laurejon Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 DECEMBER 2005 Plans to boost UK housing supply The chancellor wants one million new homeowners by 2010 Gordon Brown has unveiled plans to boost the supply of affordable homes and the amenities that go with them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckmojo Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 DECEMBER 2005Plans to boost UK housing supply The chancellor wants one million new homeowners by 2010 Gordon Brown has unveiled plans to boost the supply of affordable homes and the amenities that go with them blah blah, I'm sick of that man. It got to the point that I have to switch channel when he's on the telly. :angry: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloo Loo Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 blah blah, I'm sick of that man. It got to the point that I have to switch channel when he's on the telly. :angry: I t would be nice if he WAS on the telly whenever anything happens - he seems to be the first to disappear!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the end is a bit nigher Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 DECEMBER 2005Plans to boost UK housing supply The chancellor wants one million new homeowners by 2010 Gordon Brown has unveiled plans to boost the supply of affordable homes and the amenities that go with them were they the ones that ended up going for £250k or were those Prescott's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckmojo Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 were they the ones that ended up going for £250k or were those Prescott's? Two Jags' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chichi Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 They could fill all those empty fields with new towns packed with jobs and milk and honey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy2Times Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 The chancellor wants one million new homeowners by 2010 Gordon Brown has unveiled plans to boost the supply of affordable homes and the amenities that go with them Here is the first one to be marketed, the EA has describes it as deceptively spacious with easy access to shops and tube lines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloo Loo Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 Here is the first one to be marketed, the EA has describes it as deceptively spacious with easy access to shops and tube lines. couldnt see this on BUYRIGHTMOVE- have you a link- i like the windows in the roofspace, the patio, and its detached Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Sacks Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 This article had a thread of it's own recently: http://www.spectator.co.uk/the-magazine/bu...-shortage.thtml "The government’s predictions for the growth in the number of households have been proved wrong, however. Between 2001 and 2006, according to the Office of National Statistics, the number of households in England and Wales grew from 23.8 million to 24.2 million — an average increase of 80,000 a year, far short of the 223,000 which planners at the Department for Communities and Local Government have been predicting. Their mistake was to fail to appreciate that high property prices act as a brake on household creation: the more expensive houses become, the greater the incentive for children to remain living with their parents and for warring couples to remain together. Meanwhile, the rate of housebuilding has quietly recovered: in 2006/07, 173,369 new homes were completed" Any Question yesterday with Yvette Cooper repeating the same old mantra. I phoned Any Answers after the show and tried to get on the air, I've managed before no problem. The call handler asks for my comment, I quoted the above figures and made my point, that high house prices are a symptom of monetary inflation, fear and greed. Did I get on air - no. Those figures destroy the fundamental government/bull arguments, they are from the ONS. The call handler actually said she'd have to check with the producer to see if my comments were "suitable", something that they've never said before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsea13 Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 I t would be nice if he WAS on the telly whenever anything happens - he seems to be the first to disappear!! I wish someone would rush the Tv set Brown`s on and give him an eagle`s peck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Skint Academic Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 ... and its detached It's not detached. It's detachable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DissipatedYouthIsValuable Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 The best way to solve the housing crisis is to ****** off, Gordon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloo Loo Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 It's not detached. It's detachable. Its the first "ready to wear" house- Mind you, I think the developers already thought of that one bearing in mind the size of 2 bed flats around here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurejon Posted October 7, 2007 Author Share Posted October 7, 2007 Gordon Brown to solve the housing Crisis Mugabe is to bring peace to Africa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimperne1 Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 This article had a thread of it's own recently: http://www.spectator.co.uk/the-magazine/bu...