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Kenya, Could It Happen In The Uk

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Looking on the news channels at the appalling behaviour of the people of Kenya chopping each other up with machettes and burning one another due to a failed political process.

What has happened in Kenya started in just a matter of hours, turning a stable nation into one of chaos and violence.

Could this ever happen in the UK, we have an unelected leader in the Shape of Gordon Brown, is it at all conceivable that the public having been denied the political process could rise up and create civil disorder that not only brings the Government down but the nation with it.

IMO it is not healthy to have any head of state that is not elected by the people, and most certainly Gordon is not the UK publics choice of prime minister. Respect in politics is earnt, Cronyism has no place in public office.

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Hitler was head of the Socialists, its not the party you chose its the person running the show.

Your suggestion that we should accept a political party no matter who runs it is laughable.

If a Dictator wished to take a nation over all he would have to do would be to work his way up in a political party pretending to be sympathetic to its cause, then await his time in office.

Brown is not English, and he was not elected. He has no mandate to Govern this nation, he has not authority, he is an imposter.

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because they and the army have planned for it......

I have pasted a story I read on the oildrum yesterday about a situation in 2020. I like the bit at the end where the SAS execute Commissioner Brown :lol:

'One possible future.

It was 08:20 on Monday the 6th of January 2020. People were going back to work after the Government inspired ‘extended Christmas Holiday’.

That is, those people who had jobs. Unemployment had risen inexorably over the last 3 years and stood at 4.29 million. The first to switch off had been Pilkington, the Glass and PV panel makers, followed by EuroChem in Teesside and then, almost everything in Birmingham, Leeds, and Manchester. And all of the Central Belt.

The Government inspired ‘enjoy xmas’ propaganda had worked. Factories, offices and all but essential services had shut down on December the 23rd 2019, and , after ‘low key, reflective Christmases ‘ as recommended by the Ministry of Information, people were returning to work. The Commissioners Speech on Christmas day had been staggered throughout the UK to avoid brown outs and black outs.

Those lucky enough to still work were all now working on the ‘take a break scheme’. Again, this was government inspired as was a three day week for all but essential workers and the Police and Emergency Services. Workers were salaried under the wages board and the ‘dig for victory programme’ , inspired by the Second World War enabled workers to gain welfare credits if they worked at least the other two days on the land. Nobody played cricket or bowls any more. There were no cricket pitches or bowling greens

UK Commissioner Brown had instigated the National ID Cards at the behest of EuroGov, after the Mosque Atrocities rocked all Europe in 2014. various Neo-Nazi groups had coordinated bomb attacks against every major city Mosque in Western Europe. Martial Law had been declared in the UK and Parliament was suspended. Com. Brown retained special powers under EuroGov long after Germany and France had returned to ‘normal’ states of Government since the controlling mind of the attack was ‘Combat 18’ , (the splinter Wing of the BNP) was the engine of Neo Nazi Growth in WestEur.

Combat 18’s ranks swelled with returning EurUKFor troops in 2012 from the debacle of Afghanistan. They had very specialist skills and no prospect of employment. They hooked up with ‘Der Tag’ in Germany and ‘Beau Sabre’ in France, becoming extremely efficient killers. But the side effect was ID Cards and absolute control over working times and movement of EurUKPop. And rationing. And petrol, and certain staples and ‘luxury products’.

The anticipated Xmas day blackout did not occur, but the MinInf screwed up on Boxing day. They controlled all TV output and they replayed ‘The Snowman’ on the Telly at the same time throughout the UK. Just before it was due to go on, the whole nation got a big dose of nostalgia and ‘put the kettle on’. (Alcohol was rationed).

It blew the fuses throughout EurUK.

‘Lessons were learnt’ But not in time for the ‘great return to work’.

The weather was very mild for the season. In fact each year, the weather seemed to get even more mild. No kid born after 2010 owned a sledge.

And, on the 27th, Power was restored.

But on the night of the 4th of January the predicted deep cold snap arrived, descending across Europe from Siberia and penetrating as far west as Ireland. The continent was hit with light snow, followed by deep cold. Temperatures dropped to minus 17, minus 23 in NE Scotland, Everybody shivered, but the Gov Information bulletins: ‘wrap up warm’, ‘check yer grannie’ and ‘cuddling is cute’ seemed to mitigate the damage.

But since all press was channelled through MinInf, nobody really new the score. There were rumours of course:

One rumour put the ‘granny cull’ 120, 000 plus.

On Monday the 6th, EurUK woke up to clear blue skies, a crisp, frosty morning, and no wind. People struggled to work again. Tube trains powered up, lights went on, lifts ascended. All normal signs of civilisation kicked in.

The grid strained, but seemed to cope. But then E-Juice from EurFranceNuke

Suddenly shut off. France had its own problems that morning.

