet debts

* Massively increasing tax burden through fiscal drag

* Selling Gold reserves just before Gold tripled in value

* Creating the biggest trade defecit in 10 years

* Pricing hundreds of thousands of people out of owning their own home

* Nose picking

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Gordon Clown's list of achievements:-

* Inflating enormous debt bubble

* Destroying pension schemes

* Massive PFI off-balance-sheet debts

* Massively increasing tax burden through fiscal drag

* Selling Gold reserves just before Gold tripled in value

* Creating the biggest trade defecit in 10 years

* Pricing hundreds of thousands of people out of owning their own home

* Nose picking

So he's achieved nothing?

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How would have thought it, a labour government that bankrupts the country and wrecks the economy :lol:

Like the drunk at a party - civilised for the first hour, even a little shy.

In the second hour a little louder, popular, life and soul of the party.

In the third hour, emptying the fridge of any forgotten beer, working through the spirit cabinet, an embarrassment to those who invited him or were chatting with him earlier. All desperate for him to leave as there is only one bottle of wine left which they dare not open with him there.

Labour, it is time to call a taxi and f*ck off home. We spent ten years cleaning up the mess you left last time.

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Gordon Brown is a liar, indeed his party is built on lies.

Here is the budget for 2002 and NHS Spending, of which he raised our taxes to pay for, note the spending figure in 2007.

We were happy to pay with our taxes for a good NHS, in reality in 2007-2008 he spent only 70bn, so where did the other billions go to, and why are we paying so much tax yet hospitals are closing ?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/1935730.stm

Spending on the NHS in England will top £100 billion in five years time, Chancellor Gordon Brown has announced.

Mr Brown has accepted the recommendations of the Wanless Report into the future needs of the health service.

NHS Spending

2002-03: £65.4bn

2003-04: £72.1bn

2004-05: £79.3bn

2005-06: £87.2bn

2006-07: £95.9bn

2007-08: £105.6bn

In his Budget speech, the Chancellor said spending would increase by an average of 7.4% in real terms for each of the next five years - in part funded by a 1% increase in national insurance contributions.

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The NHS budget grew by £5.4bn to £75bn in 2006-07

Edited by laurejon

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Like the drunk at a party - civilised for the first hour, even a little shy.

In the second hour a little louder, popular, life and soul of the party.

In the third hour, emptying the fridge of any forgotten beer, working through the spirit cabinet, an embarrassment to those who invited him or were chatting with him earlier. All desperate for him to leave as there is only one bottle of wine left which they dare not open with him there.

Labour, it is time to call a taxi and f*ck off home. We spent ten years cleaning up the mess you left last time.

Exactly and they do it every time. next lot have to sort it out and us Muppets pay the cost

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Like the drunk at a party - civilised for the first hour, even a little shy.

In the second hour a little louder, popular, life and soul of the party.

In the third hour, emptying the fridge of any forgotten beer, working through the spirit cabinet, an embarrassment to those who invited him or were chatting with him earlier. All desperate for him to leave as there is only one bottle of wine left which they dare not open with him there.

Labour, it is time to call a taxi and f*ck off home. We spent ten years cleaning up the mess you left last time.

:D Superb!!

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Our top 50 achievements since being elected in 1997

1. Longest period of sustained low inflation since the 60s.

2. Low mortgage rates.

3. Introduced the National Minimum Wage and raised it to £5.52.

4. Over 14,000 more police in England and Wales.

5. Cut overall crime by 32 per cent.

6. Record levels of literacy and numeracy in schools.

7. Young people achieving some of the best ever results at 14, 16, and 18.

8. Funding for every pupil in England has doubled.

9. Employment is at its highest level ever.

10. Written off up to 100 per cent of debt owed by poorest countries.

11. 85,000 more nurses.

12. 32,000 more doctors.

13. Brought back matrons to hospital wards.

14. Devolved power to the Scottish Parliament.

15. Devolved power to the Welsh Assembly.

16. Dads now get paternity leave of 2 weeks for the first time.

17. NHS Direct offering free convenient patient advice.

18. Gift aid was worth £828 million to charities last year.

19. Restored city-wide government to London.

20. Record number of students in higher education.

21. Child benefit up 26 per cent since 1997.

22. Delivered 2,200 Sure Start Children’s Centres.

23. Introduced the Equality and Human Rights Commission.

24. £200 winter fuel payment to pensioners & up to £300 for over-80s.

