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A good friend at work told me that he was out at the weekend and wanted to buy some chicken. Now, he's bourgois and so is his wife so obviously they wanted "organic".... guess the price....

he said it was TEN POUNDS for two organic free range chicken breasts?!!!

eh?

what's happening with that - are the supermarkets just ripping off folks or is there some bird / bluetongue / flu thing I'm missing.

ten quid for two bits of chicken - come on.

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A good friend at work told me that he was out at the weekend and wanted to buy some chicken. Now, he's bourgois and so is his wife so obviously they wanted "organic".... guess the price....

he said it was TEN POUNDS for two organic free range chicken breasts?!!!

eh?

what's happening with that - are the supermarkets just ripping off folks or is there some bird / bluetongue / flu thing I'm missing.

ten quid for two bits of chicken - come on.

i've said in several posts before that gold is a waste of time and chickens are the real store or wealth for the future - your anecdote merely helps to emphasise how correct i am ;)

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i've said in several posts before that gold is a waste of time and chickens are the real store or wealth for the future - your anecdote merely helps to emphasise how correct i am ;)

I need to buy chicken futures! :o

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Ooops, just found some in my fridge. :lol:

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A good friend at work told me that he was out at the weekend and wanted to buy some chicken. Now, he's bourgois and so is his wife so obviously they wanted "organic".... guess the price....

he said it was TEN POUNDS for two organic free range chicken breasts?!!!

eh?

what's happening with that - are the supermarkets just ripping off folks or is there some bird / bluetongue / flu thing I'm missing.

ten quid for two bits of chicken - come on.

Free range organic costs much more to raise, simple as that. It's also a smaller, more specialised market and supermarket pricing power may not be as effective (read: organic farmers may be in a position to tell the supermarket to get stuffed, while factory-style producers have no alternative). The chickens certainly taste better -- but you don't need to go all the way to a £16 chicken to get a decent bird, there are plenty of intermediate options. Still, I presume your friends thought it was £10 well-spent.

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....staying away from "filthy" local farmers or market stall owners, priceless :huh:

I get my mostly organic food down the local market when possible.

SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL FARMER

. COM :P

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Free range organic costs much more to raise, simple as that. It's also a smaller, more specialised market and supermarket pricing power may not be as effective (read: organic farmers may be in a position to tell the supermarket to get stuffed, while factory-style producers have no alternative). The chickens certainly taste better -- but you don't need to go all the way to a £16 chicken to get a decent bird, there are plenty of intermediate options. Still, I presume your friends thought it was £10 well-spent.

Just shows how fekkin brianwashed UK people are getting - what do you think the majority of the food is, that is consumed on the Continent?

Most of these countries are meant to be less wealthy than Britain - yet consume freshly grown, mostly Organic, vegies and meat. How do they afford it?

The crap they produce on the continent (esp the hideous pig farms in Denmark) is all sent over here, coz most of the continentals will not touch it!

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Just shows how fekkin brianwashed UK people are getting - what do you think the majority of the food is, that is consumed on the Continent?

I can only speak for France and Holland, which are the two continental countries where I've maintained a household and shopped in the local supermarkets. I have to say that the produce in Holland is similar to what's available in the UK, though there's usually less choice and less stock so the overall experience is worse. I'll grant you that France is often better, but they have a lot more land per capita, a culture of agricultural subsidy (so you may not be paying £10 for chicken breasts, but you're paying through the nose in tax and social sclerosis). The other thing to remember is that a sunny/Med climate enables selection of vegetable varieties for taste rather than for shelf life/transportability. Personally I grow as many of my own veg as possible, because of this problem.

There's no getting away from the fact that cramming thousands into a big shed is cheaper than rasing them free-range, and feeding them hormones etc. is cheaper than waiting for them to grow naturally. To expect a decent chicken to be anywhere near the price of a cruddy one is wishful thinking in any country.

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There's only one word for it - CAP (Common Agricultural Policy) which ensures that French farmers are subsidised so they can keep their farms open. There's nothing wrong with this per se but to expect the entire EU to fund better food for the French (because that's where most of the nice stuff ends up) is plain unfair.

