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British families should be given council housing ahead of immigrants, a Labour minister has claimed.

Margaret Hodge risked a race row by warning that it was "unfair" when new arrivals jumped to the top of the queue - leaving no homes for families in Britain for generations.

She said a points system giving weight to length of residence, citizenship and National Insurance contributions would be a better way of allocating homes.

Mrs Hodge, who represents Barking in East London, a hive of British National Party activity, said this would help tackle alarm in the "poorest white communities" who felt angry and neglected by the Government.

Her comments were described as "hypocritical" as it was pointed out that Labour had presided over a massive rise in immigration at the same time as its "catastrophic" failure to build enough affordable homes.

Official figures show soaring immigration has pushed up the British population by nearly one and half million in a decade - although even these statistics have been criticised as unreliable.

Industry Minister Mrs Hodge demanded an urgent shake-up of the council and social housing system which prioritises the needs of migrant families.

She said: "A recently-arrived family with four or five children living in a damp and overcrowded privatelyrented flat with the children suffering from asthma will usually get priority over a family with less housing need who have lived in the area for three generations and are stuck at home with the grandparents.

"We should look at policies where the legitimate sense of entitlement felt by the indigenous family overrides the legitimate need demonstrated by the new migrants.

"A lot of black and Asian British people feel as strongly as some of my white families do - that there is an essential unfairness in the system.

"They feel they've grown up in the borough, they're entitled to a home, and that sense of entitlement is often overridden by a real need of new immigrant families who come in, perhaps locked into private accommodation, poor accommodation, overcrowded."

Hundreds of voters in Barking, one of Britain's most deprived communities, had turned to the BNP amid concerns over housing allocation, she said.

Mrs Hodge is the daughter of Jewish parents who fled Nazi Germany for Egypt before arriving in England in 1949, when she was five.

Last year she caused controversy by claiming that Labour's failure to deal with immigration and the lack of affordable housing had prompted traditional working-class white voters to desert to the BNP.

She won cautious support from Labour chairman and deputy leadership candidate Hazel Blears, who said: "You have got to look at allocations policies to show that they are fair. People in this country want to know the system actually works for them."

Liberal Democrat frontbencher Simon Hughes said: "The worst cause of racial strife and antagonism is when new social property is built and when people who appear to have no link with the community move into it, when other people who may be desperately needing to move, can't get a move."

But Keith Vaz, chairman of the Labour Party's Ethnic Minority Taskforce, said: "Many people will find what Margaret Hodge has said offensive. As a minister in a Government committed to equality she has the capacity to deal with any unfairness - if indeed it exists."

Damian Green, the Conservative immigration spokesman, said: "Margaret Hodge is admitting the long-term failure of this Government to control immigration.

"This is why Conservatives are calling for an explicit annual limit on the numbers coming here from outside the EU so that we can avoid exactly the sort of problems she is talking about."

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British families should be given council housing ahead of immigrants, a Labour minister has claimed.

Margaret Hodge risked a race row by warning that it was "unfair" when new arrivals jumped to the top of the queue - leaving no homes for families in Britain for generations.

She said a points system giving weight to length of residence, citizenship and National Insurance contributions would be a better way of allocating homes.

Mrs Hodge, who represents Barking in East London, a hive of British National Party activity, said this would help tackle alarm in the "poorest white communities" who felt angry and neglected by the Government.

Her comments were described as "hypocritical" as it was pointed out that Labour had presided over a massive rise in immigration at the same time as its "catastrophic" failure to build enough affordable homes.

Official figures show soaring immigration has pushed up the British population by nearly one and half million in a decade - although even these statistics have been criticised as unreliable.

Industry Minister Mrs Hodge demanded an urgent shake-up of the council and social housing system which prioritises the needs of migrant families.

She said: "A recently-arrived family with four or five children living in a damp and overcrowded privatelyrented flat with the children suffering from asthma will usually get priority over a family with less housing need who have lived in the area for three generations and are stuck at home with the grandparents.

