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New Labour May Yet Win The Next General Election

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Come on, the PP are still tearing themselves apart over losing the last election. At the same time the shift in the economy hasn't started to bite properly yet (certainly not in comaprison to what is to come) and anyway the real estate market was already in a bubble in 2004... If the PSOE have won this, it ought not to surprise anyone...

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No chance. As the dust clears from the rubble of our collapsing economy even the sheeple will realise that Brown, and Blair before him, are squarely to blame.

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I hate to say it, but I think NuLab is in with a good chance in 2009/2010.

The Tories are just as bad and the Libs are probably worse (Vince Cable excepted to some degree). Never ever underestimated the stupidity of the British people and their willingness to be pushed around for their own good. For an example, see most of the posts on a similar place about ID cards.

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In fairness its a Global Problem, and the job of being responsible in Government has been outsourced to a little known company called WTYS Pty (We take your sh1t)

The Iraq issue is now over as the job of killing the women and children is nearly finished, only a few remain and they should die over a period of time of either starvation, disease, or Radiation Poisioning.

Gordon looks well placed to win the next General Election, he is the leader of choice having been elected by the British Public some years ago. In addition, with over 40% of the workforce working for him, would Turkeys vote for Christmas ?

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No chance. As the dust clears from the rubble of our collapsing economy even the sheeple will realise that Brown, and Blair before him, are squarely to blame.

Ah but will they? I am not so sure.

Maybe they wont blame Gordon, maybe they will just see it as world events beyond anyones control.

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Bear in mind also that Labour's Commons majority is large enough that it would take a seriously big swing to put them into opposition.

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Ah but will they? I am not so sure.

Maybe they wont blame Gordon, maybe they will just see it as world events beyond anyones control.

The electorate are disenchanted with New Labour as it is. The Tories are comfortably ahead in all of the recent opinion polls. As things worsen, people always want someone/something to blame. The Tories will take glee in pointing out Brown's economic follies. The mainstream newspapers have been and will become increasingly critical of Labour's mishandling of the economy.

Edit to add - As the only economist worth his salt in the house of commons, good old Vince will stick the knife in as well

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Bear in mind also that Labour's Commons majority is large enough that it would take a seriously big swing to put them into opposition.

How about the public making them swing from a rope in the courtyard outside number 10 for war crimes ?

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I reckon Labour will be saved when this economic downturn really does turn global. The "it wasn't me gov" excuse will begin to hold water.

I think they will win the next election.

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Labour will have as much chance of winning the next election as I will of playing drums for AC/DC ( I have never played the drums). The lib dems are starting to make a bit more sense, and I take back comments about Nick clegg coming over like a seventies open university lecturer, he has much more fire than I first thought, he even had Paxman shutting his mouth for a few seconds and struggling to come back into the conversation, highly unusual. Nick Clegg looks pretty p*ssed off, a bit unstable, and he is determined to kick over the traces of how the establishment does things (the walkout, demanding a referendum on leaving Europe etc) he probably posts on here. The Lib dems are going to pick up a lot of the disaffected, not listened to, fed up of the two party status quo vote, the BNP will probably get the rest. Cameron is going to have to up his game if the Lib Dems start kicking ass, Brown just can`t compete, he is yesterdays man, and soon will be p*ssing in a corner at PMQ`s because he has forgoten where he is.

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Let's not forget that one of the reasons the Socialists got into power in Spain was they promised to pull out of Iraq (which was no doubt fairly persuasive after the Madrid bombings).

Our lot - who are hardly socialist - actually took us into Iraq.

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If Jim Callaghan had gone to the country in October 1978 when they expected him to do so he would had won, waited, lost a vote of confidence after the WOD and Thatcher sailed in.

If Gordon Brown had called an Election last October when he was expected to do so, he would have lost, maybe he has learnt a valuable lesson.

David Cameron is now Brown`s greatest winning asset. ;)

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Let's not forget that one of the reasons the Socialists got into power in Spain was they promised to pull out of Iraq (which was no doubt fairly persuasive after the Madrid bombings).

Our lot - who are hardly socialist - actually took us into Iraq.

Exactly,our lot are f*cked, and they know it. They need to get to F*ck pretty soon.

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Let's not forget that one of the reasons the Socialists got into power in Spain was they promised to pull out of Iraq

According to a News Report they also brought in certain Legislation, that would have given them an extra 10% in votes. ;)

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I'd turn that around. Brown is Cameron's greatest asset.

Brown is not naturally popular or likeable like Blair.

I will still stick by my original post. ;)

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Original post is a clear warning that Brown could easily steal another term. The Conservatives have a lot of work to do and the polls show this. As we approach a general election you could easily see Labour pull back 5% and snatch a victory.

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I read once in the mail that one in four people are paid/employed by the government. I would'nt rule out another liebour term.

Consider three groups.

-Labour created jobs

-New Immigrates voting labour

-Benefits claimants

Against;

An apathetic, dumbed down general population.

=Labour win

Has anyone here spoken to a new liebour quango employee/job holder? They just won't acknowledge the problems facing the country because they are being PAID not too.

Immigrates will vote for Labour although I believe many Poles have a conservative outlook, but the status quo in the uk suits them.

People on benefits? A no brianer, Cameron threats tough action.

Most people I know are to busy (stupid) to bother vote and if they did have the sheeple mentality of voting for labour regardless anyway..

We're fecked.

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I read once in the mail that one in four people are paid/employed by the government. I would'nt rule out another liebour term.

Consider three groups.

-Labour created jobs

-New Immigrates voting labour

-Benefits claimants

On the other hand, Labour's overuse of 'management consultants' and civil service reforms have alienated many, and many of the key battlegrounds are fairly low on benefit claimants. I was not aware that EU immigrants were able to vote in our elections?

Bear in mind that in the last election, Labour's margin of victory amounted to about 100,000 voters in key constituancies. And this was with the Conservatives copying policies on both Iraq and ID cards that were vote-losers (IMO) - the anti-Iraq and anti-ID card votes would be far stronger. Few people were actively in favour of invading Iraq and few people really want ID cards, wheras the people against these things tend to have much stronger opinions.

Personally, I think that the 2005 election was to Labout as 1992 was to the Conservatives - basically a momentum win with the populace having severe doubts about the incumbants but not trusting the challenger. 2010 will either be a conservative win or a Con-Lib pact; bearing also in mind that the anti-conservative tactical voting may be less of a factor if Labout is sufficiently disliked.

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Anyone want to join in my experiment at the next election? Basically, I'm going to urinate into a shoebox, stick a red rosette on it, and see if it gets elected.

I'm 80% confident that it will.

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