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today had some knocks on the door. as a rule i simply dont answer anyway. after all. no one is ever going to knock on my door and hand over £500.

anyways. i made an exception. and lo and behold i calmed the dogs an using them as an excuse to open the door only slightly answered. it was a tv licence 'woman'.

identified by her quick cagny and lacey thrust of her laminated id card, black important looking folder in hand

"dont panic"

she says putting the card back.

"have you just moved in ?"

she asked running straight into the direct questioning thats aimed to help me incriminate myself.

"im sorry" i said, politely referring to my no hawkers or canvassers signage on the door.

"i am unable to answer questions at my door and do not like to be disturbed"

i began to offer a friendly smile as i slowly closed the door.

"ITS THE LAW" she bellowed a few times as the door quietly closed in front of her.

i locked the door and turned off the light. the time was 9pm. then read a book.

what other service feels it has some god given right to bother people at 9pm at night ?

why can the bbc be pay per view. a cable option. i dont want it because all they do is spout crap thats making my own life much worse. they encourage, spin and do not give a balanced view as they should according to the licence it receives. so i dont want to be forced into shelling out to pay for my own mind control.

anyway. i dont expect her to be back with a complicated warrant to force her way into my private home. i never did say if i had a tv or not. i didnt even divulge my name. her cardboard commer tv detector van with the outer boxes than contain nothing but an actor playing a technician seemed not to be able to tell her which channel i was watching.

persky tv licence people.

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why can the bbc be pay per view. a cable option. i dont want it because all they do is spout crap thats making my own life much worse. they encourage, spin and do not give a balanced view as they should according to the licence it receives. so i dont want to be forced into shelling out to pay for my own mind control.

Don't worry, I have had that too and after I told the guy not to come back or I would sue him for harrasment or get him an ASBO, I never heard from the TV gestapo again (not even one of their usual letter).

I guess the BBC can't be pay per view as otherwise it would be harder for the government to reach out to almost everyone with their brainwashing rubbish.

There would be a serious risk that more people start thinking for themselves...

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"im sorry" i said, politely referring to my no hawkers or canvassers signage on the door.

"i am unable to answer questions at my door and do not like to be disturbed"

i began to offer a friendly smile as i slowly closed the door.

You're scaring me a little.

In France they recently slapped the TV license onto their equivalent of council tax - so you have to actively opt out and prove you do not have a TV. So in some ways the BBC approach is more sociable and charmingly inefficient.

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Missus pays for the TV license as I do not watch the thing (the Tribe set in my missus' homeland last night was the first terrestrial TV programme I've watched since Doctor Who was on). With broadband and a computer with a DVD drive - who needs a TV?

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In France they recently slapped the TV license onto their equivalent of council tax - so you have to actively opt out and prove you do not have a TV.

It's difficult to prove the absence of something. I have not owned a TV for over ten years and have received several visits from the TV License Inspectors who have 'requested' quite forcefully that I allow them in to show I don't have a TV - what do they expect, to come in to every room, including bedrooms, to take a look? If I knew when their visit was expected I could arrange for a tableau of unnatural acts to greet them in every room.

It is only because so many people put up with this nonsense they get away with it. I get letters about every three weeks from them, but from having opened and read one a while ago know them to be offensive and aggressive, so no longer bother.

When I described to an Australian friend, new to the UK, how 'TV Detector' vans trawl the suburban streets of this country, seeking out those miscreants not in demonstrable posession of a valid, up-to-date document to permit their lawful watching of TV, she was in hysterics, believing me to to be taking advantage of her natural antipodean gullibility.

I've long chosen to believe that the TV License system anchors a purposeful covert state assault on our sense of freedom, designed to facillitate continual and growing outrageous intrusion into our lives. One supposition also that they make is probably that, if we can be made to pay for our propaganda then we will absorb it with less awareness. In a fair world it would be Jonathon Ross paying us to watch his smug patronising garbage. And Scylla Black - how sinister do you have to be before being rumbled?

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I think one thing reason why letters and officials surrounding thr TV license scam are so snippy and aggressive is that they know the whole thing is going to end soon, and they'll all have to get real jobs. Like so many other government funded make work jobs, they are going to end as the tax take falls and the UK slims down its ridiculously bloated public sector.

