Jump to content
House Price Crash Forum
Sign in to follow this  
dude wheres my house

Private Street Guards For The Well Off

Recommended Posts

it not surprising - labour have screwed the justice system up badly

we need the tories back in on this one

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
It will be very frightening for the poor dears when they have to walk around an area without private security!

If we look around other parts of the world we have `gated communities` where the residents are safely ensconced behind a steel barrier. This is nothing new. Once the dodgy East Europeans are taken out of the picture, I envisage whole parts of London being converted to `snob sectors` with machines that will scan your wallet: if you haven`t got enough money in your account then you won`t be let in.

Judge Dredd anyone?? :ph34r:

Sure glad I don`t live in London :P

Edited by southsea13

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I actually live in st. johns wood, and I can confirm this. They are on every well-off street in the area. It is insane. These guys actually have the cheek to ask you what your doing if you are staggering home drunk, or if you are having a row with the other half. They even say hello to you if your walking past, like they are pillars of the community or something. They're not. They're Polish, and 'hello' is usually the only english they speak.

the thing about all this is err... hello? MANDATE?!?!?!

I've had arguments with them before. They've no right to do anything other than watch and deter.

Edited by buylowsellhigh!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
I actually live in st. johns wood, and I can confirm this. They are on every well-off street in the area. It is insane. These guys actually have the cheek to ask you what your doing if you are staggering home drunk, or if you are having a row with the other half. They even say hello to you if your walking past, like they are pillars of the community or something. They're not. They're Polish, and 'hello' is usually the only english they speak.

the thing about all this is err... hello? MANDATE?!?!?!

I've had arguments with them before. They've no right to do anything other than watch and deter.

If it`s private security then KICK OUT the Commies and give the jobs to UK ex-servicemen and women. Better still - how about more police?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
This is the privatisation of society and can be expected in any cuntery that has a hugely divergent gap between rich and poor.

Yes its like New Providence Wharf near me. They employ concierges or private security.

I wanted to take a walk down by the river thames and take some pictures, and was told to clear off as the "residents wouldn't like." Mind Canary Wharf is another private property/public place, though suprisingly bank office cleaners were having a demo last week. I didn't think such things were allowed in the UK now!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Better still - how about more police?

Can't afford that, we have spent all our dosh on an ill-fated war with Iraq and on various different levels of private consultant to tell us how to spend the remainder of the money. Ooops!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

this does sound awfully like the way the police started out... shame they have deteriorated to being a revenue generator/enforcer for the state!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
This is the privatisation of society and can be expected in any cuntery that has a hugely divergent gap between rich and poor.

it sometimes feel like we are just living in an open prison ie

- the rich people can afford the heavies to protect their 'turf'

- the extreme 'criminals' are put in solitary for short time (ie real 'prison') before being released back into the main population

- the 'guards' ie police turn a blind eye

:lol:

Edited by dnd

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
the 'guards' ie police turn a blind eye

:lol:

Agreed on that one. They do nothing and then if you `take the law into your own hands` you end up getting done for it! The best way to go is Silent Death by Uncle Fester (NBC Specialist)! :ph34r::lol::P:unsure:

Edited by southsea13

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

nothing new:

http://burningourmoney.blogspot.com/2006/0...an-streets.html

http://burningourmoney.blogspot.com/2006/1...d-disorder.html

The mean streets of Primrose Hill- home to bankers, media types, and David Milliband- are not deemed to need their full complement of police, so they've been redeployed elsewhere. The rest are doing paperwork, or skulking around well out of harms way. But that's OK, because Blair's Met and the People's Republic reckon the crime problem is all in the mind anyway:

"Despite recorded crime falling in Camden and the UK in general, research shows that a third of people believe crime has risen "a lot".

Clearly people like my friend don't need policing, they need counselling. (The real facts are summarised here- Primrose Hill has the fifth highest overall ward crime figures in London).

Anyway, this friend recently intervened in yet another attempted vehicle theft in his road. The young thug involved is notorious locally, and reponded by threatening to burn down my friend's house, with him in it. And since then, he's attempted to assault him while out walking. The police response (after four unanswered phone calls and only because my friend had spotted a rare community policeman hunkered down outside a kebab shop) was:

"I see Sir. Well, there's nothing we can do. But you should get all this down in writing to us, because if... er... anyone gets hurt... we've got a record."

Fantastic.

For most people of course, the only option from there is to purchase a baseball bat and a Ninja sword.

But Primrose Hill is different: it's rich. So the residents have another option: private security patrols.

It began after one couple "came home after an evening out to be ambushed by three masked men armed with machetes and clubs. They were forced into their house in Lower Merton Rise with their two children and marched from room to room at knifepoint. They were ordered to hand over money and valuables, an experience which left the family traumatised."

Hardly surprising then that residents realised they could no longer rely on the police to protect them. Instead they clubbed together to pay for a private security firm to patrol the road.

For £1,000 pa each, they get regular visible patrols, and a "meet and greet" service if they come home late. "The guards carry no weapons and have no police-style powers, but can carry out citizens' arrests. A spokesman said: "We have caught car thieves breaking into a vehicle and caused what we know were burglars to leave the area. If criminals see us, hopefully they will move on."

