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In the past wealthy business people and companies put something back into the community, they built cheap houses for the workers..

For coal miners, ship workers, textile workers...

At least they had somewhere to live, and would remain with the company for many years.

Today, the big corporations have not done this - they are not giving anything back.

Altogether now, BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.......................

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In the past wealthy business people and companies put something back into the community, they built cheap houses for the workers..

For coal miners, ship workers, textile workers...

At least they had somewhere to live, and would remain with the company for many years.

Today, the big corporations have not done this - they are not giving anything back.

Altogether now, BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.......................

Yup I entirely agree.

In the past rich people felt to need to become philanthropic but this hasn't been the case for a long time.

There still is a culture of philanthropy in the US however.

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Debt based money and fractional reserve banking system. There's an elderly man in a small house in Crewe that owns the original penny that all loans have been derived from. When he drops it down the back of the sofa we have a recession.

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Debt based money and fractional reserve banking system. There's an elderly man in a small house in Crewe that owns the original penny that all loans have been derived from. When he drops it down the back of the sofa we have a recession.

Sorry wrong thread¬!

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Message to Billionaire and multimillionaire business men and women - I know you read these pages -

I would be happy to have 1/3 off my annual salary if employers could provide a home for me and the Ms - 2 up 2 down will do.

Given that incentive we work with a common purpose.

Think about it.

For tied housing you are looking at more like 60% off your wages (bearing in mind you don't get a choice which house etc).

One thing to lose your job and get fired, another to be kicked onto the street.

The other thing associated with these 'model villages' was that the employer would impose his values upon you (most notable: no pubs, no drinking, no shops selling anything they didn't like, no entertainment during church hours etc).

The behaviour in the US of business with regard to their "company towns" is just a catalogue of abuse quite frankly, you'd be more at liberty in low-level prison.

It was supposed to be philanthropy but you don't need to be a genius to spot that there might have been other agendas involved.

In theory its a nice idea, in practice you are going from being a citizen to a serf doffing his cap to his lordship.

Not having a direct link between your employer and your dwelling is probably for the best when it comes down to it.

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In days gone by there was something called a job for life, and what came with it was a home for life, and a pension for the rest of your life.

And John Major would cycle to church on warm beer past the village green where everyone was playing cricket with the local midwife.

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In the past wealthy business people and companies put something back into the community, they built cheap houses for the workers..

Do you think any of the 19th century worker-villages would actually get through the current planning system? Could you see a council authorising another Bournville - they'd ratchet up the housing density and build on the park land, that's if it even got through. Probably recommend a high rise development on a brown field site.

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In the past wealthy business people and companies put something back into the community, they built cheap houses for the workers..

For coal miners, ship workers, textile workers...

At least they had somewhere to live, and would remain with the company for many years.

Today, the big corporations have not done this - they are not giving anything back.

Altogether now, BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.......................

The government took the money and told us they would provide it instead. They lied.

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it's because less and less people believe in any sort of God these days, because they don't think about Heaven/Hell, eternal damnation for being selfish gits etc- so why should they give away their money?

(btw, i am not in any way religious - but religion does have a way of making people have more of a conscience - be it karma or fear of going to hell)

reading Fast Food Nation at the moment, brilliant chapters on how meat packing plants are run and how the workers are treated worse than animals and how the companies don't care about how many people get killed as long as they make their profits - it turns your stomach.

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Do you think any of the 19th century worker-villages would actually get through the current planning system? Could you see a council authorising another Bournville - they'd ratchet up the housing density and build on the park land, that's if it even got through. Probably recommend a high rise development on a brown field site.

Cadburys are trying to sell the Keynsham plant land, laying off 500+ workers and building a new plant in Poland. The Quakers who formed Cadburys are turning in their graves.

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For tied housing you are looking at more like 60% off your wages (bearing in mind you don't get a choice which house etc).

One thing to lose your job and get fired, another to be kicked onto the street.

The other thing associated with these 'model villages' was that the employer would impose his values upon you (most notable: no pubs, no drinking, no shops selling anything they didn't like, no entertainment during church hours etc).

The behaviour in the US of business with regard to their "company towns" is just a catalogue of abuse quite frankly, you'd be more at liberty in low-level prison.

It was supposed to be philanthropy but you don't need to be a genius to spot that there might have been other agendas involved.

In theory its a nice idea, in practice you are going from being a citizen to a serf doffing his cap to his lordship.

Not having a direct link between your employer and your dwelling is probably for the best when it comes down to it.

You left out no money.

In the Welsh mining valleys the pit owners would pay people in their own currency which was only exchangeable in shops and businesses they ran. Hence one of the reasons, amongst those you mentioned, why we had the Labour Movement. Manny Shinwell and Co would spin in their graves if they saw Brown and Co licking up to the super rich and making the super rich even richer!

A Souless Society loses its way in so many ways.

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Today, the big corporations have not done this - they are not giving anything back.

Altogether now, BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.......................

Nowadays it's all taken care of through the tax system. Rich people give most of their earnings away. We are the greatest philanthropists who have ever lived.

(P.S. I'm still waiting for a thankyou from some of you poor people out there).

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UK philanthropists we have known...need to be careful here as some of these rich guys are very hot on defamation...

Richard Branson - does a bit for charity every now and again...makes use of offshore tax havens for tax efficiency reasons?

TCI - the children's investment fund. Big hedge fund. Tax efficiency reasons?

Northern Rock - cites a small charity as beneficiaries on its securitisation of mortgages for tax efficiency reasons?

tax efficiency :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

didn't know there was an emoticon limit here!

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