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http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/republic-of-ireland/barristers-plea-for-help-to-pay-private-school-fees-15071366.html

The Bar Benevolent Society of the Bar of Ireland, which provides assistance to barristers and their families in severe financial difficulties, has appealed to more than 2,000 barristers to help pay the school fees, mortgages, rent and utility bills faced by colleagues.

I'm sure the prudent members will rush to bail out the guys who played the property market and lost :ph34r:

After all it wouldn't do if the kids of the broke had to go to a state run school :o

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Will a new government of a different persuasion still want to stop a fire sale of NI properties. Sammy better hope Lenihan gets back in again.

Two thinks to consider here and remember we are talking about development land as shopping centres and hotels dont directly affect house prices.

NAMA has just purchased these lands at roughly 50% book value. I believe, and few will argue that even with this discount they are paying well above the open-market value of the land. NAMA acknowledge this and openly talk about value over a 5 to 10 year period. There is no incentive for NAMA to sell this land at less than they have just paid for it. They may well do deals - some money now some as you sell each site etc. It has already had a dramatic effect on land values in NI as who would go out and buy new land when we know NAMA will have options available (if you are NAMA free that is).

Demand and supply and the supply of credit to purchase. All these three things point to a very low value for land. It has pushed land to below its true value. What I mean by that is the value it should obtain to allow a developer/builder say 20% margin on today's selling prices.

What will this mean for houseprices? Taking demand and supply you have to ask yourself will the introduction of NAMA as the largest bank (even though they are not one) and largest land holder in NI increase or decrease the supply of new housing. From what we are hearing it will certainly not increase new build. Every pound is a prisoner with NAMA, to be quickly repatriated to its German fatherland. It will perhaps grind all but the strongest developers into the ground and force the sale of completed properties. All those 3 story houses and small apartments that are built in totally the wrong places. You know, the ones that couldn't be sold over the last four years. I think the banks have tried that anyway.

There will likely to be a increase in reductions on the units that no one wants. But what about a fresh supply on the new houses in the places people want them. That remains to be seen and NAMA may need some persuasion to re-circulate the build cost part of the sales revenue to allow the revolving WIP facilities that every developer has operated on.

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Debt forgiveness. A dangerous path to travel. Ends up being means tested so those who borrowed within their means need not apply. SF are pumping this down south.

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Permanent TSB has announced big increase in fixed mortgage rates for existing customers coming off fixed rates.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/0210/mortgage-business.html

the cost to the bank of borrowing money continues to fluctuate.

Only when they borrow off international casino banks :angry:

It's well past the time that new building societies were set up, pay a decent rate to savers and lend out at a sensible multiple, sorted.

But then no one got a multi million pound or euro bonus from the old style building society ;)

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Irish Times - ' Up to 80 properties set for 'fast auction' '

http://www.irishtime...478.html?via=mr

' Gary Murphy of Allsop said: “In Ireland we will state that the reserve will not exceed a particular figure. It might be lower, so it is a very clear message: if you get to that figure and nobody outbids you it will be sold to you.” '

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-12590868

The danger is the EU/IMF may look at the bailout and realise they were too generous :ph34r:

How sad that the all the Republic's righteous anger and fury that we kept hearing about turned out to be little more than a whimper. One set of cronies out, another in. One thing we can be sure of is that after a lot of hot air from Kenny, the bailout will continue essentially unchanged.

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http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2011/0309/breaking5.html

Fine Gael leader Enda Kenny has been elected Taoiseach of the 31st Dáil by a margin of 117 votes to 27 and has received his seal of office from President Mary McAleese.

Hope someone has a defibrillator handy when Enda gets his first look at the books ;)

Joking aside imho there's a big chance of default within his first 100 days in office.

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http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2011/0309/breaking5.html

Hope someone has a defibrillator handy when Enda gets his first look at the books ;)

Joking aside imho there's a big chance of default within his first 100 days in office.

the all consuming black hole

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/banks-will-need-another-euro25bn-2577524.html

rockon!

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