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British Telecom Spying! With Other Isp's

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A number of UK ISPs, notably British Telecom, are intending to profit from routeing subscriber traffic through third-party computers based in China and owned and operated by a company in the tax haven of Delaware, USA.

The company is web ad delivery provider Phorm. The background of some of those associated with it does not make for comfortable reading.

BT (and other ISPs) are hoping to avoid UK privacy legislation as follows:

1) by saying the PHORM service is an opt-in;

2) that no personal information is transmitted.

In fact, the routeing of an individual subscriber's traffic through Phorm so that Phorm can sample and analyse a computer user's online behaviour, browsing habits, etc is a clear third-party intrusion.

Not only that: no traffic is excepted. Whether the user allows BT Internet to install a cookie on his / her home computer or not, their Internet usage will no longer be a matter between them and their ISP but between them, BT Internet, and Phorm, for which Phorm will pay considerable sums to British Telecom but nothing at all to the British Telecom customer.

A petition has now been organised in hope of raising the profile of this issue.

If as a UK consumer you care about your rights and your privacy, please spare a moment or two to add your name to the newly launched petition:

http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/ispphorm

However the information commissioner is on to them.

There is also a worrying debate on the bt forum

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Yep at work we have had to stop faxing/emailing and phoning certain information this month as bt can't garantee it wont be routed out of the country past prying eyes.

Back to posting encrypted cds what could possibly go wrong :rolleyes:

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The traffic does not even need to go abroad as our goverment has allowed the USA to install a massive listening post here on UK soil.

Don't ask me who gave them the right to do that but it's time to start thinking about encrypted posts if your not keen on using translusent envolopes for your posts.

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If like me you find these adverts distracting, you can block them by editing the host file and adding this entry.

127.0.0.1 pagead2.googlesyndication.com

To open the host file to edit type in the run menu, C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\DRIVERS\ETC then double click host files and open with notepad.

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I think this is happening in Rep of Ireland too - just caught the end of an irish radio show two or three days ago - where they were discussing this as well

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If like me you find these adverts distracting, you can block them by editing the host file and adding this entry.

127.0.0.1 pagead2.googlesyndication.com

To open the host file to edit type in the run menu, C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\DRIVERS\ETC then double click host files and open with notepad.

turning cross site cookies off is another good one.

Iframe traffic is being delayed by ISP's as they know most are used for adverts.

Another good one is to ensure your hard disk is full so that it has less space to keep hidden data that windows writes to the disk about you activity just incase you do a clean on the registery.

i would use a virtual image more often but it's a pain getting it all setup and working.

maybe it's time to use one of them encrypted socket type servers so that even your ISP does not get to peek at your personal data. bit like SSL but better from what i understand with a smaller overhead.

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If any one whats to have the information held on them by computers removed, it seems both the common law and statue law, including EC law will assist in this matter. In English law there are two types of property ownership, real&personal, real which refers to land and personality which refers to everything else. Unlike land, personality can be owned in the absolute sense. The information held forms part of your personality and as such is owned absolutely, it in fact ,tells part of your life story the copyright of which is owned by you. In other words the profile they are building belongs to you. You have the right to legally prevent them from doing so and have any information removed this includes credit reference agencies.

Under the UK Data Protection Act and EU law, this business model falls into the Opt In rule , you can't use an Opt out rule.

also, the IP of an ISP end user is strictly covered as personal data, and as so, the users property.

said user can at any time, send a DPA request to the ISP to remove any and all rights to process or export this data should they wish or is given reason to such as exporting to a 3rd party for profit.

the ISP/3rd party data controller can not refuse to abide by the consumers instructions given, and these instructions outway any T&C or other document a company might try and put in place."

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