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July 14th, 2007
The boost continues - Labour lead up to 7 points
Posted by Anthony Wells in Voting Intention, ICM
An ICM poll for the Sunday Telegraph has voting intentions (with changes from the last ICM poll) of CON 33% (-2), LAB 40% (+3), LDEM 19% (+2). Far from the slight drop in the most recent ICM poll representing the end of Gordon Brown’s bounce, it has clearly continued to gather strength in the last week. The 7 point lead for Labour is the largest in an ICM poll since September 2005 and would presumably
result in an increased majority
if repeated at a general election. On the subject of which, the newspaper coverage of the polls is predictably in the context of whether a snap autumn election is now on the cards

The sheeple still believe in miracles. Or, more likely, there is no opposition until GC2 has had an opportunity to cause some discomfort among the electorate.

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There always was going to be a Brown bounce - these sorts of poll results have happened for every newly-arrived PM, pretty much since opinion polling began.

The significant thing will be what those polls are saying by the end of the summer.

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There always was going to be a Brown bounce - these sorts of poll results have happened for every newly-arrived PM, pretty much since opinion polling began.

The significant thing will be what those polls are saying by the end of the summer.

Cameroooon trying to suggest he is the one to continue Blair's reforms was the worse possible thing for him to say. All Brown has to do is not be Blair, which so far he is doing a rather good job of. The Tories have spent so long trying to look tough by automatically supporting anything Bush does, and backing any kind of right wing reformes Blair came up with, they now look complete idiots.

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Yes, the country has never had it so good, what with Ca-moron and grinning bufoon Gordon Browm to choose from. I can barely contain my excitement at such a terrific and representative choice of leaders.

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Oh come on. Faults these people may make, but buffoons they are not.

Brown is probably one of the brightest guys on the political scene for many a long year. People have been predicting he would make an immediate mess of things but are instead starting to realise he's no fool. Just look at how quickly he has side-stepped the tories. Cameron is a deeply worried man.

Let me put it another way - if you were sat across from Brown having a coffee and a discussion about anything remotely "strategic", I presume having called him a buffoon that you would run rings around him on any given topic then?

And your recommendation of leader of our erstwhile country is...?

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doesn't really matter who get's in - the central banks are controlling the agenda

ffs the whole countries direction is based on fear - the fear of crime, the fear of terrorism

do they shut the borders to fight the 'war on terror'? do they lock up criminals?

no, they use it to build bigger and better ways to 'measure' and control us (ccftv, id cards, rfid) - whilst opening up the borders and refusing to build more prisons

this won't change whoever get's in - 'democracy' is just an ever reducing set of limited 'freedoms' under, effectively, single central bank control

Edited by dnd

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exactly

and if we were in power we would probably be doing the same thing

the financial systems are so pervasive now they have a longevity of their own

custodians may change but the system wont

(unless countries got someone brave enough like Ron Paul into power)

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July 14th, 2007
The boost continues - Labour lead up to 7 points
Posted by Anthony Wells in Voting Intention, ICM
An ICM poll for the Sunday Telegraph has voting intentions (with changes from the last ICM poll) of CON 33% (-2), LAB 40% (+3), LDEM 19% (+2). Far from the slight drop in the most recent ICM poll representing the end of Gordon Brown’s bounce, it has clearly continued to gather strength in the last week. The 7 point lead for Labour is the largest in an ICM poll since September 2005 and would presumably
result in an increased majority
if repeated at a general election. On the subject of which, the newspaper coverage of the polls is predictably in the context of whether a snap autumn election is now on the cards

The sheeple still believe in miracles. Or, more likely, there is no opposition until GC2 has had an opportunity to cause some discomfort among the electorate.

...where was the poll taken ...Kirkcaldy..?.....if not ...I fear for the people of this country....until the West Lothian question is resolved he is nearer to a Dictatorship than to a Democracy......voters show us your grit and spleen...and do not lie down to this tyrant.. :o:o:o !

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Guest Bart of Darkness
What with the leadership of the tories et al, it is like shooting fish in a barrel.

All too true. GB is still in the early days of his honeymoon period as well, so "Hug a Hoodie" is even more irrelevant than normal.

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Precisley what is happening in the US, the central banks dictate the housing market, just as they easily ramped HPI it they are now calling the shots on all the credit defaults, Bush has no control on this whatsoever.