And business is booming. Not only have other roads in Primrose Hill taken up the idea, but from South Kensington to Hampstead Garden Suburb there are now hundreds of similar schemes across London alone.

The police are completely cool with it. A Yard spokesman said: "We recognise the role security firms have to play in reassuring sections of the community." Clearly they see the ex-Israeli, South African, Russian, Ukrainian and British soldiers who man the patrols primarily as outreach counsellors, which saves them the bother.

Less relaxed are other local residents who are not subscribers. That's mainly because they're feeling the brunt of machete gangs displaced from the patrolled roads, although some fret about more Millibandesque issues- the editor of Wallpaper* ("the online resource for international design interiors and lifestyle"), recently moved up to Primrose Hill from downmarket Dalston, and has been driven to some serious handwringing:

"There has been much talk of how to prevent crime in my bijou corner of north London. Half of the residents are keen on an improved neighbourhood watch scheme and, Cameron-like, on cuddling the hoodies who have been causing the problem. The other half want to hire a private security firm to patrol the streets and keep the riff-raff away.

The latter proposal hovers dangerously close to class apartheid: why should the residents of Camden's less photogenic corners be made to feel unwelcome by Primrose Hill residents just because they can't afford to live there?"

Clearly the machete boys haven't visited him yet.

Primrose Hill is very close to Camden, and walking along the Regent's Canal you'll find in one direction multi-tens-of-million pound mansions, and in the other, hard drug selling all along the towpath, plus gangs from some far-flung part of Africa none speaking a word of English. Camden itself is a complete cesspit (yet massively pricey due to the nightlife/trendy bars) dangerous to walk through.

It's unsurprising, having paid millions to live in Primrose Hill, you would want to some security to protect you from the vast unquashable crime cesspit to your East.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Out in the shires where I live many new housing developments are 'gated communities'.

I'm kind of hoping when the stuff hits the fan, and the gangs are roaming the streets, they concentrate on looting the 'gated communities' first.

What a country. Nuthouse.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
If we look around other parts of the world we have `gated communities` where the residents are safely ensconced behind a steel barrier.

I saw a documentary last year on a gated community in the USA. Judging by the sort of people who inhabit them, I would happy to see more of them spring up, so I could put a padlock and chain on the gate and then throw away the key ;)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Sooooooooo all this crime and not enough police?

We've had ASBOs which allow council officials to deal with huge social problems,

We've got gated alleys round here which stop burglarys - AND push kids out onto the streets causing youth nusiance.

Leading to dispersal orders to move on groups of kids.

We've got dozens of private community support officers wearing different colour uniforms

We've got traffic wardens with head cams which record you plus they deal with litter, dog mess etc etc

We've got CCTV that can speak to you popping up all over the place.

What's wrong?

This wonderful country that people travel thousands of miles to get to live in peace and safety is slowly disolving into a bucket of p*ss.

We've nearly got RFID monitoring of cars across major cities - how long before you become a number on a rfid tag?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
I saw a documentary last year on a gated community in the USA. Judging by the sort of people who inhabit them, I would happy to see more of them spring up, so I could put a padlock and chain on the gate and then throw away the key ;)

Heh heh :) Ages ago Michael Moore's TV Nation did a thing on gated communities. On venturing into such an enclosure he found himself stopped and questioned by private security "officers". When stopping and questioning anyone who left their gated community and came into our, larger community they failed to see the irony :)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest grumpy-old-man
Sooooooooo all this crime and not enough police?

We've had ASBOs which allow council officials to deal with huge social problems,

We've got gated alleys round here which stop burglarys - AND push kids out onto the streets causing youth nusiance.

Leading to dispersal orders to move on groups of kids.

We've got dozens of private community support officers wearing different colour uniforms

We've got traffic wardens with head cams which record you plus they deal with litter, dog mess etc etc

We've got CCTV that can speak to you popping up all over the place.

What's wrong?

This wonderful country that people travel thousands of miles to get to live in peace and safety is slowly disolving into a bucket of p*ss.

We've nearly got RFID monitoring of cars across major cities - how long before you become a number on a rfid tag?

not long to go now, they just need identity cards implementing so we can all get our number, then nearly everythings in place.

just think, you are now just a number on a computer that can be tracked, monitored & edited. :ph34r:

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
not long to go now, they just need identity cards implementing so we can all get our number, then nearly everythings in place.

just think, you are now just a number on a computer that can be tracked, monitored & edited. :ph34r:

NO2ID!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/c...icle1850921.ece

I guess all us poor folks can get robbed instead :unsure:

got it in one.

the whole point of the feudal system is those that are feuding are kept distracted and/or fearful.

this leaves the ones who can pay for protection with carte blanche to do what they like.

...it's almost mafia!!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
Sign in to follow this  

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

  • 354 The Prime Minister stated that there were three Brexit options available to the UK:

    1. 1. Which of the Prime Minister's options would you choose?


      • Leave with the negotiated deal
      • Remain
      • Leave with no deal



×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue.