sossij Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 http://business.guardian.co.uk/story/0,,2082749,00.html Nail. Hammer. Head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Fool & His Borrowed Money Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 As the Late Great Fred Dibnah once said: "We have become a nation of con-men selling double glazing(houses ) to each other" Nail, Head there too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OurDayWillCome Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 <Rant> You only had to watch this weeks apprentice for an insight into what's wrong with this country - the so called 'advertisers' and 'brand-builders' had not one ounce of creativity in them. The design industry is a prime example of an industry that has been hijacked by bull*****ers at the expense of true creatives. It is now on a sad and sorry decline thanks to cretins like 'apprentices' Katie and Trey. Anyone noticed how adverts are just based around an irritating song these days? Need I say anymore! </Rant> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xurbia Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 It's a sad indictment but it's very true. When many other countries have been building up their economic strength steadily for the future our government has squandered ours. The short term apparent gain in wealth is all just an illusion. Gordon Brown has ridiculed the continental Europeans and claimed to be prudent. If the economy falls to pieces because of a HPC, Britain will be the laughing stock of Europe I'm ashamed to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkG Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 Boy... that's not the kind of thing I expect to see in the Guardian when we have a Labour government! Brown and Blair must be in trouble if even the Guardian is after their blood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xurbia Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 Boy... that's not the kind of thing I expect to see in the Guardian when we have a Labour government!Brown and Blair must be in trouble if even the Guardian is after their blood. There's only so much crap even the most ardent supporter can take. What has frustrated me most is that I've seen all this happening in slow motion. Now, all of a sudden it's a big story that the UK is ****ed. This is a good summary: One way of looking at the British economy of today is to say that there are clusters of excellence around science, finance and the arts. Another way of looking at the economy is to say that the pharmaceutical industry will eventually migrate to the United States, where the money is; that big finance would come a cropper in the event of a bursting of the debt-driven speculative bubble; and that ******** Britain reaches its apotheosis in the lionisation of the cultural industries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PricedOutNative Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 We do appear to be over dependent on our financial services industry; what if it goes the same way as ship building and steel? One issue is the attitude in the UK to science and engineering, try pulling a girl at a party and mention you work in those industries and you lower your chances probably why so many British 'nerds' have foreign wives Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Lorne Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 There's only so much crap even the most ardent supporter can take.What has frustrated me most is that I've seen all this happening in slow motion. Now, all of a sudden it's a big story that the UK is ****ed. This is a good summary: One way of looking at the British economy of today is to say that there are clusters of excellence around science, finance and the arts. Another way of looking at the economy is to say that the pharmaceutical industry will eventually migrate to the United States, where the money is; that big finance would come a cropper in the event of a bursting of the debt-driven speculative bubble; and that ******** Britain reaches its apotheosis in the lionisation of the cultural industries. Agreed there are clusters of excellence. This includes the car industry...the ones without UK management..Honda, Toyota, Nissan and the Mini (BMW). Full marks to the UK workers in this industry as their quality and production matches and exceeds the best in the home countries of the organisatons. There is too much emphasis on academic education....look at who are taking the decisons....Blair, Brown both chancers and actors...and as for the other lot ..well they are living in the excesses of the English Victorian class system that should have died after WW1. I am surprised this type still exists, as I do not meet any on a day to day basis....they are not real! Are the Liberals going to regenerate this UK.....I don't think so. We need a rethink, a new model and a new party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mattsta1964 Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 http://business.guardian.co.uk/story/0,,2082749,00.htmlNail. Hammer. Head. Last article I read by Larry Elliot, he claimed the fasted growing industry in the UK is hairdressing! Yup! This guy definitely has his finger on the pulse! I'm going to order his book, Fantasy Island Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash4781 Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 Read the RICS' article on the News blog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mattsta1964 Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 Boy... that's not the kind of thing I expect to see in the Guardian when we have a Labour government!Brown and Blair must be in trouble if even the Guardian is after their blood. Larry Elliot seems to be cropping up in the Guardian quite a lot lately. Someone with editorial control at the Guardian seems to be very sceptical about Nulabour's miracle economy!! Excellent to read stuff like this in a UK mainstream newspaper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mattsta1964 Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 We do appear to be over dependent on our financial services industry; what if it goes the same way as ship building and steel?One issue is the attitude in the UK to science and engineering, try pulling a girl at a party and mention you work in those industries and you lower your chances probably why so many British 'nerds' have foreign wives I think some ridiculous percentatge of our economy, about 20%, is generated in the City of London That's a lot of spivs making alot of money out of a house of cards of debt They'll be the first people out of a job if it all goes pearshaped too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoomBoom Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 I'm glad that the bleedin obvious has finally hit the MSM. Britain is a low wage economy in which most people struggle to carve out a comfortable existence in a high-tax, low value, economy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bart of Darkness Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 But how long can the hot air last, ask Larry Elliott and Dan Atkinson Let's ask our resident hot air specialists Casual Observer and Europa. Well gentlemen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Lorne Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 I'm glad that the bleedin obvious has finally hit the MSM. Britain is a low wage economy in which most people struggle to carve out a comfortable existence in a high-tax, low value, economy. I would agree except for the 'low wage.' I feel and fear one of our problems is we cannot compete on the relatively high wage economy we run. Does anyone have figures for comparison as this is more of a gut feeling? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oracle Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 I would agree except for the 'low wage.' I feel and fear one of our problems is we cannot compete on the relatively high wage economy we run. Does anyone have figures for comparison as this is more of a gut feeling? the high wage is relative to the amount we have to spend on b0ll0cks like insurance and so on. we are being ripped off left right and centre,but can still afford a McDonalds a night(something which the likes of say,indonesia can get once a month) ......so do you want to die of obesity,or typhoid??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AuntJess Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 http://business.guardian.co.uk/story/0,,2082749,00.htmlNail. Hammer. Head. Yes it's nice to know that someone will stand up and admit that the king really hasn't got a suit of clothes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Lorne Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 the high wage is relative to the amount we have to spend on b0ll0cks like insurance and so on.we are being ripped off left right and centre,but can still afford a McDonalds a night(something which the likes of say,indonesia can get once a month) ......so do you want to die of obesity,or typhoid??? ..stick to the "uisge beatha" (water of life) .....and you will avoid both....(this is not an advert).... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HPC Convert Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 http://business.guardian.co.uk/story/0,,2082749,00.htmlNail. Hammer. Head. Yup and still the 4th largest economy on the planet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Lorne Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 Yup and still the 4th largest economy on the planet. Fuelled by internal debt and a balance of payments deficit which will tip us all into the sea soon unless we take action now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HPC Convert Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 Fuelled by internal debt and a balance of payments deficit which will tip us all into the sea soon unless we take action now! Fuelled by competitive labour markets and an efficiently regulated and very dynamic financial services sector. So we dont make widgets like germans - it saves laying off millions when the eastern europeans start making their own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ipodjunky Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 (edited) dynamic financial services sector Wow magic yawn, just what we want. Does not anyone want to do physical work? We are country of chumps who mostly piss around on excel spreadsheets handing monopoly money to each other. I prefer working on jet engines, industrial power supplies and useful things like that shame there is not much money in it these days I really used to enjoy it. Should of been a property developer, lawyer, or accountant these buggers have bled us useful people dry. Edited May 18, 2007 by Ipodjunky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Lorne Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 Fuelled by competitive labour markets and an efficiently regulated and very dynamic financial services sector. So we dont make widgets like germans - it saves laying off millions when the eastern europeans start making their own. Is that an ostrich head you have as your logo? Try http://www.cartoonstock.com/directory/o/ostritch.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoomBoom Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 (edited) Fuelled by competitive labour markets and an efficiently regulated and very dynamic financial services sector. So we dont make widgets like germans - it saves laying off millions when the eastern europeans start making their own. Who is going to create all this wealth for city paraistes to shuffle around? We can't survive off an internal boom fuelled by debt. Stick to trolling, because serious economic debate is clearly well out of your league. Edited May 18, 2007 by BoomBoom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ipodjunky Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 Yup and still the 4th largest economy on the planet. And what use is that to your average person in the street who isn't a banker? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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