25. On course to exceed our Kyoto target for reducing greenhouse gas emissions.

26. Restored devolved government to Northern Ireland.

27. Over 36,000 more teachers in England and 274,000 more support staff and teaching assistants.

28. All full time workers now have a right to 24 days paid holiday.

29. A million pensioners lifted out of poverty.

30. 600,000 children lifted out of relative poverty.

31. Introduced child tax credit giving more money to parents.

32. Scrapped Section 28 and introduced Civil Partnerships.

33. Brought over 1 million social homes up to standard.

34. Inpatient waiting lists down by over half a million since 1997.

35. Banned fox hunting.

36. Cleanest rivers, beaches, drinking water and air since before the industrial revolution.

37. Free TV licences for over-75s.

38. Banned fur farming and the testing of cosmetics on animals.

39. Free breast cancer screening for all women aged between 50-70.

40. Free off peak local bus travel for over-60s.

41. New Deal - helped over 1.8 million people into work.

42. Over 3 million child trust funds have been started.

43. Free eye test for over 60s.

44. More than doubled the number of apprenticeships.

45. Free entry to national museums and galleries.

46. Overseas aid budget more than doubled.

47. Heart disease deaths down by 150,000 and cancer deaths down by 50,000.

48. Cut long-term youth unemployment by 75 per cent.

49. Free nursery places for every three and four-year-olds.

50. Free fruit for most four to six-year-olds at school.

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Our top 50 achievements since being elected in 1997

1. Longest period of sustained low inflation since the 60s.

2. Low mortgage rates.

3. Introduced the National Minimum Wage and raised it to £5.52.

4. Over 14,000 more police in England and Wales.

5. Cut overall crime by 32 per cent.

6. Record levels of literacy and numeracy in schools.

7. Young people achieving some of the best ever results at 14, 16, and 18.

8. Funding for every pupil in England has doubled.

9. Employment is at its highest level ever.

10. Written off up to 100 per cent of debt owed by poorest countries.

11. 85,000 more nurses.

12. 32,000 more doctors.

13. Brought back matrons to hospital wards.

14. Devolved power to the Scottish Parliament.

15. Devolved power to the Welsh Assembly.

16. Dads now get paternity leave of 2 weeks for the first time.

17. NHS Direct offering free convenient patient advice.

18. Gift aid was worth £828 million to charities last year.

19. Restored city-wide government to London.

20. Record number of students in higher education.

21. Child benefit up 26 per cent since 1997.

22. Delivered 2,200 Sure Start Children’s Centres.

23. Introduced the Equality and Human Rights Commission.

24. £200 winter fuel payment to pensioners & up to £300 for over-80s.

25. On course to exceed our Kyoto target for reducing greenhouse gas emissions.

26. Restored devolved government to Northern Ireland.

27. Over 36,000 more teachers in England and 274,000 more support staff and teaching assistants.

28. All full time workers now have a right to 24 days paid holiday.

29. A million pensioners lifted out of poverty.

30. 600,000 children lifted out of relative poverty.

31. Introduced child tax credit giving more money to parents.

32. Scrapped Section 28 and introduced Civil Partnerships.

33. Brought over 1 million social homes up to standard.

34. Inpatient waiting lists down by over half a million since 1997.

35. Banned fox hunting.

36. Cleanest rivers, beaches, drinking water and air since before the industrial revolution.

37. Free TV licences for over-75s.

38. Banned fur farming and the testing of cosmetics on animals.

39. Free breast cancer screening for all women aged between 50-70.

40. Free off peak local bus travel for over-60s.

41. New Deal - helped over 1.8 million people into work.

42. Over 3 million child trust funds have been started.

43. Free eye test for over 60s.

44. More than doubled the number of apprenticeships.

45. Free entry to national museums and galleries.

46. Overseas aid budget more than doubled.

47. Heart disease deaths down by 150,000 and cancer deaths down by 50,000.

48. Cut long-term youth unemployment by 75 per cent.

49. Free nursery places for every three and four-year-olds.

50. Free fruit for most four to six-year-olds at school.

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

As per the first comment

"But he has hidden £800 billion of PFI borrowing, £700 billion of pension debt, and £100 billion Northen Rock costs, by simply not adding them in. Labour's true borrowing is nearer £2,142 bn, or 160% of GDP. Gordon Brown and Alistair Darling are lying, and the markets now know it".

