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me too........

chavs are the least of our problems though......

Agreed, the biggest problem we face is too many I'm alright jack types who couldn't give a toss about there own kin, let alone their neighbours, villages or god forbid their country!

Socialists are the worse offenders as they want everyone to be equal, provided they can sit at the top of the pile being pious ;)

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then you are a bigger idiot than i thought...

Why? It's the British "thing" for people to think differently and have differing opinions!

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Someone has to...

Anyways, I always find it amusing when I hear of the latest spin from the BNP about how Johnny Foriegnher is stealing from the indeginous... latest spin is immigration is the reason for driving house prices up..

Immigration is part of the problem but not the problem but oh no.. this is how desperate the BNP are that they will capatlise on anything to make people think they have a just cause.

Next will be "Immigration has casued HPC" followed by "Immigration bankrupts UK"...

Get real. If the Chavs of this country would work instead of living of handouts then we would not need immigration and puppet organisations like the bNP.

In years to come, the BNP will be reduced to the pubs again as mainstream politicians will hijack this sentiment and use it to make yours and my life hell through all manners of control mechanisims.

One question has always flumoxed me, how would the BNP trade with others? I cannot see anyone wanting to trade with a misfit organisation of thugs and fraudsters who are so self consumed about being colour pride? I imagine a financial meltdown to be honest...

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Agreed, the biggest problem we face is too many I'm alright jack types who couldn't give a toss about there own kin, let alone their neighbours, villages or god forbid their country!

Socialists are the worse offenders as they want everyone to be equal, provided they can sit at the top of the pile being pious ;)

I don't this this NuLab.lot /liberalistas ARE socialist. I can remember the socialism of my youth and this is not the same. The socialists were for the "working chap" .This lot are for anybody BUT the workers!

They are a sort of brainwashed Marxist crew, who have been gulled into thinking that the NULab policies are altruistic...therefore lack of realism and naivety are other aspects of the acolytes.

Of course there is "Reaction Formation" to consider, too.

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Anyways, I always find it amusing when I hear of the latest spin from the BNP about how Johnny Foriegnher is stealing from the indeginous... latest spin is immigration is the reason for driving house prices up..

Are you saying that they did not fule the demand for rented property and hence the BTL markey and are you saying that they do not buy houses.

Immigration is part of the problem but not the problem but oh no.. this is how desperate the BNP are that they will capatlise on anything to make people think they have a just cause.

Austrlia will not let people in if locals need employment so lets link it all back to Hittler.

Next will be "Immigration has casued HPC" followed by "Immigration bankrupts UK"...

No they keep house prices down as the whites flee.

Get real. If the Chavs of this country would work instead of living of handouts then we would not need immigration and puppet organisations like the bNP.

Yes i agree 100% but this is not the case today and thats why i will continue to vote BNP and the Hittler, Facist, Jewish stuff just rolls off my back.

In years to come, the BNP will be reduced to the pubs again as mainstream politicians will hijack this sentiment and use it to make yours and my life hell through all manners of control mechanisims.

But today the numbers voting for BNP are increasing and if this makes the 3 main parties 'Hijack' the sentiment that thats all fine by me.

One question has always flumoxed me, how would the BNP trade with others? I cannot see anyone wanting to trade with a misfit organisation of thugs and fraudsters who are so self consumed about being colour pride? I imagine a financial meltdown to be honest...

Againt the what the British public wants and being an island we are being flooded by immigrants so just who are the fraudsters and if it's all about colour then why do the same principles apply to polish people.

You can try and make the BNP out as being thick drunks down the pub untill the cows come home but that does not make it true and shows you have lost the debate.

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is it BNP's public policy to state that all immigrants are stupid and are they supplying guns to the black gangs around the country

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I don't this this NuLab.lot /liberalistas ARE socialist. I can remember the socialism of my youth and this is not the same. The socialists were for the "working chap" .This lot are for anybody BUT the workers!

They are a sort of brainwashed Marxist crew, who have been gulled into thinking that the NULab policies are altruistic...therefore lack of realism and naivety are other aspects of the acolytes.

Of course there is "Reaction Formation" to consider, too.

Fair comment

I actually think the modern labour party is comprised of people who only joined up as they could see the tories on the wain. Scum like Prescott/Blair who stick noses in trough as soon as they arrive are appalling models for socialism which has very honourable honest roots.

The fact most of population seems to vote for them no matter what they do to damage the country makes me realise many of these same voters have their noses in related troughs too.

Labour-chav party perhaps?

