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Britain's 'out-of-control' teens the worst behaved in Europe, says damning new report

Drink, drugs, violence and under-age sex soars among the young

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Last updated at 23:43pm on 25th July 2007

British teenagers are the worst behaved in Europe, a report has revealed. They are more likely to binge-drink, take drugs, have sex at a young age and start fights.

The report, from a think-tank closely linked to Labour, says the collapse of family life is at least partly to blame.

It means youngsters follow the example set by their friends rather than guidance from their parents.

The damning verdict from the Institute for Public Policy Research was revealed as ministers prepared to publish a blueprint aimed at keeping teenagers out of trouble. It is expected to include more cash for youth groups and other activities.

But the institute says radical measures are needed. It says many disruptive youngsters will simply ignore out-of-school activities unless forced to attend.

Its study found that 44 per cent of British youngsters had been involved in a physical fight in the previous year - against just 28 per cent in Germany, 36 per cent in France and 38 per cent in Italy.

Some 38 per cent confessed to under-age sex, almost double the French figure. The same percentage had tried cannabis, more than five times the rate in Sweden.

Our teenagers are also bigger drinkers, with 27 per cent admitting to getting drunk regularly. In Italy, the figure is five per cent and in France it is just three per cent.

The researchers found that UK children rarely talk in any depth to their parents or sit down to family meals.

Just 64 per cent ate a main meal with their parents several times a week, against 93 per cent in Italy.

They also spend more time 'hanging out' with other teenagers, meaning they learn how to behave from each other and are not taught 'how to get on in life'.

The IPPR also says British adults are becoming afraid of trying to curb out-of-control youngsters. We are less likely than our European counterparts to confront teenagers about antisocial behaviour and vandalism

Politicians have been brainwashing voters for years with 'education - education – education’ lie. No doubt it will be Brown’s one of top priorities as well and good job it is a top priority, as I would hate to see the result if it wasn’t.

So not only do we have the most expensive housing in Europe but also the worst behaved prats. The future is bright!

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I blame the parents - probably MEWd to give them foreign holidays, iPods and designer gear ... elevating their sense of their own importance.

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i blame people for believing this cyclic rubbish.

the mods of the 80s, the dundee casuals and the frankie goes to hollywood haired, short armed t-shirt wearing tears for fears street fighters were much worse. fuelled by snakebite they could strip out any late night kebab shop in 3 minutes.

all i see from todays 'out of control teenage freaks' are nipping lager, talking about skunk and wearing tomestone sports clothing.

its hardly quatermass is it ?

i mean. im not about to employ the services of a 'paycop'.

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The IPPR also says British adults are becoming afraid of trying to curb out-of-control youngsters.

What support would they get if they tried. Social services? The Police? They'd be more likely to find themselves in trouble, or maybe even sued. It's just not worth it.

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When you have the pot smoking drop outs from the sixties in Government, the very people that decent people tried to put behind bars for their violent protests, and anti establishment views..........Are you suprised ?

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When you have the pot smoking drop outs from the sixties in Government, the very people that decent people tried to put behind bars for their violent protests, and anti establishment views..........Are you suprised ?

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And do you not have any embarrassing photo's from your youth?

I know I do...!

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And do you not have any embarrassing photo's from your youth?

I know I do...!

Certainly not, I came from a decent law abiding family that worked hard for a living and brought their six children up to respect their elders, take out only what they put in, and lead good wholesome honest lives.

Gordon Brown as the picture obviously shows was a first class pot smoking retard, if he had been at my school his dopy looks would have got him a good kicking, a debagging once a week, and we would also had removed his testicles as he didnt need them.

Maybe his new image having cost the English taxpayer many hundreds of thousands of pounds has covered up the truth, however the old photos of the very Camp, sexually confused Brown speaks volumes.

He fits in with Edinburgh Nightlife, and Glaswegian Rent Boy images, but he doesnt represent hard working English Families thats for sure.

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It means youngsters follow the example set by their friends rather than guidance from their parents.

That because either both parents have to work full time jobs, and sometimes an evening job to make ends meet or

they are too busy getting pissed up, taking drugs, fighting or ******ing themselves to care what their kids do.

collapse of family life is at least partly to blame.

A process started by Thatcher and continued by New Labour.

expected to include more cash for youth groups

Thats strange, the Northamptonshire County Council has just made huge cuts to local services, mainly youth groups.

not taught 'how to get on in life'.

And just how do you get on in life nowadays, im 41 and I still dont know, its not through working ive learnt that much.