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persky tv licence people.

Do you have a TV ? If you don't, fair play to you, but if you do and you don't have a licence then you're defrauding the taxpayer just as much as any benefit cheat, scrounging immigrant etc. and you get absolutely zero sympathy.

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We do, but considering nearly all the TV, radio & internet we use is independent in its content, I rather agree with Paxo when he said the system of buying a TV license needs to change.

I quite agree with you. The TV license is totally archaic and needs a wholesale change - but unfortunately, like road tax, you find that a lot of people can't be bothered paying it, which just increases the cost for everyone else.

The TV license is, in its current form, just an excuse for the BBC to waste money. And then, like Oliver, they turn round and ask "Please Sir, can we have some more ?". Bastards.

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Before I moved to Spain, these gits robbed me of a £30 refund from my TV Licence as I´d foolishly paid in advance. I gave them the full three months notice required to get a refund and lo and behold after I´d left and redirected my mail to a mates, I got a letter saying I didn´t give them enough evidence that I didn´t live in the UK!. FFS! It probably cost them more than £30 in time and effort for their staff to write me a letter. Obviously all about wasteful job creation in the country´s unemployent areas. Just another example of Stalinist Britain.

My advice to you is pay by DD and then you can just cancel it.

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Whilst somewhat worse for wear at a recent conference in Nottingham I came across a rather attractive BBC researcher some time after the free wine conference dinner. Unfortunately for her I was already in full rant mode so forced her straight into a discussion about why, since the Govt got the police to kick their door down over that 'suicidal' chap, the BBC insisted on spewing out that mindless tabloid tat through their news service. She replied that the BBC were (in her view) being held to ransom by nu labia and that the bosses were terrified that they wouldn't increase the licence fees/would instigate the same sort of public sector finance cuts seen elsewhere. That as much as anything is a good reason to get rid for me - of course you get the same amount of bias on commercial channels, but at least you dont get the pretence of impartiality!

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The BBC have recently shown themselves to be complicit in the crimes of 9/11.

Personally I feel a moral compulsion not to support this type of nefarious activity.

Don't pay the BBC tax.

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TV licencing are a private company paid for by a public one. They've got the same power to search your property as the samaritans.

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today had some knocks on the door. as a rule i simply dont answer anyway. after all. no one is ever going to knock on my door and hand over £500.

anyways. i made an exception. and lo and behold i calmed the dogs an using them as an excuse to open the door only slightly answered. it was a tv licence 'woman'.

identified by her quick cagny and lacey thrust of her laminated id card, black important looking folder in hand

"dont panic"

she says putting the card back.

"have you just moved in ?"

she asked running straight into the direct questioning thats aimed to help me incriminate myself.

"im sorry" i said, politely referring to my no hawkers or canvassers signage on the door.

"i am unable to answer questions at my door and do not like to be disturbed"

i began to offer a friendly smile as i slowly closed the door.

"ITS THE LAW" she bellowed a few times as the door quietly closed in front of her.

i locked the door and turned off the light. the time was 9pm. then read a book.

what other service feels it has some god given right to bother people at 9pm at night ?

why can the bbc be pay per view. a cable option. i dont want it because all they do is spout crap thats making my own life much worse. they encourage, spin and do not give a balanced view as they should according to the licence it receives. so i dont want to be forced into shelling out to pay for my own mind control.

anyway. i dont expect her to be back with a complicated warrant to force her way into my private home. i never did say if i had a tv or not. i didnt even divulge my name. her cardboard commer tv detector van with the outer boxes than contain nothing but an actor playing a technician seemed not to be able to tell her which channel i was watching.

persky tv licence people.

I'd love to know how you read that book after turning the lights off <_<

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TV licencing are a private company paid for by a public one. They've got the same power to search your property as the samaritans.

I'd love to know what proportion of the licence fee goes on funding the detector nazis. :unsure:

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"ITS THE LAW" she bellowed a few times as the door quietly closed in front of her.

What's the law exactly? These people are a private company with absolutely no rights whatsoever.

