talksalot81 Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 I agree that it would be possible to deal with... without really impacting our services. I am confident that the biggest pain we will suffer will be not a degradation in service... but the strike actions which will inevitably be imposed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Poster Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 I agree that it would be possible to deal with... without really impacting our services. I am confident that the biggest pain we will suffer will be not a degradation in service... but the strike actions which will inevitably be imposed. With a coalition here they will all fight their corners. Govt with no concensus and a track record of brinkmanship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Poster Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 I suppose it was too much to hope for that they would suddenly get some sense and fight together rather than against each other. I do not think that can ever happen with our system. The Executive members see no benefit in collective achievement, they can only appeal to their individual camps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malthus Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-11389657 Business men commit suicide over way treated by banks? Are these churchmen really encouraging usury ? Maybe if they had stuck to "never a lender or a borrower be" their flock would be better off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballyk Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 I notice they didn't bring the Presbyterians along. Now, I wonder why that can be... Are these churchmen really encouraging usury ? Maybe if they had stuck to "never a lender or a borrower be" their flock would be better off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malthus Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/special-treatment-case-over-cuts-14955942.html Northern Ireland can argue for special treatment in the face of the threatened £2 billion Treasury cuts, First Minister Peter Robinson has said. His comments came despite claims by Finance Minister Sammy Wilson that London would be unimpressed by such pleas. You'll be able to hear the treasury laughing in Belfast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R + R Posted September 23, 2010 Share Posted September 23, 2010 14000 getting morgage interest paid! http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-11394712 rock on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
talksalot81 Posted September 23, 2010 Share Posted September 23, 2010 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/special-treatment-case-over-cuts-14955942.html You'll be able to hear the treasury laughing in Belfast Yeah... I cannot honestly understand how he can say this. He is almost as looped as Iris if he believes it!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Poster Posted September 23, 2010 Share Posted September 23, 2010 Yeah... I cannot honestly understand how he can say this. He is almost as looped as Iris if he believes it!! He is playing catch up with Sinn Fein. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pajd Posted September 23, 2010 Share Posted September 23, 2010 14000 getting morgage interest paid! http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-11394712 rock on! Its a funny old world. Work hard and save hard to pay for those that are in debt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxdiver Posted September 23, 2010 Share Posted September 23, 2010 Its a funny old world. Work hard and save hard to pay for those that are in debt It is so f*cking perverse that people are having their mortgages paid for by the government. People get free houses from the government. If you don't feel like working, you'll get a free salary from the government. If you are a lazy git, you'll get a free car from the government. If you look at these numbers: Mr Higgins said that since November 2009 they had met 1,224 clients with almost £19m-worth of debt. That works out at about £150,000 per person. How on earth could people in NI be given mortgages like that. What are you thinking? Those could be the high earners - wll, there's over 1,000 of them! Fools the lot of them. The biggest fools are the tax-payers - us! Best thing is to leave NI and the UK forever and settle somewhere where work is paid and gamblers pay their debts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R + R Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 recession catching up with the education industry http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-11405237 rock on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
talksalot81 Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 Yet universities continue to waste money because it is the easiest approach. As a former academic, I would LOVE to see a politician go into one of our universities and pull the finances apart... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R + R Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-11513606 rock on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R + R Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-11532847 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-11530388 whoops! rock on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ride_on Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Where does the 30% public sector employment figure come from? I thought this was more like 70% with more public dependant jobs in the private sector. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pajd Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 (edited) Anyone watch spotlight lastnight? I only watched the report during the first 5 or so minutes (i saw the panel and then decided to go to bed). Didn't make for good veiwing at all. Anglea McGowan was interviewd (although after this rubbish i have no idea why http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/8397938.stm) There was some other guy getting interviewed in the new high rise apartment block in Belfast and painted a very dim future. How did the rest of the programme go? Edited October 13, 2010 by pajd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malthus Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Anyone watch spotlight lastnight? I only watched the report during the first 5 or so minutes (i saw the panel and then decided to go to bed). Didn't make for good veiwing at all. Anglea McGowan was interviewd (although after this rubbish i have no idea why http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/8397938.stm) There was some other guy getting interviewed in the new high rise apartment block in Belfast and painted a very dim future. How did the rest of the programme go? Awful program imho , didn't make it to the end as so much nonsense was spouted The thing that is bugging me is that the government budget increased above inflation for many years but a freeze in growth of budgets seen as a disaster. :angry: The one good point on last nights program was a business woman stating that her employees did the work of 3 civil servants , the civil servants and union reps were not impressed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BelfastVI Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Where does the 30% public sector employment figure come from? I thought this was more like 70% with more public dependant jobs in the private sector. I think the figure is actually 28% compared to 22% in the uk (as low as 19% in some areas). This is the figure for the directly employed. You must add to that the wider circle of the service industry etc that tends them and then include other 'trades' such as health service and teachers that may not be included in the above. Obviously you have to do the same for other districts as well. But it seams clear that we have, at least 25% more people employed by the government here than average. At times certain things were de-centralise to various employment black spots around the UK. The TAX offices are in Coleraine, Cardiff and Manchester. The are other 'civil Service things that NI carries out for the whole of the UK (cant remember what they are but I am sure they are very important). The thing is, during and shortly after the troubles, some of our MP's etc actually did some good and convinced the UK government to take a risk and move these jobs over here to Coleraine, BT to Enniskillen and others to Stroke City. So we have to be careful we don't get what we wish for. I am all for cutting the fat off the system but I wouldn't like to see these, hard won jobs re-located back to England just to show that we were able to make the cuts. We have a higher proportion of civil Servants in NI compared to the UK, based on population. People automatically equate this with over governance and wastage (which I am sure exists). However they forget that convincing the UK establishment to move these jobs to Cardiff and NI was, at one time viewed as a great success and the fact that we have more public jobs here, per head than Wales shows that someone done a good job. Whilst there has to be cuts I would like to think that we would have the intelligence to hold on the the jobs (at least in percentage terms) that were so hard won. Non recruitment and natural retirements accounts for 6 to 10% of the public sector's work force. Over the last two years there has been very little recruitment and lots or retirements. Wonder where that has left them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BelfastVI Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 Bbc Link I see they have confirmed that the £18bn Captail Funding package will not be cut. Sounds like a bit of a fudge to me. But at lease it's a good news story for NI. Welcome news for everybody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R + R Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 Bbc Link I see they have confirmed that the £18bn Captail Funding package will not be cut. Sounds like a bit of a fudge to me. But at lease it's a good news story for NI. Welcome news for everybody. if i read it correctly maybe not as good news as the headline sugests from 05 till now they have already spent near enough 10 bill or 2 bill /year from now till 18 they have 8 bill or i bill/year so in reality the construction budget per year will be half of what the industry had become accustomed too never mind what inflation will do to the budgets purchasing power but hey half a loaf is better than b*gger all rock on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Poster Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 (edited) if i read it correctly maybe not as good news as the headline sugests from 05 till now they have already spent near enough 10 bill or 2 bill /year from now till 18 they have 8 bill or i bill/year so in reality the construction budget per year will be half of what the industry had become accustomed too never mind what inflation will do to the budgets purchasing power but hey half a loaf is better than b*gger all rock on! I read it like that as well. The spin is sickening. Edited October 15, 2010 by Bill Poster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BelfastVI Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 Ok so the £1bn or so, per year, that we thought they were going to take off us- now wont be taken off us. You are right it is sickening. Not good news at all. There has been no change to the timetable, as I understand it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyes wide open Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 that 1bn will likely secure £1.3bn's worth of 2007 output or more, certainly over the initial years, tender prices are through the floor. some limited material prices in construction may be inflating, but they are more than offset by deflating labour and equipment rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R + R Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 wonder how much it cost our politicians to find out this? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-11582048 i thought they were suposed to have their fingers on the pulse rock on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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