"We should look at policies where the legitimate sense of entitlement felt by the indigenous family overrides the legitimate need demonstrated by the new migrants.

"A lot of black and Asian British people feel as strongly as some of my white families do - that there is an essential unfairness in the system.

"They feel they've grown up in the borough, they're entitled to a home, and that sense of entitlement is often overridden by a real need of new immigrant families who come in, perhaps locked into private accommodation, poor accommodation, overcrowded."

Hundreds of voters in Barking, one of Britain's most deprived communities, had turned to the BNP amid concerns over housing allocation, she said.

Mrs Hodge is the daughter of Jewish parents who fled Nazi Germany for Egypt before arriving in England in 1949, when she was five.

Last year she caused controversy by claiming that Labour's failure to deal with immigration and the lack of affordable housing had prompted traditional working-class white voters to desert to the BNP.

She won cautious support from Labour chairman and deputy leadership candidate Hazel Blears, who said: "You have got to look at allocations policies to show that they are fair. People in this country want to know the system actually works for them."

Liberal Democrat frontbencher Simon Hughes said: "The worst cause of racial strife and antagonism is when new social property is built and when people who appear to have no link with the community move into it, when other people who may be desperately needing to move, can't get a move."

But Keith Vaz, chairman of the Labour Party's Ethnic Minority Taskforce, said: "Many people will find what Margaret Hodge has said offensive. As a minister in a Government committed to equality she has the capacity to deal with any unfairness - if indeed it exists."

Damian Green, the Conservative immigration spokesman, said: "Margaret Hodge is admitting the long-term failure of this Government to control immigration.

"This is why Conservatives are calling for an explicit annual limit on the numbers coming here from outside the EU so that we can avoid exactly the sort of problems she is talking about."

Could this mark the end of Blair's PC era? France has just elected a nationalist so we may be seeing a trend. IMO Brown should do the decent thing and call a GE and let the country decide if they think Labour's policies of the past 10 years or so have been good for the long term health of this country. The points to be decided:

1. House rampant inflation in house prices been a good thing for British families and young people starting out in life?

2. Has the dismantling of British industry and manufacturing in favour of service industry growth been a good thing or is the current trend toward offshoring and moving banks and insurance companies overseas the beginning of a trend that will destroy the services sector in addition to manufacturing.

3. Has the revaluation of sterling and the consequential loss of jobs and exports markets been a wise policy in the medium to long term?

4. Has Brown's accommodative IR policy contributed to inflation in all sectors and would it be better to create an independent bank, in the real sense of "independent."

5. Has the permissive immigration policy contributed to the quality of life and the long term health of the economy for the nation?

6. Are you paying more tax now than when Labour first came to power?

7. Has the availability of low-cost higher education deteriorated under labour?

8. Has the decline in the NHS affected the country negatively? And is it a good thing that essential workers such as nurses etc. are priced out of living in many areas around the country that still require essential services?

For balance, NuLabour have made some contributions to the overall health of the country:

1. The weather has improved in the last decade.

2. Er...........................

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Listening to Gordon on the News yesteday, they have made other achievments of which both Tony and Gordon are proud and even with the benefit of hindsight maintain it was the right thing to do.

That is, Killing 56,000 women and children in Iraq.

I am suprised that anyone would allow the son of the Devil to hold their children for photoshoots!!!!!.

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Listening to Gordon on the News yesteday, they have made other achievments of which both Tony and Gordon are proud and even with the benefit of hindsight maintain it was the right thing to do.

That is, Killing 56,000 women and children in Iraq.

I am suprised that anyone would allow the son of the Devil to hold their children for photoshoots!!!!!.

To be fair to Gordon and Tone though, the killing seems to be the work of the Shias and others wrestling to establish their own brand of Theocracy. The bombs being placed in public places have certainly killed a few thousand this year. Better if the militants could have targeted troops rather than children playing in the streets and ordinary people shopping?