The turbine blades of the half-built London Array stayed silent. The never built Severn Barrage well… what can we say… at least the Marsh Warblers are content…

Then the Interconnector pressure dropped. Despite assurances of eternal, mutual support and cooperation at EurGov Level, Dutch, Belgian and German energy mid level workers all decided that they had their own problems that day. And Gas pressure had already dropped in Germany, Poland, Belarus and the Ukraine for some as yet unknown reason.

EurUK did not have enough gas in reserve in Rough or any other former North Sea Reservoirs. Gas costs Money. And ‘Austerity Britain’ does not ‘do’ as much money as it used to. LNG shipments were always erratic at the best of times, frequently changing course on the oceans at behest of the last offer from the highest bidder.

Power cut out at 08:20. The lights went out, The lifts stopped mid floor, the mobile phone network, jammed out as trapped office workers, parents with children going to school, nurses in blanked out wards, called from stalled lifts, dark tube tunnels, blanked terminals, Blanked traffic lights. Petrol pumps failed. Life support and dialysis machines went to back up power.

‘Nothing unusual, happened before … will be a bit late…’

The power did not come back on that day. The recently to-be- decommissioned Drax Coal fired Power Station, shut its turbines on Jan 1 as per EurGov Carbon Emissions edict. The Kent Carbon Capture PS was still going through shake down and the blackout that crippled London also crippled The KCCPS highly computerised and automated systems. It shut down, the Calder – Aire- Trent arrays of aging Coal Power Stations were not able to take the strain. The KCCPS and its four sisters in London and the Midlands were supposed to have (finally) gone online in 2015, but repeated judicial reviews and challenges in the courts by EurGreen delayed Operations.

By the end of day one, If you were on battery back up / generator life support you were heading west.

By day two, people stranded in lifts were dehydrating, dying. The ‘old got cold’ as the modern saying goes. They could not phone anyone anyway, and who could, would come anyway?

By day three, those who could make it to a supermarket had stripped them clean. ‘We don’t ‘do’ food was a common sign. Water was ‘not on the menu’.

By day four, the cops and ambulances were out of go-juice.

Com.Brown declared Martial Law on day five, at least to those tuned in to MilInf Radio on battery powered radios.

Trouble was, the County regiments had been well pissed at Afghanistan, pay cuts, lost opportunities. They were in no mood.

Worse still, the crack units, SAS and ‘Red and Green Fighting Machine’ had been specifically targeted by Combat 18 for recruits. And it had paid off.

When the Royal Anglian Regiment failed to fire on rioters in Norwich, the ‘great shift’ began. Junior Officers threatened the ranks, ranks replied by shooting them out of hand and gave the surviving officers a choice: Join or die. All ranks above Major were routinely cut down.

The mutiny spread. Com.Brown and the COBRA committee was captured by a renegade unit of SAS. And executed on the spot. There was to be no going back.

King William was restored as a figurehead of the Military Committee for BritSecure.

I have to go now. The lights are flickering….

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IMO it is not healthy to have any head of state that is not elected by the people

But Gordon isn't the Head of State, the Queen is. Gordon's the Head of the Executive.

I'm trying to think of a country where the Prime Minister is directly elected, and failing. Anyone?

Kenya is because people care so strongly as the party splits are ethnic, not political. It could happen here in 150 years if the election is between the Muslim Party and the BNP, or whatever, but not in our lifetimes.

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LOL! Brown is a plonker - but I am amazed that only now is he seen as politically significant.

I know that our political situation is far more stable than that in Kenya - but, in principle, what makes violence and riots in Britain seem so implausible? It's not as if it is unprecedented. Why couldn't something trigger public unrest?

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I think we could see extreme scenes of violence in the future. But for an entirely different reason!!!

Everything seems nice and rosy at the moment. Wait till people are fighting for jobs. I really do think that this whole multicultural society thing will turn nasty.

People will start to blame immigration for the reason they can’t put food on the table, rather than a corrupt incompetent financial system!

I just see things boiling over, and people venting their anger on each other.

Fingers crossed it doesn’t on this particular scenario.

Either way I think Labour has had it day.

edit: spelling

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Hitler was head of the Socialists, its not the party you chose its the person running the show.

Your suggestion that we should accept a political party no matter who runs it is laughable.

If a Dictator wished to take a nation over all he would have to do would be to work his way up in a political party pretending to be sympathetic to its cause, then await his time in office.

Brown is not English, and he was not elected. He has no mandate to Govern this nation, he has not authority, he is an imposter.

If Brown wanted to take over the nation he would need the support of the police and/or the armed forces.

Somehow I don’t think he has…

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I think it could very well happen.

If you look to our past in a recession it was mainly the immigrants that rioted, venting their anger not at fellow citizens but he Government of the day, and the establishment. The British People at the time were not happy with the Government but they were certainly not nearly in riot mode.