More UK children live in poverty

UK is accused of failing children

Education 'fails poorer children'

Social mobility 'declining' in UK

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What support would they get if they tried. Social services? The Police? They'd be more likely to find themselves in trouble, or maybe even sued. It's just not worth it.

Too true I know someone who was charged with assualt and fined after stopping a teenager smashing his car up in front of him. After he was fined by the judge he told the court it was money well spent and he'd do it again if he found anyone else trying to vandalise his car.

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Gordon Brown as the picture obviously shows was a first class pot smoking retard, if he had been at my school his dopy looks would have got him a good kicking, a debagging once a week, and we would also had removed his testicles as he didnt need them.

He fits in with Edinburgh Nightlife, and Glaswegian Rent Boy images, but he doesnt represent hard working English Families thats for sure.

This is how you teach respect to the yoof?

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... if [Gordon Brown] had been at my school his dopy looks would have got him a good kicking, a debagging once a week, and we would also had removed his testicles as he didnt need them.

"Sensible policies for a happier Britain."

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Perhaps kids would behave a little better if they had something to aspire to, like a job that actually paid enough to live (like their parents had) and maybe even the opportunity to work their way to home ownership (like their parents had).

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It is getting worse & something has to be done about those mindless idiots. How would you feel if that gentleman was your grandad? Unbelievable.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/arti...in_page_id=1770

Heart attack pensioner dies after thugs block his ambulance

A pensioer died after yobs blocked the ambulance taking him to hospital.

They even threatened to attack paramedics trying to save 84-year-old Norman Bell, who had collapsed with a heart attack.

Witnesses said the youths refused to move a motorcycle parked in front of the ambulance, threw stones at the crew and hammered on the side of the vehicle, which was delayed for around five minutes.

The paramedics managed to resuscitate Mr Bell on the way to hospital, but he never regained consciousness and died within hours.

Yesterday his devastated family hit out at the mindless behaviour of the youths and said they would never know if grandfather Mr Bell might still be alive had the ambulance not been delayed.

The retired engineer, from Newton-le-Willows, Merseyside, was active for his age and played bowls three times a week. He was taking part in an away match in Ashtonin-Makerfield, near Wigan.

Fellow players dialled 999 and gave him mouth-to-mouth resuscitation while they waited for an ambulance. But as it was leaving, one youth blocked the single carriageway track with a motorbike. When the paramedics asked him to move it, he and two friends threatened to attack them.

Mr Bell's friends and teammates were also taunted and abused as they tried to follow by car. Witnesses said the youths appeared to be either drunk or on drugs.

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however the old photos of the very Camp, sexually confused Brown speaks volumes.

That image was probably overwhelmingly masculine in the 60s and 70s. We'll probably say the same about people like David Beckham in 20 years time.

He fits in with Edinburgh Nightlife, and Glaswegian Rent Boy images, but he doesnt represent hard working English Families thats for sure.

He doesn't represent hard working Scottish or Welsh families either, apart from a few in Fife that were dumb enough to vote for him.

"Glaswegian Rent Boy"? Please explain what in the name of god you're talking about.

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Either the economy collapses or society does. And Gordon Brown is going to do all he can to sell out our long term future for his short term political career. He will try and maintain the bubble for as long as possible.

If the majority of the population are mortgaged up to their eye balls and are therefore extremely precious about their few assets, then ploughing funding into the police force will help win more votes when lawlessness amongst the young increases.

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... if [Gordon Brown] had been at my school his dopy looks would have got him a good kicking, a debagging once a week, and we would also had removed his testicles as he didnt need them.

'...and education could go hang as long as a boy could hit a six, sing the school song very loud and take a hot crumpet from behind without blubbing.'

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'...and education could go hang as long as a boy could hit a six, sing the school song very loud and take a hot crumpet from behind without blubbing.'

Actually, if GB had been at my school, he would have been the worst bully in the place. People who look that ridiculous have to be as tough as nails, its the only way they survive!!!

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Some kids have no respect for other people's property or even other people.

Why are they allowed to roam the streets? Because the parents have lacked the skills to bring them up in an ordered and controlled way so the can't control the now teenage feral brood.

ASB and ASBOs just water down the reality of the fact that these kids cause sodding misery to people.

What needs to happen is to get parents back in control as parents and for schools to be able to administer punishment.

Without any proper boundarys - "don't do that or we'll be forced to send you on a safari or give you an ipod" then kids don't stand a chance if they have parents who lack the inteligence and skills to discipline and instill good manners.

Yes nice kids can turn bad - but they need pulling back into line - with real punishments like being grounded and not having the threat of kids ringing childline because you're trying to look after them.

Kids should be treated as kids.