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Haha! Nothing like a little BNP action to put the wind up New Labour. :lol:

So now she's on side, now she's making the case for native Brits vs the immigrant. Before she was as PC, multi-culti, happy-clappy as you like. ;)

Margaret Hodge is an immigrant by the way. She was born in Egypt. (In the BNP we know these things.)

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Margaret Hodge is an immigrant by the way. She was born in Egypt. (In the BNP we know these things.)

When does someone stop being an immigrant and become accepted as a rightful member of our society to the BNP?

After some period of time?

If they prove that they are actually a better citizen than many of the local ones?

Or does skin colour mean that acceptance will never be forthcoming?

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I think an immigrant becomes accepted when the generation that doesnt know where they came from exist.

Immigrants that harp on about their homeland, how much better it is, their religion is superior, their laws are better, will always be labelled an immigrant.

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When does someone stop being an immigrant and become accepted as a rightful member of our society to the BNP?

After some period of time?

If they prove that they are actually a better citizen than many of the local ones?

Or does skin colour mean that acceptance will never be forthcoming?

A few misconceptions there....

(1) Lawful immigrants ARE rightful members of our society.

(2) MH is "white". Her ancestry is German/Austrian.

However, it's worth noting how many pro-immigration propagandists are themselves immigrants (possibly 2nd generation) and although they present the case for immigration in the abstract they are in fact arguing a self-serving cause without declaring a personal interest. I heard that repulsive Keith Vaz on the radio this morning going on about how wonderful immigrants are. :vomit:

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British families should be given council housing ahead of immigrants, a Labour minister has claimed.

Margaret Hodge risked a race row by warning that it was "unfair" when new arrivals jumped to the top of the queue - leaving no homes for families in Britain for generations.

She said a points system giving weight to length of residence, citizenship and National Insurance contributions would be a better way of allocating homes.

Mrs Hodge, who represents Barking in East London, a hive of British National Party activity, said this would help tackle alarm in the "poorest white communities" who felt angry and neglected by the Government.

Her comments were described as "hypocritical" as it was pointed out that Labour had presided over a massive rise in immigration at the same time as its "catastrophic" failure to build enough affordable homes.

Official figures show soaring immigration has pushed up the British population by nearly one and half million in a decade - although even these statistics have been criticised as unreliable.

Industry Minister Mrs Hodge demanded an urgent shake-up of the council and social housing system which prioritises the needs of migrant families.

She said: "A recently-arrived family with four or five children living in a damp and overcrowded privatelyrented flat with the children suffering from asthma will usually get priority over a family with less housing need who have lived in the area for three generations and are stuck at home with the grandparents.

"We should look at policies where the legitimate sense of entitlement felt by the indigenous family overrides the legitimate need demonstrated by the new migrants.

"A lot of black and Asian British people feel as strongly as some of my white families do - that there is an essential unfairness in the system.

"They feel they've grown up in the borough, they're entitled to a home, and that sense of entitlement is often overridden by a real need of new immigrant families who come in, perhaps locked into private accommodation, poor accommodation, overcrowded."

Hundreds of voters in Barking, one of Britain's most deprived communities, had turned to the BNP amid concerns over housing allocation, she said.

Mrs Hodge is the daughter of Jewish parents who fled Nazi Germany for Egypt before arriving in England in 1949, when she was five.

Last year she caused controversy by claiming that Labour's failure to deal with immigration and the lack of affordable housing had prompted traditional working-class white voters to desert to the BNP.

She won cautious support from Labour chairman and deputy leadership candidate Hazel Blears, who said: "You have got to look at allocations policies to show that they are fair. People in this country want to know the system actually works for them."

Liberal Democrat frontbencher Simon Hughes said: "The worst cause of racial strife and antagonism is when new social property is built and when people who appear to have no link with the community move into it, when other people who may be desperately needing to move, can't get a move."