Does that make Labour "good value" for that kind of debt?

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I forgot the most obvious achievement - the nurturing and perfection of spin making Shane Warne look novice

and another

- the complete breakdown of immigration control (we love that one of course)

Heres another of Gordy's 'wrong un's'

June 13, 2007 at 2:54 pm · Filed under wages, public sector, statistics, economy, unemployment

A new study shows that the “low unemployment” which Gordon’s much heralded “miracle” economy has been built upon, is a mere sleight of hand, and that actually unemployment is much much higher than the government are willing to admit to.

Unemployment is almost three times as high as the Government’s official figures a new study has claimed.

A report by Sheffield Hallam University said 1.7 million “hidden jobless” should be added.

In particular, the report said that at least one million of the 2.7 million people on incapacity benefit should be classified as unemployed.

However, official unemployment has fallen by 15,000 to 1.68 million in the same period. The claimant count has fallen for eight months in a row, the longest continual reduction since the summer of 2003.

The claimant count, which covers people eligible for jobseeker’s allowance, fell by 9,300 in May to 880,400, the tenth time the figure has fallen in the past 11 months.

The claimant count has fallen for eight months in a row, the longest continual reduction since a run of 20 consecutive monthly reductions which started in the summer of 2003.

But the figures were overshadowed by a big increase in the number of people classed as economically inactive, which includes students, those looking after a relative, workers who have taken early retirement or given up looking for a job.

The figure increased by 77,000 in the latest quarter to 7.95 million, the highest figure since comparable records began in 1971.

The number of jobs in manufacturing firms also fell to a record low of 2.96 million after a fall of 49,000 in the latest three months compared with a year ago.

Today’s data from the Office for National Statistics also showed that the number of people in work fell by 10,000 in the quarter to April to just over 29 million.

The claimant count is now at its lowest total since September 2005 and is down by 71,500 on the year.

Average earnings increased by 4 per cent in the year to April, down by 0.4 per cent from the previous month.

Excluding bonuses, the figure was unchanged at 3.6 per cent. Wage growth was 4.2 per cent in private firms, down by 0.6 per cent on the previous month, compared with an unchanged figure of 3.1 per cent in the public sector.

There were 638,000 job vacancies in the three months to May, up by 21,700 from the previous quarter.

There were 2,000 days lost through industrial disputes in April, the lowest monthly total since January 2005.

The UK still has one of the lowest unemployment rates in Europe at 5.4 per cent, but the figure has increased by 0.2 per cent in the past year compared with an average European Union fall of 0.9 per cent.

Jim Murphy, Minister of State for Employment and Welfare Reform, welcomed today’s figures, saying: “Since 1997 the numbers on jobseeker’s allowance, incapacity and lone parents benefits have fallen by over 900,000 and they continue to fall. Today’s figures show that the number on jobseeker’s allowance has now fallen for 10 out of the last 11 months.

“Our welfare reforms, combined with a strong economy, are helping more people to come off benefits and look for work - but we are determined to go further still, and to break for good the cycle of poverty and dependency.”

Meanwhile the bond markets are making things uncomfortable for Gordon’s coronation, with long term interest rates rising by about 0.50% in the last week alone. The market is doing the MPC’s job for them and there’s nothing Gordon can do about it.

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Our top 50 achievements since being elected in 1997

1. Longest period of sustained low inflation since the 60s.

2. Low mortgage rates.

3. Introduced the National Minimum Wage and raised it to £5.52.

4. Over 14,000 more police in England and Wales.

5. Cut overall crime by 32 per cent.

6. Record levels of literacy and numeracy in schools.

7. Young people achieving some of the best ever results at 14, 16, and 18.

8. Funding for every pupil in England has doubled.

9. Employment is at its highest level ever.

10. Written off up to 100 per cent of debt owed by poorest countries.

11. 85,000 more nurses.

12. 32,000 more doctors.

13. Brought back matrons to hospital wards.

14. Devolved power to the Scottish Parliament.

15. Devolved power to the Welsh Assembly.

16. Dads now get paternity leave of 2 weeks for the first time.

17. NHS Direct offering free convenient patient advice.

18. Gift aid was worth £828 million to charities last year.

19. Restored city-wide government to London.

20. Record number of students in higher education.

21. Child benefit up 26 per cent since 1997.

22. Delivered 2,200 Sure Start Children’s Centres.

23. Introduced the Equality and Human Rights Commission.

24. £200 winter fuel payment to pensioners & up to £300 for over-80s.