Parents should be expected to be parents and not best friends or even absent by work/pub/alcohol/drugs.

I think we need to seriously stop allowing feral families to breed on benefit. There are some areas with three generations of dolites. WHY????

We need to ensure that families and kids understand what happens if you transgress acceptable behaviour. We need boot camps and army style training. Conscription for those who fail to find a job or universtity by 19 and community service for those who break rules the first time, hard labour the second time and third time removal of all privaleges like going out at night, drinking, smoking, driving.

Oh but you can't do that cos it'd be mean and the kids might think they'd done something wrong.

Did you see the report where it said you can't say kids have done badly/failed? FFS namby pambying doesn't work.

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Have to agree with ths posters who say it´s the break up of the family that is at fault. People are often forced to work and live miles away from their roots and extended family hence no bonds or shared beliefs.

In the small town in Spain where I´m currently living, the sense of family is still very important, though it´s sad to see it starting to follow US-UK trends. At the moment, most families seem to have both sets of grandparents and aunts and uncles living near by, giving a sense of community. Of course there are exceptions, but for the most part, if any of the kids step out of line, they will be seen or their family will get to know about it very quickly via the community grapevine, and punishment will follow accordingly.

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Have to agree with ths posters who say it´s the break up of the family that is at fault. People are often forced to work and live miles away from their roots and extended family hence no bonds or shared beliefs.

In the small town in Spain where I´m currently living, the sense of family is still very important, though it´s sad to see it starting to follow US-UK trends. At the moment, most families seem to have both sets of grandparents and aunts and uncles living near by, giving a sense of community. Of course there are exceptions, but for the most part, if any of the kids step out of line, they will be seen or their family will get to know about it very quickly via the community grapevine, and punishment will follow accordingly.

Education policy must take some of the flak.

Let's look at teachers. These guys are well qualified, and are expected to earn, relative to a similar job in industry / finance, what amounts to peanuts.

Having escaped from university relatively recently, teaching is something I never considered. Based primarily on its reward structure, the term 'teacher' has become synonymous with 'lack of ambition'. For a reasonably well-qualified graduate, introducing oneself as a teacher leads to one being considered either one of those rare, altruistic types who wants to put something back into society, or more commonly, someone with something wrong with them.

Having worked previously in a school, at primary level, I can testify that many teachers are simply incompetent, particularly in areas of maths and science. Kids ask a question, one of those simple sounding questions like 'how does heat work?' or 'why does glue stick things together?' - the teacher clearly has no clue, and more often than not, simply ignores or brushes aside the question.

We shouldn't kid ourselves - there are people in our society who can answer such questions, and inspire learning at the age where it's really quite necessary. But expecting them to take a hit to their quality of life by paying them next to nothing, relative to what they could easily earn elsewhere, will ensure that such people are, broadly, unavailable, and so less capable people must inevitably take their place.

Average teacher's pay (DFES stats) for someone aged between 25-29 is £24,240. For 55 and over, it's £34,175. This is insane. For any science or maths graduate, in particular, there is simply no parity with other sectors. Even if you 'adjust' for big holidays and call them unpaid leave, annual average salary is still low, considering the long-term importance of the job.

It's like any other field of work: pay peanuts, and you get monkeys. The only difference is that performance is harder to measure, and the effects of poor educational policy show up 20 - 30 years later in the form of major societal breakdown, and a serious lack of skills in the economy, particularly in the 'high value' sectors.

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I blame the parents. They shouldn't be out at all hours working to keep a roof over their heads.

What about the future generation who won't even be able to recognise their parents due to being put in nurseries at a young age.

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We have the most generous benefits in the EU to single mums, the most single mums in the EU and the worst behaved teens in the EU.

There is of course no connection between these things.

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"Sensible policies for a happier Britain."

Ah yes, a great episode:

Edmund: Well, yes, sir, there is one man who might be the ace up our sleeve. A rather crusty, loudmouthed ace named Gordon Brown.

Prince George: Never heard of him.

Edmund: That's hardly surprising, sir. Brown has the worst attendance record of any member of Parliament. On the one occasion he did enter the House of Commons, he passed water in the Great Hall, and then passed out in the Speaker's Chair. But if we can get him to support us, then we are safe.

Prince George: Well, what's he like?

Edmund: Well, according to `Who's Who', his interests include flogging servants, shooting poor people, and the extension of slavery to anyone who hasn't got a knighthood.

Prince George: Excellent! Sensible policies for a happier Britain!

:lol:

Full transcript available here: http://blackadder.powertie.org/transcripts/3/1/

Edited by SHERWICK

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