But Keith Vaz, chairman of the Labour Party's Ethnic Minority Taskforce, said: "Many people will find what Margaret Hodge has said offensive. As a minister in a Government committed to equality she has the capacity to deal with any unfairness - if indeed it exists."

Damian Green, the Conservative immigration spokesman, said: "Margaret Hodge is admitting the long-term failure of this Government to control immigration.

"This is why Conservatives are calling for an explicit annual limit on the numbers coming here from outside the EU so that we can avoid exactly the sort of problems she is talking about."

I predict you'll hear more and more of this cr@p now from these poisonous NL muppets, there's an election coming up in two years and they know it's going to be tough. They'll talk a good talk and may even convince some of the thicker people but they have no intention whatsoever of making any REAL changes.

Just remember, over the last ten years how many times have we heard them promise to do this and do that? Then it fades away quietly into the background.

I wonder how much immigration really costs this country? I bet all the Goverment figures don't include things like hospital use, paying child allowance and other benefits (often when they've gone home), fraud on a massive scale (Tax Credits and foreign gangs), housing (temporary or otherwise), increased levels of crime and on and on...

These kinds of figures are difficult and complex to calculate. The Goverment make no real attempt because they know what they would show; what is plainly obvious to everybody. I remember the people in Dover complaining about Council Tax going up a specific percentage because of immigration. Why is that if they benefit us then?

I suspect that a fairly significant proportion of all our tax bills are now paying for immigration. This is why I now use every trick in the book to minimise my own tax bill.

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New Labour loves immigrants because they are voters in the bag. There's no more to it than that. All the talk of the benefits of diversity is hogwash - they just want the votes, they want to stay in power by selling out the natives. I count this as treason.

(And yes, I do support the death penalty.)

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When does someone stop being an immigrant and become accepted as a rightful member of our society to the BNP?

After some period of time?

If they prove that they are actually a better citizen than many of the local ones?

Or does skin colour mean that acceptance will never be forthcoming?

The early history of the British Isles was characterised by waves of invasion beginning around 600 BC and ending around 900 A.D. (if you discount the "Norman" invasion--Brits returning). First the Iberians, then the Celts followed by successive waves of Saxons and Danes. The difference in modern times is the invasion of cultures quite different to the indigenous. Saxons were not that much different that the Celts except, perhaps, for their greater barbarity. Likewise, the Nordic peoples were broadly similar to the Saxons with the exception of a higher percentage of blonde-haired louts. The Romans were somewhat of an anomaly and left very little trace of their conquest (roads being an exception) after most left by the 7th Century.

The indigenous population of Britain had become quite settled by the 12th Century and we remained invasion free as regards waves of foreign immigrants until relatively recent times. IMO, the problem that we will see increasingly is a clash of cultures among peoples that may not blend in as quickly as, for example, the Saxons did with the Nordic invaders.

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A few misconceptions there....

(1) Lawful immigrants ARE rightful members of our society.

(2) MH is "white". Her ancestry is German/Austrian.

However, it's worth noting how many pro-immigration propagandists are themselves immigrants (possibly 2nd generation) and although they present the case for immigration in the abstract they are in fact arguing a self-serving cause without declaring a personal interest. I heard that repulsive Keith Vaz on the radio this morning going on about how wonderful immigrants are. :vomit:

What are the BNP's views on the immigrant Sax-Coburg-Gotha family? They've taken far more land than anyone else.

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At first glimpse the premise seems correct - until you realise the problem is actually that if there really is a shortage of houses, these people shouldn't be let in in the first place.

IMHO immigration is a good thing, but recently it's been less of the slow trickle that can be absorbed and more of a... flood!

If we let someone in, then they should share all the same rights as us - why would we want to create second class citizens?

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When does someone stop being an immigrant and become accepted as a rightful member of our society to the BNP?

After some period of time?

If they prove that they are actually a better citizen than many of the local ones?

Or does skin colour mean that acceptance will never be forthcoming?