25. On course to exceed our Kyoto target for reducing greenhouse gas emissions.

26. Restored devolved government to Northern Ireland.

27. Over 36,000 more teachers in England and 274,000 more support staff and teaching assistants.

28. All full time workers now have a right to 24 days paid holiday.

29. A million pensioners lifted out of poverty.

30. 600,000 children lifted out of relative poverty.

31. Introduced child tax credit giving more money to parents.

32. Scrapped Section 28 and introduced Civil Partnerships.

33. Brought over 1 million social homes up to standard.

34. Inpatient waiting lists down by over half a million since 1997.

35. Banned fox hunting.

36. Cleanest rivers, beaches, drinking water and air since before the industrial revolution.

37. Free TV licences for over-75s.

38. Banned fur farming and the testing of cosmetics on animals.

39. Free breast cancer screening for all women aged between 50-70.

40. Free off peak local bus travel for over-60s.

41. New Deal - helped over 1.8 million people into work.

42. Over 3 million child trust funds have been started.

43. Free eye test for over 60s.

44. More than doubled the number of apprenticeships.

45. Free entry to national museums and galleries.

46. Overseas aid budget more than doubled.

47. Heart disease deaths down by 150,000 and cancer deaths down by 50,000.

48. Cut long-term youth unemployment by 75 per cent.

49. Free nursery places for every three and four-year-olds.

50. Free fruit for most four to six-year-olds at school.

The forum has been rendered speechless! :o

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Our top 50 achievements since being elected in 1997

1. Longest period of sustained low inflation since the 60s.

the first five years of which took place under the tories

2. Low mortgage rates.

Leading to rampant house price inflation.

3. Introduced the National Minimum Wage and raised it to £5.52.

Introduced huge influx of foreign labour so ensuring that millions would earn only this pitiful amount

4. Over 14,000 more police in England and Wales.

Who spend most of their time filling in forms

5. Cut overall crime by 32 per cent.

If you believe this you will believe anything

6. Record levels of literacy and numeracy in schools.

Tests dumbed down to make this appear to happen

7. Young people achieving some of the best ever results at 14, 16, and 18.

See above

8. Funding for every pupil in England has doubled.

So have costs

9. Employment is at its highest level ever.

Shame so many of the employed are foreigners whose numbers have have kept wages down.

10. Written off up to 100 per cent of debt owed by poorest countries.

Money they were not going to pay anyway.

11. 85,000 more nurses.

Demoralised workforce in NHS

12. 32,000 more doctors.

Shame so many of them cannot find jobs due to MMC

13. Brought back matrons to hospital wards.

Somebody has to keep all that new paperwork in order.

14. Devolved power to the Scottish Parliament.

Irrevocably damaged the union

15. Devolved power to the Welsh Assembly.

Give me strength

16. Dads now get paternity leave of 2 weeks for the first time.

This is going to really hurt a lot of buisnesses

17. NHS Direct offering free convenient patient advice.

Dumbing down of healthcare in a way that will kill people

18. Gift aid was worth £828 million to charities last year.

Similar level of theft from national lottery good causes

19. Restored city-wide government to London.

Ken bloody Livingstone.

20. Record number of students in higher education.

One way of keeping the unemployment figures looking good while charging the poor devils for the experience creating a generation of more indebted youngsters than at any time before

21. Child benefit up 26 per cent since 1997.

Prices up too in the real as opposed to treasury fantasy world

22. Delivered 2,200 Sure Start Children’s Centres.

Which have achieved nothing

23. Introduced the Equality and Human Rights Commission.

And soon to bring this policy to its natural conclusion by making it legal to be biased in employment in favour of ethnic minorities.

24. £200 winter fuel payment to pensioners & up to £300 for over-80s.

Wow

25. On course to exceed our Kyoto target for reducing greenhouse gas emissions.

The Tories did this. Labour has achieved nothing in this area

26. Restored devolved government to Northern Ireland.

Built on John Majors achievment

27. Over 36,000 more teachers in England and 274,000 more support staff and teaching assistants.

Shame discipline has collapsed so negating their chances of achieving anything

28. All full time workers now have a right to 24 days paid holiday.

Well done.

29. A million pensioners lifted out of poverty.

As defined how?

30. 600,000 children lifted out of relative poverty.