-shortage.thtml"The government’s predictions for the growth in the number of households have been proved wrong, however. Between 2001 and 2006, according to the Office of National Statistics, the number of households in England and Wales grew from 23.8 million to 24.2 million — an average increase of 80,000 a year, far short of the 223,000 which planners at the Department for Communities and Local Government have been predicting. Their mistake was to fail to appreciate that high property prices act as a brake on household creation: the more expensive houses become, the greater the incentive for children to remain living with their parents and for warring couples to remain together. Meanwhile, the rate of housebuilding has quietly recovered: in 2006/07, 173,369 new homes were completed" Any Question yesterday with Yvette Cooper repeating the same old mantra. I phoned Any Answers after the show and tried to get on the air, I've managed before no problem. The call handler asks for my comment, I quoted the above figures and made my point, that high house prices are a symptom of monetary inflation, fear and greed. Did I get on air - no. Those figures destroy the fundamental government/bull arguments, they are from the ONS. The call handler actually said she'd have to check with the producer to see if my comments were "suitable", something that they've never said before. Been discussed before onsite but the 23.8 million figure above seems to be about 2m out according to ONS website thereby making the Spectator article completely wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkman Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 (edited) But Gordon *will* solve the housing crisis. He'll cut interest rates and inflate the bubble like a hot air balloon. Then 70% of the voters will be happy again and vote accordingly. This is the future.... perhaps. But here's another question. Does anyone believe that Camerons crew would do any different? I believe the Tories are even less likely to tackle the issue properly. The rich property moguls of course will pressure them to redress the balance and devalue housing to help FTBs...... yeah, right! Edited October 7, 2007 by Darkman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloo Loo Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 But Gordon *will* solve the housing crisis. He'll cut interest rates and inflate the bubble like a hot air balloon. Then 70% of the voters will be happy again and vote accordingly. This is the future.... perhaps. But here's another question. Does anyone believe that Camerons crew would do any different? I believe the Tories are even less likely to tackle the issue properly. The rich property moguls of course will pressure them to redress the balance and devalue housing to help FTBs...... yeah, right! MARKET SAYS "NO" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenstuff Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 Here is the first one to be marketed, the EA has describes it as deceptively spacious with easy access to shops and tube lines. Has been snapped up by a property developer, he stood on it and turned it into flats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete95 Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 (edited) The chancellor wants one million new homeowners by 2010 Gordon Brown has unveiled plans to boost the supply of affordable homes and the amenities that go with them a) its a lie as we have come to expect from Labour B ) even if they did build them the BTL locusts will snap them all up, for priced out FTB's to rent off them. Edited October 7, 2007 by Pete95 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Sacks Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 (edited) Been discussed before onsite but the 23.8 million figure above seems to be about 2m out according to ONS website thereby making the Spectator article completely wrong. Can you provide the data you used please? The data I'm looking at on ONS only goes up to 2001. New homes built between 1991 - 2001 1867750 Household growth between 1991 - 2001 1750000 Household growth has actually fallen when compared to the period 1981-1991. Edited October 7, 2007 by dom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimperne1 Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 Can you provide the data you used please?The data I'm looking at on ONS only goes up to 2001. New homes built between 1991 - 2001 1867750 Household growth between 1991 - 2001 1750000 Household growth has actually fallen when compared to the period 1981-1991. http://www.statistics.gov.uk/census2001/profiles/727.asp It is the 2001 figure to which I refer. Down near the bottom it gives a figure for Households. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Sacks Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 I''ve some better numbers here, from the Communities and Local Government site, http://www.communities.gov.uk/publications...housingengland2 Between 2001 and 2005 the number of households in England grew from 20298k to 20686k, an increase of 388k. During the same period the number of permanent dwellings completed in England - 567.5k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimperne1 Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 I''ve some better numbers here, from the Communities and Local Government site,http://www.communities.gov.uk/publications...housingengland2 Between 2001 and 2005 the number of households in England grew from 20298k to 20686k, an increase of 388k. During the same period the number of permanent dwellings completed in England - 567.5k Sorry I am having some difficulty viewing the documents contained in that shortcut. It is only talking about England - we were discussing England and Wales. Secondly, you were relying on Ross Clark's article - are you able to find his 23.8m figure anywhere - if it is 2m out then it completely destroys his story don't you think? If his 2001 figure is wrong and his 2005 figure is correct then this would lead it into conflict with the stats that you now provide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Sacks Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 Sorry I am having some difficulty viewing the documents contained in that shortcut. It is only talking about England - we were discussing England and Wales. Secondly, you were relying on Ross Clark's article - are you able to find his 23.8m figure anywhere - if it is 2m out then it completely destroys his story don't you think? If his 2001 figure is wrong and his 2005 figure is correct then this would lead it into conflict with the stats that you now provide. Yeah ok, check out the figures for yourself. Whether the figures quoted in the article are entirely accurate or not, the numbers on the ONS and CLG support the hypothesis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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