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Gordon Brown will today promise to create 500,000 new jobs for British workers.

The Prime Minister thinks
too many vacancies are currently being filled by foreigners
. He will pledge to provide British workers with the skills and training needed to fill them instead.
In a speech to his first TUC congress as PM, he will also announce tougher language requirements for immigrants to ensure they can speak English.

Its not so much the ability to speak English (who doesn't speak English these days?) that should determine anyone's right to come here but whether Brown is prepared to offer them decent, clean and affordable housing. If Brown was willing to allocate building funds for immigrant housing instead of expecting them to come to these shores to find the world's highest prices in relation to wages then it would all make sense.

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Gordon Brown will today promise to create 500,000 new jobs for British workers.

The Prime Minister thinks
too many vacancies are currently being filled by foreigners
. He will pledge to provide British workers with the skills and training needed to fill them instead.
In a speech to his first TUC congress as PM, he will also announce tougher language requirements for immigrants to ensure they can speak English.

Its not so much the ability to speak English (who doesn't speak English these days?) that should determine anyone's right to come here but whether Brown is prepared to offer them decent, clean and affordable housing. If Brown was willing to allocate building funds for immigrant housing instead of expecting them to come to these shores to find the world's highest prices in relation to wages then it would all make sense.

Today I'm going to contact Tickle.com regarding the possibility of them doing a new one of those multiple choice e-tests. "Are you clever enough to be Prime Minister..?"

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Gordon Brown will today promise to create 500,000 new jobs for British workers.
This means higher taxes. Genuine private sector employment (not soft contracts bankrolled by government) is shrinking.

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Gordon Brown will today promise to create 500,000 new jobs for British workers.

The Prime Minister thinks too many vacancies are currently being filled by foreigners
. He will pledge to provide British workers with the skills and training needed to fill them instead.
In a speech to his first TUC congress as PM, he will also announce tougher language requirements for immigrants to ensure they can speak English.

Its not so much the ability to speak English (who doesn't speak English these days?) that should determine anyone's right to come here but whether Brown is prepared to offer them decent, clean and affordable housing. If Brown was willing to allocate building funds for immigrant housing instead of expecting them to come to these shores to find the world's highest prices in relation to wages then it would all make sense.

Ah! Methinks he is setting the stage for an election. :rolleyes: Foreigners coming here to work, don't have a vote, so he is happy to tick them off...in the short -term.

AFTER the election it will be business as usual: with the indigenous, middle-of-the-roader getting stung by ever increasing stealth taxes, but getting short-changed in terms of quality of life/standard of living. :(

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There are no skills gaps, only wage gaps between what it costs to live permanently and normally in Brown's lopsided economy and the wages that are on offer.

Come the crunch people are going to be amazed how little employment opportunities there are going to be (except at min wage level, a level at which most peoples mortgages and lifestyles will be untenable).

He's getting worried, he should be, all too late no though. Stuffing people into govt sponsored trainign schemes to keep them off the dole is only another delaying tactic and statistical fudge.

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The problem is that Britain desperately needs cheap workers in order to compete against China and India. With Africa set to become an emerging economy, with a workforce living on less than 1USD a day, its important that we can access cheap labour to counter the effects and remain competetive.

The simple fact is that if business cannot compete, then literally thousands of Civil Servants, Directors, CEO's, Bankers, Executives, Hospital Administrators, will not be in a position to purchase Champagne at 1k per bottle at Christmas.

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Training grants, back to work benefits, and he's not creating any jobs at all, he's asking business to do it all for him.

All twaddle and no more than we'd expect from the nulabspin machine

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Who on earth would go to work for minimum wage?

Unfortunately something he didnt factor in when he imported cheap labour, many people like sitting at home on benefits, its a no brainer.

Go to work and cause yourself stress and expense, to aspire to living in a rented room.

Or get onto the benefits system, get a house rent free,with all the bills paid, then sit back and smoke havannas.

I suppose it is a credit to our education system that people can work out that its econmically more viable to be on benefits than it is to compete in the third world wages war with the goal being awarded to the first to hit the bottom on wages.

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There are too many jobs taken by foreigners. There are a number of Scots who need to be sent back.

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Its not so much the ability to speak English (who doesn't speak English these days?) that should determine anyone's right to come here...

I know for a fact that many of the Eastern Europeans do not speak English when they come here (friend is HR manager and has to employ them) but they get jobs because they are cheap. Some are employed as lorry drivers unable to read English road signs or have any understanding of the UK roads, but when you have to compete on cost to supply the likes of Tesco and Asda you are less likely to worry about these things.