And now large numbers falling back into it

31. Introduced child tax credit giving more money to parents.

Probably, in a strong field, the most stupid wasteful inefficient and damaging measure ever made in this area. Why not just charge less tax

32. Scrapped Section 28 and introduced Civil Partnerships.

At last, something I can agree with

33. Brought over 1 million social homes up to standard.

councils built less than 200 last year

34. Inpatient waiting lists down by over half a million since 1997.

At massive cost in misplaced effort and outright fiddleing

35. Banned fox hunting.

Bastards

36. Cleanest rivers, beaches, drinking water and air since before the industrial revolution.

Continuation of a conservative policy

37. Free TV licences for over-75s.

Good, well done, so at 75 I wont have to pay this iniquitous poll tax anymore, I cant wait

38. Banned fur farming and the testing of cosmetics on animals.

But did nothing as animal testing to meet pointless EU standards increased

39. Free breast cancer screening for all women aged between 50-70.

Always was.

40. Free off peak local bus travel for over-60s.

Good

41. New Deal - helped over 1.8 million people into work.

How many would have found work anyway. Probably all of them

42. Over 3 million child trust funds have been started.

Pointless gesture

43. Free eye test for over 60s.

Good

44. More than doubled the number of apprenticeships.

Keeps them off the unemployment register for a few years before they discover the low wages that they will have to work for.

45. Free entry to national museums and galleries.

Good

46. Overseas aid budget more than doubled.

Taxing poor people in this country to pay rich dictators and thieves in poor countries.

47. Heart disease deaths down by 150,000 and cancer deaths down by 50,000.

Continuation of an old trend

48. Cut long-term youth unemployment by 75 per cent.

Increased the number of people acquiring worthless 'academic' qualifications and charged them for it. At least it gets them out of the unemployment statistics

49. Free nursery places for every three and four-year-olds.

Good

50. Free fruit for most four to six-year-olds at school.

Wow

Words cannot convey how much I despise this government

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Words cannot convey how much I despise this government

Well you can convey it without speaking a word at the next election, in the meantime you can educate others on the reality of the b4stards and the depths of depravity they are prepared to sink to, to hang onto office.

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Our top 50 achievements since being elected in 1997

1. Longest period of sustained low inflation since the 60s.

those who are poor and have little disposable income would disagree with you

2. Low mortgage rates.

markets not labour

3. Introduced the National Minimum Wage and raised it to £5.52.

not a good thing, if it was im sure they would up it to £100ph and we would all be rich, innit!

4. Over 14,000 more police in England and Wales.

i dont see them, plus it doesnt matter how many more there are if they are being used in a shit way

5. Cut overall crime by 32 per cent.

in all honesty i felt much safer 15 years ago

6. Record levels of literacy and numeracy in schools.

cant say i agree, personally i think the system currently is shit and can be farr better

7. Young people achieving some of the best ever results at 14, 16, and 18.

i know a-level math was dumbed down 2 years after i did a-level math.

8. Funding for every pupil in England has doubled.

in real terms? plus someone is paying for it

9. Employment is at its highest level ever.

lots of people i know would disagree

10. Written off up to 100 per cent of debt owed by poorest countries.

nothing is free, someone is paying for it through taxes

11. 85,000 more nurses.

means nothing if they are used badly.

12. 32,000 more doctors.

i hate the nhs

13. Brought back matrons to hospital wards.

OMG NO WAY?

14. Devolved power to the Scottish Parliament.

that is good why?

15. Devolved power to the Welsh Assembly.

see 14

16. Dads now get paternity leave of 2 weeks for the first time.

17. NHS Direct offering free convenient patient advice.

nothing is free, someone is paying for it through taxes

18. Gift aid was worth £828 million to charities last year.

nothing is free, someone is paying for it through taxes

19. Restored city-wide government to London.

20. Record number of students in higher education.

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHH do we realy need 40k phycology studnets and 40k photography students?

devaluing degrees

getting 18 year olds into 20k debt which the 18 year old have no real idea what 20k is

21. Child benefit up 26 per cent since 1997.

nothing is free, someone is paying for it through taxes

22. Delivered 2,200 Sure Start Children’s Centres.

nice of them, what did it cost?