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Are you saying that they did not fule the demand for rented property and hence the BTL markey and are you saying that they do not buy houses.

Like any rise in demand, a catalyst forms a number of factors and immigration is 1 - not all which is what the media and the BNP would like you to think. Some immigrants do but what about when I hear about lovely miss taylor and her 5 kids who cannot get a council house because the council are giving all the houses to the immigrants? surely immigrants are not buying all the houses AND claiming houses via a council?? honeslty??

Austrlia will not let people in if locals need employment
How about giving Australia back to its indignous? how would that sound?
No they keep house prices down as the whites flee.
Flee?? where?? Would love to see an actuall breakdown of this aswell... I wonder how many whites are actually fleeing the country... seriously..
Yes i agree 100% but this is not the case today and thats why i will continue to vote BNP and the Hittler, Facist, Jewish stuff just rolls off my back.

Like I said, someone has to and I have no probs with someone who has these beliefs but to me there are other issues as these only blind people into thinking everything wrong today is because of this.

But today the numbers voting for BNP are increasing and if this makes the 3 main parties 'Hijack' the sentiment that thats all fine by me.

Are they increasing? says who? some Yougov report who also tells you that house prices will increase by a further 40%??!! Do you really see the BNP becoming a major political force in the years to come? If a country can wage war for no real reason for the sake of oil, do you really think they would allow a lower class "organisation" to come into power?? I think not.

Againt the what the British public wants and being an island we are being flooded by immigrants so just who are the fraudsters and if it's all about colour then why do the same principles apply to polish people.

I thought they did to be honest.. but anyone who comes here with that understanding needs to be taught a very valuable lesson.. which I feel is work in progress by this very same government.

You can try and make the BNP out as being thick drunks down the pub untill the cows come home but that does not make it true and shows you have lost the debate.
But thats what they are - having an ex cambridge grad and a bankrupt businessman is probably the best thing they have to show they are now articulate or intelligent when their target audience is very much the former, they focus on the pubs to get their votes in go into the rural areas where unemployment is low, why not go into the cities and get the real voters?? what are they scared of?? defeat?? having small majorities is a pointless unless real gains are madeand if you deny that then I am sorry but you have lost the debate.
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is it BNP's public policy to state that all immigrants are stupid and are they supplying guns to the black gangs around the country

Are all immigrants stupid? bit of a sweeping statement is that much like the one I made about all BNP being the same... which you dismissed so should I dismiss this on the same pretence? The goverment will engage in anything it thinks best so if they want to sell drugs and guns to the black commuiity and this very same community is to thick to realise then you have a begining of an end.

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Anyways, I always find it amusing when I hear of the latest spin from the BNP about how Johnny Foriegnher is stealing from the indeginous... latest spin is immigration is the reason for driving house prices up..

Immigration is part of the problem but not the problem but oh no.. this is how desperate the BNP are that they will capatlise on anything to make people think they have a just cause.

Next will be "Immigration has casued HPC" followed by "Immigration bankrupts UK"...

Get real. If the Chavs of this country would work instead of living of handouts then we would not need immigration and puppet organisations like the bNP.

In years to come, the BNP will be reduced to the pubs again as mainstream politicians will hijack this sentiment and use it to make yours and my life hell through all manners of control mechanisims.

One question has always flumoxed me, how would the BNP trade with others? I cannot see anyone wanting to trade with a misfit organisation of thugs and fraudsters who are so self consumed about being colour pride? I imagine a financial meltdown to be honest...

I agree to a certain extent and don't think immigration should be scape-goated for things it is not responsible for, ie HPI which in my view it has probably only had a small affect on.

I find it amusing though when pro-immigration people think that there is no affect on jobs. There are f*cking huge problems being stored up in this country because of immigration. IT is a massive industry, British kids no longer go into it because Labour have allowed hundreds of thousands of Indians with degrees in IT to come in and work for peanuts. British kids see this, they see the lack/non existence of junior positions, the cr@p money, the competing with people from lower cost bases and they opt for something else. Some spastic in the goverment then wonders why nobody is doing science degrees anymore :lol:

Next thing is, there's a 'skills shortage' so let's let some more in.

I work in IT and have seen this all first hand. The immigrants really are stealing the jobs and more importantly, they are taking opportunities for decent paying work from our children. This is why so many Brits are fleeing the country, many people know how it always ends with a Labour goverment.

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OK i've never seen a post moved from the main forum withiout a redirect to off topic and for over an hour this post was not even here and thats after pressing refresh and do spare the crap about proxy servers caching pages as i work in IT myself.