I haven't bought a licence for over five years, since I realised the BBC were a part of the Labour party. I have a pile of threatening and misleading letters from them a foot high. Every now and then they send me a recorded one. I completely ignore them all. I've never seen a licence inspector and if one did turn up I'd shut the door in his face. When a licence inspector turns up you have no obligation whatsoever to say a word to them never mind answer their questions. They try and kid people they have powers they don't by using phrases such as 'we have authorised somebody to visit your address and interview you under caution'. I've received something like that many times. Complete lies and surely harassment since they don't have any intention of turning up.

Many people do not understand the law correctly when it comes to licencing. It is completely ok to have a TV and not pay for a licence if, like mine, it cannot receive a picture (aerial disconnected, detuned etc). I don't watch any TV. My TV is used solely for the XBOX and watching movies on DVD.

I see no reason why I should spend money ringing a premium rate telephone number to advise a private company of this. A private company who I know from accounts on other forums will not believe me and then start to harass me even more. Easier to just completely ignore them. The TV licence is a voluntary tax.

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Stopped watching tv in January because the BBC stopped repeating the Good life.

I'm a big Felicity Kendal fan.

We had a visit from tv licencing a few weeks ago, he was fairly polite so I let him in.

He just checked the living room and said that we shouldn't get any more letters for about

six months.

For me, tv has nothing to offer.

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Is it even possible to detect a TV? Its a passive receiver (like its viewers) so how can it detected?

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Is it even possible to detect a TV? Its a passive receiver (like its viewers) so how can it detected?

OMG - I've just had a look to see who runs TV Licencing, and its Craptia, the world's worst outsourcing company, responsible for some of this country's biggest f**k ups . Anything I said about paying the licence fee I take back. F**k 'em !!!

And if they're running it, I doubt they could detect a TV if it fell on one of their vans.

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As a point of (vague) interest I used to work for the company that prints most of the TV licencing letters. I've also not bothered to connect/tune in my TV since I moved house 3 months ago and I have to say I don't miss the stupid thing one little bit. I'd advise anybody to do the same. I also got my first threatening letter today! I'm actually quite interested to see if they can even find my house because the royal mail certainly can't.

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presumably by the flickering light of the enormous plasma tv screen in the bedroom... :P

no. it was a how to instal your brand new plasma tv booklet.

yeah freakin bbc. im still slightly nervous they will go get a warrant, but you can tell if they have because there will be a coppa with them. though i will no longer be opening my door. im hoping they will break in and be bitten by the dogs. ill pretend i was in a deep sleep and if they find the telly which i have hidden behind a coatstand. ill say i just bought it that night and am about to get my licence in the morning etc.

hey. i might get a small fine, but i was already going to get a £130 fine as soon as i buy a licence.

i like my tv, i dont like paying for it. the bbc can easy put ads on it, or make it pay per view.

they cant do that cos they want to compulsory brainwash you.

if they didnt promote such bias about the housing market id pay it, but they state the fee is to offer an impartial account and i feel i have a case in court that they dont. and that is why i refuse to pay for it or watch their stupid programs about bill oddie and the uks top ten countdown of birds or property porn brainwashing.

(btw: the magpie won it)

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As a point of (vague) interest I used to work for the company that prints most of the TV licencing letters. I've also not bothered to connect/tune in my TV since I moved house 3 months ago and I have to say I don't miss the stupid thing one little bit. I'd advise anybody to do the same. I also got my first threatening letter today! I'm actually quite interested to see if they can even find my house because the royal mail certainly can't.

I suggest that you collect all those threatening letters, they come in many interesting variations.

If I'd kept the all the letters sent over the last six months, I 'd now have enough evidence to take

them to court, unfortunately I put them in the cat's toilet as soon as they arrived.

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I suggest that you collect all those threatening letters, they come in many interesting variations.

If I'd kept the all the letters sent over the last six months, I 'd now have enough evidence to take

them to court, unfortunately I put them in the cat's toilet as soon as they arrived.

wouldn't it be better to put each individual letter in an unstamped envelope and send it straight back where it came from? ;)

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