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Teenagers attending grammar schools are outperforming pupils from wealthy families who pay to go private, according to GCSE results published today.

Or maybe pupils from wealthy families aren't that clever, while families of intelligent kids can't afford to send their kids to private schools any longer.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml...23/ngcse423.xml

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"For the last two years, grade As are going down in the independent sector - in comprehensives it has been going up," he said.

Maybe the ***kwit who wrote this should have attened one of said Grammer schools. Something that has happened in the past cannot be "going down" but rather "has or have gone down".

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Maybe the ***kwit who wrote this should have attened one of said Grammer schools. Something that has happened in the past cannot be "going down" but rather "has or have gone down".

I think he meant to use the present perfect continuous - 'have been going down' which would be perfectly correct.

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The reason for this is that there is extremely intense competition to get into state Grammar schools as it is free and excellent education. Incidentally, you also have to buy an extremely expensive house also to get in the catchment area as well having bright kids to get in to some state Grammar schools.

Private fees paying schools are often not selective so comparing selective Grammar schools with all fee paying schools is an apples and oranges comparison.

The competition to get into state Grammar schools is likely to get even more intense in future as many parents are finding it extremely difficult or impossible to pay private schools fees. I personally know 6 sets of parents who have withdrawn their kids from private school this year. I know 8 fee paying schools that have shut their junior departments and 2 more that are reducing the number of classes. There simply is not enough money for private schooling and buying houses.

The fact that selective state Grammar schools have just started pulling ahead of the average of all fee paying school is a reflection of the grim economics of paying school fees not the fact that state Grammar schools are inherently better than fee paying schools.

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Maybe the ***kwit who wrote this should have attened one of said Grammer schools. Something that has happened in the past cannot be "going down" but rather "has or have gone down".

There is no "E" in Grammar

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Or maybe pupils from wealthy families aren't that clever, while families of intelligent kids can't afford to send their kids to private schools any longer.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml...23/ngcse423.xml

In Scotland not that many people bother with shelling out for the school. The state sector is probably a dang sight better than the usual fee-paying St Custard's type of racket the English tie themselves in knots to access. We (lookee here!) spend more and have a goodish pupil-teacher ratio (n.b. not necessarily smaller class sizes). And I'm unaware of any truly feral sink schools of the sort that England seems to specialise in.

Come on, engländer, dig deep and keep the dosh rolling up the hill and over the Wall :P

Or you might consider moving here, since it's such a good deal :)

Seriously, we could do with the increased numbers, and we're not bloody cannibals like some seem to believe.

Come awa' ben the hoose, instead of hanging about the scruffy end of the island.

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It's all genetics. Wealthy men tend to marry airheads...the kids that go to public school have a 50-50 on the IQ. Gramar school kids tend to be more seious, more likely both parents struggling middle class earners. IMHO (as an ex PS person)

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I have just looked at the results of one of the country's top public schools. In 1990 55% got an A grade. Last year 93% got an A or A*, higher than the year before at 91%. Can the results get much better and will it be of any benefit? The only purpose of a GCSE is to show to a prospective university that you are clever enough, but with so many getting 8 A* grades, there comes a point where it is better to use your time outside of the classroom. Cultivating creative talents are a better use of time and will prepare them better for life, Oxbridge entrace exams and developing self-confidence.

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Easy to slag off top private schools... specially if you haven't been.

They provide an education, rather than the ability to merely pass a few exams. They also do silly things that pull down the results - push people into higher value subjects like science and further maths rather than home economics or general studies. They also do odd things like sitting exams a year or 2 early.

What I find especially fascinating is the vitriol with which some people attack education, these people are typically those with less than they believe, but usually more than they deserve.

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