23. Introduced the Equality and Human Rights Commission.

24. £200 winter fuel payment to pensioners & up to £300 for over-80s.

nothing is free, someone is paying for it through taxes

25. On course to exceed our Kyoto target for reducing greenhouse gas emissions.

HAHAHAHAHA

26. Restored devolved government to Northern Ireland.

27. Over 36,000 more teachers in England and 274,000 more support staff and teaching assistants.

is that an increase in real terms, are we getting better education from the extrra

28. All full time workers now have a right to 24 days paid holiday.

you seem to think we live in a magic world, the companies just pass the cost on

29. A million pensioners lifted out of poverty.

nothing is free, someone is paying for it through taxes

30. 600,000 children lifted out of relative poverty.

nothing is free, someone is paying for it through taxes

31. Introduced child tax credit giving more money to parents.

nothing is free, someone is paying for it through taxes

32. Scrapped Section 28 and introduced Civil Partnerships.

33. Brought over 1 million social homes up to standard.

34. Inpatient waiting lists down by over half a million since 1997.

35. Banned fox hunting.

36. Cleanest rivers, beaches, drinking water and air since before the industrial revolution.

37. Free TV licences for over-75s.

nothing is free, someone is paying for it through taxes

38. Banned fur farming and the testing of cosmetics on animals.

stupid

39. Free breast cancer screening for all women aged between 50-70.

nothing is free, someone is paying for it through taxes

40. Free off peak local bus travel for over-60s.

nothing is free, someone is paying for it through taxes

41. New Deal - helped over 1.8 million people into work.

42. Over 3 million child trust funds have been started.

43. Free eye test for over 60s.

nothing is free, someone is paying for it through taxes

44. More than doubled the number of apprenticeships.

45. Free entry to national museums and galleries.

nothing is free, someone is paying for it through taxes

46. Overseas aid budget more than doubled.

47. Heart disease deaths down by 150,000 and cancer deaths down by 50,000.

nothing to do with the hard working scientists and engineers discovering new technology and drugs. was gordon brown who did it i tell ya

48. Cut long-term youth unemployment by 75 per cent.

the local chavs would disagree

49. Free nursery places for every three and four-year-olds.

nothing is free, someone is paying for it through taxes

50. Free fruit for most four to six-year-olds at school.

nothing is free, someone is paying for it through taxes

you need to understand one thing above all

GOVERMENT HAS NO MONEY

all of those FREE things you post, are not free, it is jim being taxed so john can get something for "free"

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#25 We are on course to exceed our kyoto emission target.

well what do you bloody expect when you outsource all the nasty polluting manufacturing to china and india??

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#24 £200 winter fuel allowance for the elderly and up to £300 for the over 80's

now how much has council tax gone up by in the same period??

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as good old Ron Paul always says

GOVERMENT has NO MONEY

the only money goverment has is by taxing someone, or devaluing the currency. Hence the Goverment can not give anybody anything for FREE becuase it has nothing to give away in the first place.

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I was going to go through their list of "acheivements" and rip the lies apart, but cells did a good job of that above.

Amongst all the other fibs, how the snivelling c**ts dare to boast about their "record" on education absolutely staggers me.

Our schools are in a terrible state, indiscipline is rife, no respect for teachers, exams are far easier so improved results mean nothing, and from i've read, illiteracy is at record levels, and we are probably the worst in western Europe. And that's despite the mind boggling sums of money thrown at it.

And I might add that indiscipline in schools today that is allowed to continue because the teachers can't do anything about it (and the little sh*ts know it, because of human rights laws) is one of the key roots of the social problems that pervade our country, the "yob" culture for want of a better word.

As for the NHS, where do we start. Funding has nearly doubled, yet the money has been sucked into a black hole of bureaucracy. All that money and still we have filthy hospitals and women in labour being turned away from their maternity unit.

They gave the GPs an absurdly generous deal, £100k+ for less hours. That's what happens when career civil servants are allowed to "negotiate", not that they know the meaning of the word, they wouldn't last two minutes in a proper commerical environment.

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They gave the GPs an absurdly generous deal, £100k+ for less hours. That's what happens when career civil servants are allowed to "negotiate"

a very very good friend of mine is studying medicine. his father and mother are both GPs.

although i like him and his family, they are grosly benifitting from a stupid communist system.

they are taking home before tax over £400k at lest!

no way do they deserve wages close to that for what they do! the only reason they get at lest 400k is becuase of socilistic mismanaged labour

at the same time, their two sons studying medicine (one at oxford one at imperial) are slightly worried about the number of new docors quilifing not finding jobs and having to leave the country

price controls NEVER , EVER work. its only a matter of time

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