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There are too many jobs taken by foreigners. There are a number of Scots who need to be sent back.

Hear hear (or should that be here, here)! Passport controls at Berwick and when are the English going to get a referendum on whether the Scots should be allowed to remain part of the Union?

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Ah! Methinks he is setting the stage for an election. :rolleyes: Foreigners coming here to work, don't have a vote, so he is happy to tick them off...in the short -term.

AFTER the election it will be business as usual: with the indigenous, middle-of-the-roader getting stung by ever increasing stealth taxes, but getting short-changed in terms of quality of life/standard of living. :(

Actually that's not quite true Aunt Jess.

It depends where they come from AND which election you are talking about.

Citizens of the Irish Republic, the Commonwealth AND the EU can all vote in local elections!

Citizens of the Irish Republic and Qualifying Commonwealth Citizens have full voting rights. So that would be foreigners with leave to remain or equivalent hailing from...

Antigua and Barbuda

Australia

Bahamas

Bangladesh

Barbados

Belize

Botswana

Brunei

Cameroon

Douala

Canada

Cyprus

Dominica

Suva

Gambia

Ghana

Grenada

Guyana

India

Jamaica

Kenya

Kiribati

Lesotho

Malawi

Malaysia

Maldives

Malta

Mauritius

Mozambique

Namibia

Nauru

New Zealand

Nigeria

Pakistan

Papua New Guinea

Saint Kitts and Nevis

Saint Lucia

Saint Vincent and the Grenadines

Samoa

Seychelles

Sierra Leone

Singapore

Solomon Islands

South Africa

Sri Lanka

Swaziland

Tanzania

Tonga

Trinidad and Tobago

Tuvalu

Uganda

Vanuatu

Zambia

needless to say these voting rights are not reciprocal. (not that there's many Brits wanting to vote in Pakistan as I understand it) :rolleyes:

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Yeah but, no but..........

Will Brown be willing to guarantee housing for the 95,000 non-EU he claims are here with more to come? Or the hundreds of thousands of EE who have a "right" to live here? Will he allocate sufficient funds to build sufficinet houses to enable the newcomers to live and work here without having to compete for housing that even the indigenous population can no longer afford?

If he plans to allow in, say 250,000 more by Christmas, does he have a plan in place to house them humanely?

Bottom line: if you open your frontiers to people to come here and live you should make sure there is adequate housing, schools, jobs etc. FIRST. I have not yet heard any policy statement from Brown as to his building plans for the new arrivals. Why is there no plan to allocate housing for the new arrivals?

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Yeah but, no but..........

Will Brown be willing to guarantee housing for the 95,000 non-EU he claims are here with more to come? Or the hundreds of thousands of EE who have a "right" to live here? Will he allocate sufficient funds to build sufficinet houses to enable the newcomers to live and work here without having to compete for housing that even the indigenous population can no longer afford?

If he plans to allow in, say 250,000 more by Christmas, does he have a plan in place to house them humanely?

Bottom line: if you open your frontiers to people to come here and live you should make sure there is adequate housing, schools, jobs etc. FIRST. I have not yet heard any policy statement from Brown as to his building plans for the new arrivals. Why is there no plan to allocate housing for the new arrivals?

There's no plan to house our own people let alone Johnny Foreigner.

Oh and you have to actually control your borders before you can "open" or "close" them. We haven't controlled ours for decades.

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Why is there no plan to allocate housing for the new arrivals?

Because there is no space for them ? If Brown was to say to every Labour MP/candidate we need 500 homes in your constituency for immigrants promote this policy, even cameron could win the next election.

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TWO people in every five are either planning to move abroad or have seriously considered doing so, according to a new poll.

The poll, carried out by YouGov for the Taxpayers’ Alliance, a pressure group, suggests that unhappiness over living in Britain has doubled in the space of a year. The equivalent poll carried out this time last year showed that 22% had seriously contemplated emigrating or were planning to do so. In the latest poll that figure is 40%.

“With a record tax burden, rising prices and barely improved public services, people feel that they are working harder and harder just to stand still,” said Matthew Elliott, chief executive of the Taxpayers’ Alliance. “In these circumstances it’s unsurprising that so many people are looking for a better life abroad.”

He added: “Voters want better government and lower taxes and the party that adopts this modern agenda will reap the elec-toral rewards.”