What a witch hunt it's turning in to be with the BNP when you can not even point out the facts that immigrants are contributing towards house prices on a house price forum.

Mod you have been tested and found to be wanting.

[Moderator: Rubbish, topics are often moved without a redirect. This topic was moved directly from the main forum to off topic, if you didn't see it for an hour, you can't have been looking]

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I agree to a certain extent and don't think immigration should be scape-goated for things it is not responsible for, ie HPI which in my view it has probably only had a small affect on.

I find it amusing though when pro-immigration people think that there is no affect on jobs. There are f*cking huge problems being stored up in this country because of immigration. IT is a massive industry, British kids no longer go into it because Labour have allowed hundreds of thousands of Indians with degrees in IT to come in and work for peanuts. British kids see this, they see the lack/non existence of junior positions, the cr@p money, the competing with people from lower cost bases and they opt for something else. Some spastic in the goverment then wonders why nobody is doing science degrees anymore :lol:

Next thing is, there's a 'skills shortage' so let's let some more in.

I work in IT and have seen this all first hand. The immigrants really are stealing the jobs and more importantly, they are taking opportunities for decent paying work from our children. This is why so many Brits are fleeing the country, many people know how it always ends with a Labour goverment.

Hear hear - this is more like it without the usual mauling of the bNP claiming the usual "stop the press!! they are at it again" rubbish.

A relative of mine was also in IT earning £50k plus when the first batch of migrants came and effectivly made him redundant overnight. He spent nearly two years trying to find another job and when he did it was not even £20k... wheres the justice in that? spent this time getting clued up in oracle only to be told that there was no longer a shortage as all jobs had been snapped up by Indians... what...

This is partly down to corporate/government greed which has affected us all but can the blame be firmply placed on the foriegner who came here looking to work on the back of an invitation to work????? sorry its the government and corporate fatcats who cut wages in half and placed the burden onto the british taxpayer by removing highly skilled local workers for the overseases worker on half the money.

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What a witch hunt it's turning in to be with the BNP when you can not even point out the facts that immigrants are contributing towards house prices on a house price forum.

Yawn, denial is such a hard pill to swallow, why can we not discuss issues like immigration without the need for including puppets like the BNP?? just goes to show that the previous post has delivered more for the argument than what the BNP could without resorting to the usual rubbish.

Immigration s part of a bigger problem but not a problem soley contributing to increases in HP.. maybe we should wait till tomorrow to see what the Sun can come up with for blamig immigration on?

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Yawn, denial is such a hard pill to swallow, why can we not discuss issues like immigration without the need for including puppets like the BNP

But the BNP is the only party that is going to do anything to reduce the number of immigrants and if the Cons were to be listening to the british people then i would plug them instead.

Do you think my rants about GW-Bush should not also be subjected to the same scensorship as the BNP.

Hittler was very good at stoping people talking that did not tow the party line, he killed them and to think i'm called a facist cus i want the flood gates closed.

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Hittler was very good at stoping people talking that did not tow the party line, he killed them and to think i'm called a facist cus i want the flood gates closed.
Who called you a facist??????
But the BNP is the only party that is going to do anything to reduce the number of immigrants and if the Cons were to be listening to the british people then i would plug them instead.

What exactly are they doing? stamping thier feet and telling anyone who is not white to go home? come on! IF all did go home tomorrow, what would be the fallout? what would happen to trade and commerce left by the void of all johnnies getting up and shipping out? what would happen to house prices? what would happen to inflation? what would happen to finance? You make it sound like the policies employed by the BNP are tought out and through yet they are not. Would the chavs be lining upto work? will we be able to service the NHS? how long will it take to get locals trained up and ready whilst servicing the country at the same time? Your BNP talk of the impossible my friend and their solution is no more of the latter than the problem we are in today.

Do you think my rants about GW-Bush should not also be subjected to the same scensorship as the BNP.

I believe that on some forums this is the case! GWB will sell his own family to gain that extra dollar!

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Whether people like it or not, the BNP are the only party which has kept the problems of unlimited and uncontrolled immigration in the public's mind.

Totally agree - which to me the mainstream clowns are happy that they are doing thier own dirty work for them. Give it 5 years or so and NuLab policies will be a reflection of this but "controllable" and achievable as opposed to "ideals" of white supremacy.

As it is Labour has been in power for the last ten years and by their actions, don't care what the possible future consequences of unlimited and uncontrolled immigration could be.
I think its part of a bigger plan, create the problem, let it develop and then control by introducing measures that will affect all.
No I am not a complete supporter of the BNP, but I do agree with some of their ideas as I agree with some of those of the major parties as well.
Again I agree with this and I would not be suprised if the tories are trying to test the water with this balance with a new leader..