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There's only one word for it - CAP (Common Agricultural Policy) which ensures that French farmers are subsidised so they can keep their farms open. There's nothing wrong with this per se but to expect the entire EU to fund better food for the French (because that's where most of the nice stuff ends up) is plain unfair.

no it's not!

:lol::lol::lol:

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There's only one word for it - CAP (Common Agricultural Policy) which ensures that French farmers are subsidised so they can keep their farms open. There's nothing wrong with this per se but to expect the entire EU to fund better food for the French (because that's where most of the nice stuff ends up) is plain unfair.

We also make the mistake of actually enforcing EU directives, which are written by technocrats looking after the interests of industrialists, and which are manifestly NOT designed to deliver the highest quality food.

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def 'Organic' - from the latin meaning "4 times more expensive and probably just as crud"

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A chicken in a normal life takes 26 weeks to reach maturity where it can either lay or is beg enough to be eaten, with the growth hormones they give them they reach this size in just 6, the downside is that they can barely walk, they have what is called hock burn where they have to walk on the flat of their legs in poop so the ammonia literally burns their skin.

They are raised in vast sheds with no natural light so have antibiotics added to their food as they are so unhealthy and are in such close confinement with so many others that disease spreads like wildfire.

Their meat is pale, tasteless and full of chemicals.

Cows are supposed to produce 17 pints of milk a day, with intensive milking and hormones they produce well over 100, the also milk them when they are pregnant (something not even considered during the war) the downside being they are in intense pain, are very sickly and so antibiotics are routinely added to their feed, the AB's and hormones all go through to the milk and meat adding to the health problems such as hormone fed cancers and superbugs oh and man boobs!

The food in this country is appalling, I am actually scared to feed it to my family so yes I buy organic wherever I can and I have paid a tenner for a chicken.

Although we are not designed to eat so much meat, so I am ok that I can only afford it 2 or 3 times a week, if I buy a chicken I use every bit ala old days, even making soup and stew with the carcass thats bloomin yummy.

Even the veg we buy is sorted by computer and anything not uniform in size shape and colour is rejected so we end up with this boring insipid fod that no wonder people by pass for the colourful packaging of processed stuff.

Up to a third of perfectly good crops are rejected so farmers have to produce so much more, and personally I would far far rather oddshaped fruit and veg, think about it, if you see a picture or a toy of a tomato its big red and bumpy, when's the last time you saw a real one like that?...

Anyone remember the programme that's life with the comical shaped veg? (oh how we laughed).

Pesticides account for hundreds of serious illnesses every year - proving it is quite another thing of course, the whole systen is skewed.

We have family in Menorca and I love shopping over there for food, we bought some peppers which I love by my daughter wont touch as theyre so bitter, yet they were so nice looking she agreed to try them and ended up eating them raw - couldn't get enough of them.

I have a 2 YO son who we was shoving raspberries in by the handful, he's literally never tasted anything like it, usually he's not a lover of them.

I am careful what I buy and only buy fruit and veg in season etc - again how we are supposed to eat and manage to keep my shopping bill reasonable but really its the same as everything in this country, we should be looking to go right back to basics, mind you if we are going to be building houses at the rate GB proposes were going to have to import a lot more, the same as everything though, they will offload all their cr4p to us and we will put up with it, we aint called Europes dumping ground for nothing.....

PS yes I know I can't spell.

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The problem for the UK is that there are so many consumers (and I'm using that word in the most pejorative sense possible) in such a small space. To sustain the levels of consumption to which we feel entitled, we have to squeeze our food animals and croplands hard, while also importing loads of stuff from elsewhere.

Fruit and veg transported from (say) Spain to Britain has to be bred for its ability to travel well rather than for its taste. Tough and rubbery = good because it can rattle around on the back of a lorry without being harmed. Juicy and tender = bad because it will get bruised and go off. Plus, British shoppers reject anything that doesn't look perfect; they go for appearance over taste every time. You should be able to smell the scent of strawberries or tomatoes, but the punnets in the supermarkets smell of nothing ... and nobody seems to care as long as the produce looks nice.