Last month official figures showed that more people left the UK in the year to mid-2006 than in any year since records began in their present form in 1991. The Office for National Statistics said 385,000 people left Britain permanently - 196,000 British citizens and 189,000 long-term migrants who had been living in Britain for more than a year.

A recent analysis showed that 5.5m people born in Britain now live permanently abroad. The most popular destinations are Australia, Spain, France and America, but there is a growing list of countries - 41 in all - with more than 10,000 permanent British-born residents.

Those who emigrate tend to be younger people without family ties and those retiring. The poll shows that 50% of 25 to 34-year-olds have either given serious thought to moving abroad permanently or are planning to do so.

Their main financial bugbears in Britain were high utility bills (65%), council tax (61%), rising prices in general (54%), the affordability of housing (51%), the rising tax burden generally (37%) and high levels of debt (36%).

Other surveys have pointed to nonfinancial concerns such as crime and antisocial behaviour, overcrowding, poor transport and high levels of immigration.

With worries about job security and unemployment coming low down on people’s list of financial worries, the Taxpayers’ Alliance says that the Conservatives, in presenting an alternative to Labour, should focus on high council tax bills and the overall tax burden.

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STOP THE PRESS!

Politician reacts to events when it´s too late! <_<

Exactly! This takes 'shutting the barn door after the horse has bolted' to an entirely different level. :angry:

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Will Brown be willing to guarantee housing for the 95,000 non-EU he claims are here with more to come? Or the

Are you having a laugh RB? The muppet can't house his own citizens never mind non-EU claims. He couldn't care less about housing non-EU, EU or British citizens, as his only aim is to allow uncontrolled immigration to keep the wages down & keep his miracle economy alive.

However we will soon see how he's been swimming when the tide goes out!

Edited by It is different this time

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He's just pandering to the right.

Then its a jump to the left.

Then bring your knee's in tight.

But its the pelvic thrust that drives you ins-ay-ay-ay-ayne

Lets do the '87 crash again.

I find this move very funny for a man who believes in a truly free market economy he must know that labour must be allowed to move freely within borders. It is only by having a truly mobile workfore that you get true free market economics.

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http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/topstories/20...89520-19761813/

Gordon Brown will today promise to create 500,000 new jobs for British workers.

The Prime Minister thinks
too many vacancies are currently being filled by foreigners
. He will pledge to provide British workers with the skills and training needed to fill them instead.
In a speech to his first TUC congress as PM, he will also announce tougher language requirements for immigrants to ensure they can speak English.

Its not so much the ability to speak English (who doesn't speak English these days?) that should determine anyone's right to come here but whether Brown is prepared to offer them decent, clean and affordable housing. If Brown was willing to allocate building funds for immigrant housing instead of expecting them to come to these shores to find the world's highest prices in relation to wages then it would all make sense.

Both the Goverment and the TUC are encourging mass immigration, when they know there are still a lot of unemployed already in the country.How can that be good for the economy.

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I suppose in a free market there is little you can do.Also there might be areas such as the Health service where there is insufficient skills within the UK.I would be extremely concerned ,however,if immigrants were taking public sector white collar jobs where there is limited scope for adding value whoever you appoint and where there really is no shortage of skills or candidates.

If one of these gold plated jobs went to an EU National I would be bloody furious.

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Are you having a laugh RB? The muppet can't house his own citizens never mind non-EU claims. He couldn't care less about housing non-EU, EU or British citizens, as his only aim is to allow uncontrolled immigration to keep the wages down & keep his miracle economy alive.

However we will soon see how he's been swimming when the tide goes out!

The thing is everybody is getting housed including immigrants with little or no money or job prospects. We have the lowest number of homless for over a decade as well as the lowest number of empty homes for well over a decade. There has been an unprecedented influx of migration into the UK over recent years that has caused massive strain on the infastructure but all have been housed which has increased the cost of housing, by again, unprecedented amounts.

Is not subsidizing housing the biggest cost for UK taxpayers? aswell as being a major reason for HPI?

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Both the Goverment and the TUC are encourging mass immigration, when they know there are still a lot of unemployed already in the country.How can that be good for the economy.

.......that's easy ...they prefer to pay the great British work force not to work by paying them not to do so....and welcome foreigners to do work for low level wages.....it is time the DSS costs are filtered into the CPI....Brown is creating a delusion ...spending billions for Brits not to work..... he is the 'Master of Doom'......coming to your door step soon.....!..... :ph34r::ph34r::ph34r:

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