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You make it sound as though ALL 6 MILLION work, which is clearly not the case.

But thats exactly the case, illegal migration has become blurred with Immigration which is what the media and the BNP would like you to think that the two are the same, note how the word illegal has been dropped in favour of just immigtation by the media??

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What exactly are they doing? stamping thier feet and telling anyone who is not white to go home? come on! IF all did go home tomorrow, what would be the fallout? what would happen to trade and commerce left by the void of all johnnies getting up and shipping out? what would happen to house prices? what would happen to inflation? what would happen to finance? You make it sound like the policies employed by the BNP are tought out and through yet they are not. Would the chavs be lining upto work? will we be able to service the NHS? how long will it take to get locals trained up and ready whilst servicing the country at the same time? Your BNP talk of the impossible my friend and their solution is no more of the latter than the problem we are in today.

Quite well put i must say but we both know i could blow holes in this without trying and i can tell you this that letting more and more in to look after us in our old age is economics of the mad house and yet so many people beleive this as the BBC says so and can not understand how corporations, banks and goverment are profiting from this madness.

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But Nu Labour would never do that would they?

I mean, they'd have to become much more right than they ever were or what their traditional values reflected.

One could argue, and I do, that the BNP are now drawing poor working class people to their ranks because Nu Labour doesn't care about the semi skilled bricky or the posties, milkmen or administrator.

By NOT controlling immigration in any way shape or form they HAVE contributed directly to making the poor and working class person's life harder by driving down wages.

The BNP will soak up this diseffection IMHO.

I've even bet that come the next election the BNP will increase its vote over 4 times what it did in the last election. Not a great amount, but something which will show where we might be heading as a nation in the future.

It's not just the poor being affected bulltraderpt, see my earlier post. It's now across many industries and salary levels, although strangely, the traditional lefty industries don't appear to have been swamped.

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A relative of mine was also in IT earning £50k plus when the first batch of migrants came and effectivly made him redundant overnight. He spent nearly two years trying to find another job and when he did it was not even £20k... wheres the justice in that? spent this time getting clued up in oracle only to be told that there was no longer a shortage as all jobs had been snapped up by Indians... what...

The justice is in the fact that IT jobs should never have paid 50k in the first place.

Of course immigrants can afford to work for less because they don't need to buy the stuff we need like food and a place to live :rolleyes: What nonsense.

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The justice is in the fact that IT jobs should never have paid 50k in the first place.

Of course immigrants can afford to work for less because they don't need to buy the stuff we need like food and a place to live :rolleyes: What nonsense.

Why shouldn't they have been paid £50k? What are you a communist? Presumable nobody should earn more than, er, how much do you earn?

And immigrants don't have the same cost base? They share a house for a couple of years and go home. They don't have families and long term ties to this country. :rolleyes:

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Why shouldn't they have been paid £50k? What are you a communist? Presumable nobody should earn more than, er, how much do you earn?

And immigrants don't have the same cost base? They share a house for a couple of years and go home. They don't have families and long term ties to this country. :rolleyes:

The fact that they can't get more than 20k now tends to suggest they were overpaid. Don't forget that money doesn't come from nowhere. We funded those high wages via higher prices. The IT guys may be getting less but the rest of us are getting our IT stuff at an affordable price now. I am the opposite of a communist. I believe in the free market.

Exactly what percentage of immigrants do you think ever move back home? If they did, the problems you see would not be as you describe them.

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The fact that they can't get more than 20k now tends to suggest they were overpaid. Don't forget that money doesn't come from nowhere. We funded those high wages via higher prices. The IT guys may be getting less but the rest of us are getting our IT stuff at an affordable price now. I am the opposite of a communist. I believe in the free market.

Exactly what percentage of immigrants do you think ever move back home? If they did, the problems you see would not be as you describe them.

You don't seem to know much about the IT market. Plenty are getting over £100k still. The big problem is the fact that it is now barred to British newcomers. The junior levels are now open only to cheapo Indians.

I know for a fact that almost all Indians go home after a couple of years max. However, they are replaced by new ones in a constant stream of graduates. I fail to see how a free market such as this is fair in any way. If a Brit has a family he needs to buy a British house. If an Indian comes over here for a few years then he can save his money for when he gets home.

Following on from your logic we could import zillions of every profession and get everybody in the country down to £20k or less. I fail to see how this would benefit anybody except large corporations.

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