Is this the same Margret Hodge who, as leader of Islington council from 1982 to 1992, spectacularly failed to deal with a paedophile ring abusing children in her council’s care?

Frankly the children of Islington would have been better of if her claim for asylum had been rejected.

Why can't she be sent back to Egypt or Germany? Both are safe countries surely? Last time I checked Hodge was white btw.

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I heard that repulsive Keith Vaz on the radio this morning going on about how wonderful immigrants are. :vomit:

'repulsive' and 'vomit'

Why use the term 'repulsive' rather than some other term of opporbrium and why 'vomit' rather than some other response.

Its not because he happens to be asian is it. Or is this deeply angry and brutal language reserved for overweight people?

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However, it's worth noting how many pro-immigration propagandists are themselves immigrants (possibly 2nd generation) and although they present the case for immigration in the abstract they are in fact arguing a self-serving cause without declaring a personal interest.

I hope someone else can see the irony inherent in Margaret Hodge getting more press coverage for supporting a stronger stance on immigration than anyone else I can remember for a while whilst (much like Sarkozy) being a first generation immigrant Jew.

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I hope someone else can see the irony inherent in Margaret Hodge getting more press coverage for supporting a stronger stance on immigration than anyone else I can remember for a while whilst (much like Sarkozy) being a first generation immigrant Jew.

You could claim she's applying double standards, herself migrating to the UK and then blocking others...

But really she's scared stiff for her seat. She's trying to woo back BNP voters by talking their language. I think she's hoping everyone has forgotten she's an immigrant as well.

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'repulsive' and 'vomit'

Why use the term 'repulsive' rather than some other term of opporbrium and why 'vomit' rather than some other response.

Its not because he happens to be asian is it. Or is this deeply angry and brutal language reserved for overweight people?

Maybe he just finds Keith Vaz repulsive, as do I. Maybe it's got bugger all to do with his race. As for the use of the word 'vomit'. So what?

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You could claim she's applying double standards, herself migrating to the UK and then blocking others...

But really she's scared stiff for her seat. She's trying to woo back BNP voters by talking their language. I think she's hoping everyone has forgotten she's an immigrant as well.

she's very unlucky to be contesting one of the only places in the whole UK where the BNP has any support whatsoever

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And as for the "sssshhh she's an immigrant innit but only the BNP know these things..."

That fact was stated by Hodge herself and is in about the second para of pretty much every news article covering this issue.

For a proud nationalist you might want to pay more attention to being able to read your own language.

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she's very unlucky to be contesting one of the only places in the whole UK where the BNP has any support whatsoever

Can i just go off topic for one minute and ask a question?

Would i be right in saying that you are not from Hackney, but just live there? I am guessing you are a graduate from the home counties who moved to London for the 'edgy', 'urban', Sex in the City/Friends' live style?

You obviously do not know the east end before the yuppies and immigrants completely drove out the white working classes

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For those that argue that immigration is a good thing ask yourself this.

A nation of 60million people that are not producing enough children to succeed them?.

We should be questioning why people are not having children, maybe they cannot afford it, maybe they do not have adequate housing, maybe they are paying too much tax and have nothing left for themself.

Answer the real issue, immigration is nothing but a patch that if left on too long will infect the wound.

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she's very unlucky to be contesting one of the only places in the whole UK where the BNP has any support whatsoever

As you know I don't support the BNP. However, if they are making life difficult for one of the most incompetent New Labour muppets ever then it seems they have their uses.

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But Keith Vaz, chairman of the Labour Party's Ethnic Minority Taskforce, said: "Many people will find what Margaret Hodge has said offensive. As a minister in a Government committed to equality she has the capacity to deal with any unfairness - if indeed it exists."

But the system is unfair. I have never know anyone who is not an immigrant get council housing in central London but loads of immigrants do.

I think the Tories are a bit strange why have limited immigration from outside the EU but unlimited from inside the EU ?

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