However today its different, the public have lost all respect for the police force that has failed them, and indeed the Government that has failed not only them but generations in the future.

I can see it happening if we hit a downturn, however I think it will be slightly different as I think the people will unite and the anger will be against the unelected dictatorship we have in office today that are openly refusing to represent the people that elected them.

I can remember the US asking why on earth Iraqis did not rise up against their dictator, given that the vast majority of the public living in Britain today do not feel they are represented in the decomcracy, its most likely only a matter of time before they refuse to obey the democratic process that has failed them.

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I think it could very well happen.

If you look to our past in a recession it was mainly the immigrants that rioted, venting their anger not at fellow citizens but he Government of the day, and the establishment. The British People at the time were not happy with the Government but they were certainly not nearly in riot mode.

However today its different, the public have lost all respect for the police force that has failed them, and indeed the Government that has failed not only them but generations in the future.

I can see it happening if we hit a downturn, however I think it will be slightly different as I think the people will unite and the anger will be against the unelected dictatorship we have in office today that are openly refusing to represent the people that elected them.

I can remember the US asking why on earth Iraqis did not rise up against their dictator, given that the vast majority of the public living in Britain today do not feel they are represented in the decomcracy, its most likely only a matter of time before they refuse to obey the democratic process that has failed them.

I do get a feeling that the UK is heading into its Weimar republic phase.... :ph34r:

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I currently see it like this.

New Labour have definately over the past decade adopted a policy of divide and rule, that fact is indisputable.

They have on many occassions stirred up the trouble simply by treating one section of society differently from another.

Race, Politics, Transport, Health Service, Finance, Housing, Education. Devolution was the first move.

There is not one area of public life whereby New Labour have not intervened and made divisions, breaking down previously cohesive and tight knit groups.

Its pretty plain to see from where I am sitting, I trust others can see the same.

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Looking on the news channels at the appalling behaviour of the people of Kenya chopping each other up with machettes and burning one another due to a failed political process.

What has happened in Kenya started in just a matter of hours, turning a stable nation into one of chaos and violence.

Could this ever happen in the UK, we have an unelected leader in the Shape of Gordon Brown, is it at all conceivable that the public having been denied the political process could rise up and create civil disorder that not only brings the Government down but the nation with it.

IMO it is not healthy to have any head of state that is not elected by the people, and most certainly Gordon is not the UK publics choice of prime minister. Respect in politics is earnt, Cronyism has no place in public office.

If you're talking about muslim extremists then yes. But I'm afraid a few million skinny Islamic extremists wouldn't last very long around here. I served in the Royal Marines and took part in the first gulf war and I can tell you that they are no match when it comes to war. We operated in groups of 50 and would easily take on forces as large as 200 and kill rate was as much as 70 on each skirmish.

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Looking on the news channels at the appalling behaviour of the people of Kenya chopping each other up with machettes and burning one another due to a failed political process.

What has happened in Kenya started in just a matter of hours, turning a stable nation into one of chaos and violence.

Could this ever happen in the UK, we have an unelected leader in the Shape of Gordon Brown, is it at all conceivable that the public having been denied the political process could rise up and create civil disorder that not only brings the Government down but the nation with it.

IMO it is not healthy to have any head of state that is not elected by the people, and most certainly Gordon is not the UK publics choice of prime minister. Respect in politics is earnt, Cronyism has no place in public office.

Only if you take away people´s TVs.

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Israel.

Nope. Appointed by the President following Parliamentary elections, or elected by the Cabinet in the event of a resignation or death.

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Nope. Appointed by the President following Parliamentary elections, or elected by the Cabinet in the event of a resignation or death.

The PM was elected by direct election from 1996 - 2001.

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kenya will happen here the moment the idealogical split of muslin-christian reaches 40%

at 30% they will want independence. 40% they wont accept the elections. 60% and the christians wont accept the elections.

theres only one way to get out and thats to ban religion.

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Yes i think it could happen in the UK and i'm not sure it's going to be the whites that start it.

The war on terror is bogus and needed to introduce RFID implants that are coming your way if you keep sitting on your a$$ saying what can i do !

Togeather we can do anything

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kenya will happen here the moment the idealogical split of muslin-christian reaches 40%

at 30% they will want independence. 40% they wont accept the elections. 60% and the christians wont accept the elections.

theres only one way to get out and thats to ban religion.

Wouldn't it be easier just to throw out all the muslim extremists.

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Looking on the news channels at the appalling behaviour of the people of Kenya chopping each other up with machettes and burning one another due to a failed political process.

What has happened in Kenya started in just a matter of hours, turning a stable nation into one of chaos and violence.

The question you should rather ask, was Kenya really a stable nation. I'll put my money on now and TIA bru... This is Africa... Nothing makes sense there, the man with the biggest sword will rule. Look at Mugabwe...

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