The one good thing about Gordon being in power is the longer he stays the more likely the 'hard of thinking' will begin to ralise that this is the man who's false economic policy has got us into this ridiculous mess in the first place. The only trouble with that is it's all too late for GB ltd, social and immigration pressues will at some point in the future boil over, not a pretty picture but then if you can't beat them join them, emmigrate yourself :)

doesn't really matter who get's in - the central banks are controlling the agenda

ffs the whole countries direction is based on fear - the fear of crime, the fear of terrorism

do they shut the borders to fight the 'war on terror'? do they lock up criminals?

no, they use it to build bigger and better ways to 'measure' and control us (ccftv, id cards, rfid) - whilst opening up the borders and refusing to build more prisons

this won't change whoever get's in - 'democracy' is just an ever reducing set of limited 'freedoms' under, effectively, single central bank control

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GB is in a strong position. Aside from the fact he has given people a never ending cash machine from their homes, he probably has the right image compared to Cameron. I would think the majority of the british public feel more comfortable with the cynical grizzled scot than that wet fart silver spoon fed Cameron. If the tories wanna get serious they should ditch Cameron and get someone who the public think has some balls. Thatcher is still alive.

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml...5/nbrown215.xml

Tory by-election candidate is Labour donor
By Melissa Kite, Deputy Political Editor, Sunday Telegraph
Last Updated: 1:18am BST 15/07/2007
The Tory candidate in a key by-election is a Labour donor who posed just weeks ago for photographs at a fundraiser with Tony Blair, it can be revealed.
Tony Lit appears to have taken Ealing Southall by storm
Tony Lit, 34, the wealthy head of an Asian radio station, became a member of the Conservative Party only days before he was unveiled as their surprise choice to fight the vacant seat of Ealing Southall later this week.

This is the Tory party. The candidate looks like a greasy EA IMO.

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Any chance of William Hague making a comeback? He used to smash Blair all over the ground at PMQs and came up with some jokes worthy of the best stand-ups.

Okay, his overall media celebtrity dumbed-down image was poor but why haven't the tories, faced with a desperately unpopular government, voted in by just 22% of the electorate been really socking it to them?

While people apparently didn't much care for yah-boo politics the opposition SHOULD shoot down even minor weaknesses in government policy as robustly and aggressively as possible. That's what we're paying them for.

Edited by CrashedOutAndBurned

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"In fifteen months in the ranks I have never heard politics discussed, but now the Army Bureau of Current Affairs teaches them that something is wrong and that change is needed. They'll vote Labour, though they couldn't give you the names of three Labour politicians." - Army officer in the desert, shortly after the Battle of El Alamein, quoted in James Lansdale Hodson,
The Sea and the Land
(London, Victor Gollancz, 1945), p. 349.

Brown has been in office for a fortnight. He has just made a whole load of high-profile policy statements, all of which have received extensive coverage. On the same principle as the quote above, I'd be willing to bet that a significant proportion of the 1,003 people interviewed for this poll couldn't give you the names of the two other party leaders. And when the next election comes, between 300 and 600 of those people will not bother to vote at all. Polls taken in such circumstances have proven notoriously unreliable in the past. An average of poll results taken over a period of several years has proven a far more accurate indication of public opinion. If we see similar poll results to this one appearing consistently over the next 2-3 months, then Cameron has got something serious to worry about.

Edited by The Ayatollah Bugheri

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Perhaps Brown isn't as stupid / incompetent as I thought. Interesting strategy he seems to have been following:

1. Deliberately stoke HPI to give impression of economic success and stability.

2. Claim ' credit' for 'success' of economy whilst the sheeple are convinced that they are getting wealthier and wealthier just sitting on their arses.

3. As brown stuff hits the fan and the sheeple finally wake up to the fact that they've been had and there's a very real problem then ....

4. Thrust yourself forward as the hero promising a solution to the very problem that you created in the first place then ....

5. Grateful sheeple vote you back in. ..... of course

6. Ecomomy collapses could be a bit of a problem ..... I suppose he'll blame it all on global forces i.e oil.

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Pay as litle tax as possible, stick to private education, healthcare, pension, legal representation, childcare, transport. Declare yourself non domicle if possible and employ private security with private equity money.

Who would care if Labour is in "power" :lol:

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Guest Farticus

I lost all (remaining) faith in Cameron when he spent a week living with a muslim family as a PR stunt

What a complete tit!

Gordy & Co must have been laughing over their bolly that night

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