Personally I'm with you, I'd prefer to eat meat more occasionally and buy something that tastes decent. Unlike the OP I'd never buy chicken breasts of any kind ... complete rip-off. Far more sensible to buy a whole chicken for a few quid more and use the whole thing.

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Hmm, yes and no, yes totally agree that there are simply too many people, but look at the size of most of them, one their bodies are craving nutrients that they simply are not getting, 2 they are attracted to the wrong foods cos healthy food is dull tasteless and boring, I could go on, if you look at tv footage from the 60's and 70's the people are skinny, we are designed to be skinny, to farm, chase food and work, we dont need that much, the whole balance is out, for all the houses we build sand has to be taken from the sea bed, rainwater and sewage cant be dealt with (what on earth of the floods of the future going to be like?) and we are building houses at the moment that some lets face it will be for people not even resident here yet.

Chicken is an example a great one, if there is too little chicken the price will go up and so farmers will produce more, not great quality but there are those who will buy it, same as new build houses.

I have to disagree with what you say about people wanting uniform fruit and veg, we dont have a choice, and with supermarkets going into everything they can squeeze a quick buck from food seems to be an afterthought.

I would wager that if we were to put a crate of uniform fruit and veg next to a crate of higledy ones the people would o for the latter, I would bet on it, we buy this rubbish as we dont have a choice.

Shoppers go for the 'robot' veg as it's all they see, my kids have great time in Menorcan supermarkets and go for the knobbly fruit and veg cos its fun.

We cant go on ignoring what wea re doing and pretendng the country can cope with it, not to mention the poor lil chicken.

You know what?

I might emigrate.

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A good friend at work told me that he was out at the weekend and wanted to buy some chicken. Now, he's bourgois and so is his wife so obviously they wanted "organic".... guess the price....

he said it was TEN POUNDS for two organic free range chicken breasts?!!!

eh?

what's happening with that - are the supermarkets just ripping off folks or is there some bird / bluetongue / flu thing I'm missing.

ten quid for two bits of chicken - come on.

I am on holiday in the US (Texas) and bought sirloin steak (top quality "Choice" grade from Costco) for $3.99 per pound. Chicken breasts are $1.99 per pound. You can buy a nice detached all brick built house in a moderately upscale area for $150k.

We are being ripped off in the UK, and royally.

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Yes a good post but don't let the BBC tell the sheep, keep telling them we are under attack from terrorists, so called terrorists that should be thrown out if there was any truth in the propaganda instead of putting CCTV's all over the place and watching the people like hawks.

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Yes a good post but don't let the BBC tell the sheep, keep telling them we are under attack from terrorists, so called terrorists that should be thrown out if there was any truth in the propaganda instead of putting CCTV's all over the place and watching the people like hawks.

The sheep are too busy eating cows - or is it cows eating sheep?

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There's only one word for it - CAP (Common Agricultural Policy) which ensures that French farmers are subsidised so they can keep their farms open. There's nothing wrong with this per se but to expect the entire EU to fund better food for the French (because that's where most of the nice stuff ends up) is plain unfair.

As a bizzare twist British farmers get a higher per capita subsidy than in France as the UK has far fewer farmers, but they farm more acres per capita.

Back to the original question, organic chicken is more expensive in the UK as there are fewer organic chicken farms but relatively high demand, plus the supermarkets will charge those willing to pay what they can get away with.

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You can buy a nice detached all brick built house

New builds in Texas are almost all now wooden frames but with brick facades. It's not all brick. You just need to look at the frames of them being built to see the load bearing structure underneath.

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As a bizzare twist British farmers get a higher per capita subsidy than in France as the UK has far fewer farmers, but they farm more acres per capita.

Back to the original question, organic chicken is more expensive in the UK as there are fewer organic chicken farms but relatively high demand, plus the supermarkets will charge those willing to pay what they can get away with.

I totally disagree with subsidising farmers, especially when so much is disgarded, if they need subsidy they should put wind turbines in their fields and sell the electricity.

Prices are high cos we pay it cos we put up with anything cos we've turned into a nation of pushovers.

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